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Is Valkyrie Profile a long game?
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Yes, this is definitely true. After you beat the game and watch the ending, you get the option of exploring a dungeon with some pretty difficult enemies and the toughest bosses in the game. It's very fun.
Also, there are 3 different endings in the game, one of which is impossible without a guide, so there's some replay value there.
EDIT: No reason why Square-Enix will not release this out here. DQVIII made it out here, why wouldn't VP? Plus, with Silmeria coming, Square wants as many people familiar with this franchise as they can get.
Also, there are 3 different endings in the game, one of which is impossible without a guide, so there's some replay value there.
EDIT: No reason why Square-Enix will not release this out here. DQVIII made it out here, why wouldn't VP? Plus, with Silmeria coming, Square wants as many people familiar with this franchise as they can get.
it's short enough unless you play without a walkthrough...thus not knowing which key events are needed to get ending A forcing you to start over to do it right a second time. Replay value!
Technically the game is only as long as you make it. You could just hit start and rest the whole time if you wanted but you simply would not be able to make it past Bloodvane.
Technically the game is only as long as you make it. You could just hit start and rest the whole time if you wanted but you simply would not be able to make it past Bloodvane.
I agree with this, nowadays I only play RPGs that are extremely good like SMT:N or DQVIII 60 hours on a decent game is waste of time. must not consume precious time like that on a decent game.Andy787 said:
I find myself playing less RPGs now and more action and fighting games.
and Valkyrie Profile is as long as you want it to be, you can clear it in 20 hours if you want but you'll miss lots of stuff while you can spent 50-60 hours in the game and get almost everything it really depends on how you want to play it.
In the interest of arguements, let me lay this down...
Would you prefer playing 1 amazing 60 hour experience, or 3 decent 20 hour games?
I don't see the problem, if a game's great and is fun the whole way through, then what's the issue?
Would you prefer playing 1 amazing 60 hour experience, or 3 decent 20 hour games?
I don't see the problem, if a game's great and is fun the whole way through, then what's the issue?
Yes, you're old. Geezer.
JackFrost2012
Banned
SnakeXs said:
3 decent 20 hour games, if I weren't watching 30 2 hour movies instead!
No game should be longer than 20 hours.
SnakeXs said:
No RPG is fun for 60 hours. I demand denser, more interesting games. My time is valuable, and I don't want to be doing busywork just to get to the "good parts."
Duderz said:Not 50 - 60 hours, unless you're doing Hard Mode + Optional Dungeons.
More like 30 - 40 hours in your first playthrough. Just wait for it to come out on PSP as well, cause tri-Ace is adding more stuff to it.
What is Tri-Ace adding to it, and where did you get the information. Last I heard Tri-Ace wasn't doing anything with it, and we weren't getting it.
JackFrost2012
Banned
Reilly said:
RE4 is less than 20 hours. MGS3 is less than 20 hours. DMC3 is less than 20 hours. Ninja Gaiden is less than 20 hours. Shadow of the Colossus is less than 20 hours.
I can watch a season of Battlestar Galactica or 24 in less than 20 hours and get a hell of a lot more narrative bang for my buck than in Shonen Jump Presents: Pendanto Densetsu.
If you finish an awesome 20 hour game, replay it or play something else. There are too many good games out there already! 60 hour games need to go the way of next gengaming: TO THE KERB.
20 hours x this gen = infinite gaming goodness.
citan said:
Duderz is more informed than you.
evilromero
Member
How about 1 awesome 10 hour game? I like that better.SnakeXs said:
JackFrost2012 said:
There's no gaming finish line. I have every SMT games still wrapped waiting to be played along with DMC 3 and a couple others. That's like saying books or movies should only be a certian length too. If you think a game is too long, well, no one is forcing you to play it and then you can go watch your lame sci-fi tv shows
Bebpo said:
Yep. I can't count how many hours I spent on Baldur's Gate 2, but when I was done, I did not feel that the time was wasted at all. Same with Xenogears, FF7, FFX, and various MMORPGs I have played.
Yes 20 hour games are good, but often, I don't mind a nice long epic game.
JackFrost2012
Banned
By the way, I don't REALLY think that games can never ever be over 20 hours, of course. Fast-and-hard rules like that are foolish. But I do think that most games are too long because developers feel a desire to artificially pad their games to add "value" to the consumer, thanks to this small but vocal minority of gamers who insist that longer=better.
I'll take a short, tight, excellent game over a long and padded one EVERY FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK.
Since this is not really about Valkyrie Profile anymore, I started a new thread about game length.
I'll take a short, tight, excellent game over a long and padded one EVERY FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK.
Since this is not really about Valkyrie Profile anymore, I started a new thread about game length.
Bebpo said:
Half of the 8-bit and 16-bit catalogue begs to differ. I firmly feel that the length of a game has little or nothing to do with its value - if it's good enough to play again, then excessive length might just be a detriment, because I'll know that I have to wade through 12 hours of dullness to experience the cool parts again. Valkyrie Profile is one of those games, at least for me.
Most of my favorite games are around 20 hours, so I'm inclined to believe that 20 hour games > 60 hour games.
Of course, if a game is as good as, say, Resident Evil 4, I wouldn't mind it being closer to 60 than 20.
citan, tri-Ace is adding new FMVs, a 16:9 mode, and some more story sequences to bridge together VP: Lenneth to VP: Silmeria. Check up on any preview of the game for more info.
Of course, if a game is as good as, say, Resident Evil 4, I wouldn't mind it being closer to 60 than 20.
citan, tri-Ace is adding new FMVs, a 16:9 mode, and some more story sequences to bridge together VP: Lenneth to VP: Silmeria. Check up on any preview of the game for more info.
Duderz said:Most of my favorite games are around 20 hours, so I'm inclined to believe that 20 hour games > 60 hour games.
Of course, if a game is as good as, say, Resident Evil 4, I wouldn't mind it being closer to 60 than 20.
citan, tri-Ace is adding new FMVs, a 16:9 mode, and some more story sequences to bridge together VP: Lenneth to VP: Silmeria. Check up on any preview of the game for more info.
Fricken sweet!!!! I can't wait, this might be the only reason for updating my frimware.
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Wait, the PSP VP game is just a fucking port? Damn what the shit.
As an adult pressed for a lack of time - I will have to agree with Jack, although 30 hours is my personal sweet spot. Too many games pad themselves out with meaningless subquests, fetch quests, long cinemas with lots of contrived dialogue (I don't mind shallow characters if the story moves pretty quick, but I hate when games spend lots of time attempting to characterize characters by increasing the amount of useless banter... Arc the Lad 3, here's looking at you!) and slow plot exposition. This seems to be more of a problem in the 32 bit era, lately I've been preferring to play older RPGs... not too much in the way of long cinemas, you can get in and out of battle quick, dungeons which are long but don't take hours to trek through, and a sense of accomplishment that you're moving through the game.
FF4 I finished on GBA in 12 hours (granted I knew that game like the back of my hand)... and yet it seems so much goes on in just that 12 hours - there's such rapid pacing... unlike a game like Baten Kaitos, where it takes about 30 hours to start to get to the interesting stuff.
Then again, there are some games, where it seems the time just flies by while playing. DQ8, I can't believe I've been playing for over 40 hours, for instance. Xenosaga, on the other hand, only took me 35 hours to beat, yet the game was so slow paced and painful it feels like it took over 100.
FF4 I finished on GBA in 12 hours (granted I knew that game like the back of my hand)... and yet it seems so much goes on in just that 12 hours - there's such rapid pacing... unlike a game like Baten Kaitos, where it takes about 30 hours to start to get to the interesting stuff.
Then again, there are some games, where it seems the time just flies by while playing. DQ8, I can't believe I've been playing for over 40 hours, for instance. Xenosaga, on the other hand, only took me 35 hours to beat, yet the game was so slow paced and painful it feels like it took over 100.
I've also been running out of time, just use hacks(gamesharks/etc) to get the no/less-random-encounter item/cheat + quick lvl up(unless it gives u instant lvl99 in which case u're better off with getting uber equipment instead and remaining low-lvl to get things a bit challenging) from the start. Go to an area see the mobs battle a few mobs, equip no-random -enc item or cheat(easy in emus), repeat. No longer do you've to thread to countless random encounters just to get through an area, speed up functions and instant save are also an excellent time saver when trudging through prior dungeons/places/overworld areas. I love my random encounters alot, unlike most people, but time is of the essence and I've a very long backlog of games I need to play, and if something's gotta go...JackFrost2012 said:
But you're wrong with the 20hr thing. When I beat RE2 like a dozen time I only wished for even more stuff. Same with OoT, and with Mario64, and especially with sunshine and windwaker(non filler fetch quest, mind you.), ffvii, fft, xenogears, chrono trigger, etc. Every time I play a kick@ss game I just want EVEN MORE of it, same with books/tv series/movies/anime/etc.
That's why I'm happy about Twilight and FFXII, with all the dev. time they're bound to be full to the brim with content
Hmm...I just played 2 hours of it and I have no clue what was going on other than moving forward and mashing buttons while watching some choppy paralax scrolling and lots of people dying...hmmm...going to have to read the instruction manual before playing some more.
Oh and I broke a few items by throwing them from great heights or into spike pits >_<
Oh and I broke a few items by throwing them from great heights or into spike pits >_<
Bebpo said:
Throwing treasure chests is such a pain in the #$*#*#&@ ass! Biggest frustration I have with this game. Just be very very careful whenever you pick up a treasure chest, make sure you place it down on the ground and don't accidentally press the button to chuck it.
Shouta said:
Shit, I wonder if I should redo the first dungeon now. Hmmmmmmmmm, are there any really important spells/skills I most likely missed? (found flare spell). I kept seperate saves at the start and end of the dungeon in case I wanted to do it over.
Also is there any point in fighting the enemies in the first dungeon if I do it over? Since your party is insanely overpowered and exp gains seem really tiny it seems faster to just freeze enemies and run past them and then level up later on in the next dungeon or two when you start getting good exp gains.