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ISS crew members with eat food that was grown in space for the first time

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GK86

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Edit- Live stream:

It would be nice if NASA had more funds for experiments and everything else, instead of being constantly broke as fuck. I was misled to believe that edible plants harvested in space was done way back since the days of MIR. Apparently those were only scientific/research experiments not safe for human consumption until now.

They're going to livestream the harvest/tasting event today (in ~40 minutes) along with the spacewalk that's happening now.

http://www.nasa.gov/nasatv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhORZ6Ep_jE

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it looks more normal without the red and blue LEDs

Fresh food grown in the microgravity environment of space officially is on the menu for the first time for NASA astronauts on the International Space Station. Expedition 44 crew members, including NASA's one-year astronaut Scott Kelly, are ready to sample the fruits of their labor after harvesting a crop of "Outredgeous" red romaine lettuce Monday, Aug. 10, from the Veggie plant growth system on the nation’s orbiting laboratory.

The astronauts will clean the leafy greens with citric acid-based, food safe sanitizing wipes before consuming them. They will eat half of the space bounty, setting aside the other half to be packaged and frozen on the station until it can be returned to Earth for scientific analysis.

NASA's plant experiment, called Veg-01, is being used to study the in-orbit function and performance of the plant growth facility and its rooting "pillows," which contain the seeds.


NASA is maturing Veggie technology aboard the space station to provide future pioneers with a sustainable food supplement – a critical part of NASA’s Journey to Mars. As NASA moves toward long-duration exploration missions farther into the solar system, Veggie will be a resource for crew food growth and consumption. It also could be used by astronauts for recreational gardening activities during deep space missions.

The first pillows were activated, watered and cared for by Expedition 39 flight engineer Steve Swanson in May 2014. After 33 days of growth, the plants were harvested and returned to Earth in October 2014. At NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, the plants underwent food safety analysis. The second Veg-01 plant pillows were activated by Kelly on July 8 and grew again for 33 days before being harvested. The seeds had been on the station for 15 months before being activated.

The Veggie system was developed by Orbital Technologies Corp. (ORBITEC) in Madison, Wisconsin, and tested at Kennedy before flight. Veggie, along with two sets of pillows containing the romaine seeds and one set of zinnias, was delivered to the station on the third cargo resupply mission by SpaceX in April 2014.

The collapsible and expandable Veggie unit features a flat panel light bank that includes red, blue and green LEDs for plant growth and crew observation. Using LED lights to grow plants was an idea that originated with NASA as far back as the late 1990s, according to Dr. Ray Wheeler, lead for Advanced Life Support activities in the Exploration Research and Technology Programs Office at Kennedy.

Wheeler worked with engineers and collaborators to help develop the Veggie unit from a Small Business Innovative Research project with ORBITEC. Dr. Gioia Massa is the NASA payload scientist for Veggie at Kennedy. Massa and others worked to get the flight unit developed and certified for use on the space station. The purple/pinkish hue surrounding the plants in Veggie is the result of a combination of the red and blue lights, which by design emit more light than the green LEDs. Green LEDS were added so the plants look like edible food rather than weird purple plants.

"Blue and red wavelengths are the minimum needed to get good plant growth," Wheeler said. "They are probably the most efficient in terms of electrical power conversion. The green LEDs help to enhance the human visual perception of the plants, but they don't put out as much light as the reds and blues."

Wheeler, Massa and Dr. Gary Stutte, all from Kennedy, previously investigated similar experiments to grow plants in the Habitat Demonstration Unit at NASA's desert test site near Flagstaff, Arizona, in 2010 and 2011. Wheeler said Veggie will help NASA learn more about growing plants in controlled environment agriculture settings. Similar settings include vertical agriculture, which refers to stacking up shelves of plants that are grown hydroponically and then using electric light sources like red and blue LEDs. This kind of system is popular in some Asian countries and beginning to grow in the U.S.

"There is evidence that supports fresh foods, such as tomatoes, blueberries and red lettuce are a good source of antioxidants. Having fresh food like these available in space could have a positive impact on people's moods and also could provide some protection against radiation in space," Wheeler said.

After the first crop of lettuce was returned from the space station, Massa began working with a team of flight doctors and NASA safety representatives to get approval for the crew to eat the produce.

"Microbiological food safety analysis looks very good on the first Veg-01 crop of romaine lettuce," Massa said.

Besides the nutritional benefits, could growing fresh produce in space also provide a psychological benefit? Alexandra Whitmire, a scientist at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston is involved in research to answer that question.

Whitmire is the Behavioral Health and Performance Research scientist for NASA's Human Research Program. Her team supports research related to reducing psychological risks on a Mars mission.

"The Veggie experiment is currently the only experiment we are supporting which involves evaluating the effects of plant life on humans in space," Whitmire said.

Her team is focused on crew behavioral conditions, performance reduction, and team communication and psychosocial adaption.

"Future spaceflight missions could involve four to six crew members living in a confined space for an extended period of time, with limited communication," Whitmire said. "We recognize it will be important to provide training that will be effective and equip the crew with adequate countermeasures during their mission."

The countermeasures could include things like meaningful work. Habitat-related modifications also could include plant life. Whitmire said Earth studies have shown plants are associated with well-being and optimal performance. Plants potentially could serve as a countermeasure for long-duration exploration missions.


Massa agrees: "Besides having the ability to grow and eat fresh food in space, there also may be a psychological benefit. The crew does get some fresh fruits or vegetables, such as carrots or apples, when a supply ship arrives at the space station. But the quantity is limited and must be consumed quickly."

Having something green and growing--a little piece of Earth--to take care of when living and working in an extreme and stressful environment could have tremendous value and impact.

"The farther and longer humans go away from Earth, the greater the need to be able to grow plants for food, atmosphere recycling and psychological benefits. I think that plant systems will become important components of any long-duration exploration scenario," Massa said.

The system also may have implications for improving growth and biomass production on Earth, thus benefiting the average citizen. Massa said many of the lessons NASA is learning with Veggie could be applied in urban plant factories and other agriculture settings where light is provided by electrical light and water conservation is practiced.

"We hope to increase the amount and type of crop in the future, and this will allow us to learn more about growing plants in microgravity," Massa said. "We have upcoming experiments that will look at the impacts of light quality on crop yield, nutrition and flavor, both on Earth and in space."

The team at Kennedy and Johnson hope that Veggie and space gardening will become a valued feature of life aboard the space station and in the future on Mars.
 

Krejlooc

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I wonder if they taste different, or have a different consistency or texture.

This is so unbelievably cool. I bet nobody will give a shit, though.
 

CTLance

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This will probably be hugely unpopular with any astronauts that happen to browse gaf and look forward to full-blown salads, but I don't think growing entire plants is a good use of resources.

I mean, nothing against a vat full of algae or something similar, wonderful stuff if they manage to get it to work, might even contribute a bit to the oxygen situation in between dispensing nutritious sludge - but a "garden" full of entire plants with parts that are inedible and substrate that's required for the roots and complex organs that need space to unfold and bits that need to be kept clean... eh. Sounds like a whole lot of work for little payoff.
 
This will probably be hugely unpopular with any astronauts that happen to browse gaf and look forward to full-blown salads, but I don't think growing entire plants is a good use of resources.

I mean, nothing against a vat full of algae or something similar, wonderful stuff if they manage to get it to work, might even contribute a bit to the oxygen situation in between dispensing nutritious sludge - but a "garden" full of entire plants with parts that are inedible and substrate that's required for the roots and complex organs that need space to unfold and bits that need to be kept clean... eh. Sounds like a whole lot of work for little payoff.
There's nothing like fresh veggies though. Could lift spirits.
 
This will probably be hugely unpopular with any astronauts that happen to browse gaf and look forward to full-blown salads, but I don't think growing entire plants is a good use of resources.

I mean, nothing against a vat full of algae or something similar, wonderful stuff if they manage to get it to work, might even contribute a bit to the oxygen situation in between dispensing nutritious sludge - but a "garden" full of entire plants with parts that are inedible and substrate that's required for the roots and complex organs that need space to unfold and bits that need to be kept clean... eh. Sounds like a whole lot of work for little payoff.

Part of the idea is that the work will keep the astronauts sane on long voyages. So those resources aren't being wasted. Although I'm sure the project is also working on ways to use as little space/electricity/water as possible.
 
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Transhuman

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The astronauts will clean the leafy greens with citric acid-based, food safe sanitizing wipes before consuming them.

Space Diarrhoea is real, and it is awful.
 

cajunator

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Where the hell are yall getting ISIS from? Its a title involving space food so it was obviously International Space Station.
 

GK86

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I wonder if they taste different, or have a different consistency or texture.

This is so unbelievably cool. I bet nobody will give a shit, though.

I'm actually very curious about this as well.

This will probably be hugely unpopular with any astronauts that happen to browse gaf and look forward to full-blown salads, but I don't think growing entire plants is a good use of resources.

I mean, nothing against a vat full of algae or something similar, wonderful stuff if they manage to get it to work, might even contribute a bit to the oxygen situation in between dispensing nutritious sludge - but a "garden" full of entire plants with parts that are inedible and substrate that's required for the roots and complex organs that need space to unfold and bits that need to be kept clean... eh. Sounds like a whole lot of work for little payoff.

The article gives a few reasons why this would be helpful. Most of which is the astronaut health. Only so much package food you could eat before you get tired/sick for it.
 

Krejlooc

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It's sad that people don't give a fuck about this. This is such a cool first step. These are the types of problems that need to be solved if we ever want to have a colony on the moon, or actually go to mars.
 

GK86

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It's sad that people don't give a fuck about this. This is such a cool first step. These are the types of problems that need to be solved if we ever want to have a colony on the moon, or actually go to mars.

Usually on par for space related threads.

Article states a batch came down to Earth. I wonder if anyone tired it. I'm assuming it would be safer to consume and test down here, instead of having the members eating it up there and having something go wrong.

Edit - I guess they have to see how the space bodies hold up with that type of food.
 

McNum

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I kind of want to see what a zero gravity carrot would look like. They can get some odd shapes on Earth, but in space, all bets are off. Could be amazing.
 

GK86

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How long until space colonization becomes possible?

I doubt it happens in our lifetimes. We still have to figure out how to send someone to Mars and back. Heck, we still have to know we can grow stuff while in space or on another planet.
 

Acorn

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I doubt it happens in our lifetimes. We still have to figure out how to send someone to Mars and back. Heck, we still have to know we can grow stuff while in space or on another planet.
I'd settle for a moon landing happening again in my lifetime.
 
How long until space colonization becomes possible?

I follow the space industry a lot and I think we'll see it in our lifetimes in terms of extensive LEO colonisation (Low Earth Orbit) beyond the ISS. Part of SpaceX's efforts is making transport/delivery vehicles to LEO from Earth viable financially and to exist in the commercial/private sector. This is the steps in getting LEO colonised. NASA has been planning for a Mars mission and the Curiosity rover (and upcoming rover/robot helicopter) is planned for 2020 to arrive I believe. These robots are there to also help pave the way for human arrival to understand Mars better. NASA definitely has plans for manned missions to Mars in 2030s+ but I don't think we'll have actual colonisation, I think it'll be the next "Moon landings" but on Mars. Big goal is getting astronauts there and back again, they have zero interest in one way trips. Again I think we'll see proper LEO colonisation, maybe even solve the engineering problem of artificial gravity structures in space (theoretically it's possible, just a mighty engineering problem to solve). Part of what ISS does is a lot of research on the effects of space on the human body, especially in zero g. They've been doing stuff like this for many years. Not a lot of people know about it or you hear a lot about but they are constantly doing research up there.

So yeah, I think we'll see LEO colonisation beyond ISS complexity and a human arrival on Mars in an event similar to the Moon landings, I don't think we'll see actual colonisation on Mars itself (other than a visit) in our life times.
 
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