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[kruis]

Summer 2024.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Beaten like a ginger step child.

 

[Evolved1]

Beaten like a ginger step child.

As a ginger step child, I’m actually not offended. I’ve accepted that we’re seen by others as creatures. Not really fair, but life isn’t.

Anyway, as for the topic. Still impressed they were able to salvage GoT.

 

[DragoonKain]

House of the Dragon was absurdly good. One of the best pleasant surprises in a while. After everyone being so down after how GOT ended, they managed to completely recapture the greatness and hype, which is not easy to do. I have no doubt season 2 is going to be great. Biggest reason? Unlike GOT, this doesn't have the problem of running out of source material!

 

[Putonahappyface]

As a ginger step child, I’m actually not offended. I’ve accepted that we’re seen by others as creatures. Not really fair, but life isn’t.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Only good show on TV right now. Dead ass.

 

[EviLore]

Best show on TV.

 

[kruis]

The difference in quality between House of the Dragon and the Rings of Power was absurd. The IMDB scores (8.5 vs 7.0) don't reflect that huge gap. IMDB (which is an Amazon subsidiary) deleted all of the negative user reviews in order to prop up the rating of RoP.

Can't wait for HotD season 2, never finished RoP.

 

[AJUMP23]

I like dragons. Especially that big beefy one.


how to train your dragon has really changed.

 

[Modi1984]

Buckle up, boys.

 

[LegendOfKage]

The difference in quality between House of the Dragon and the Rings of Power was absurd. The IMDB scores (8.5 vs 7.0) don't reflect that huge gap. IMDB (which is an Amazon subsidiary) deleted all of the negative user reviews in order to prop up the rating of RoP.

Can't wait for HotD season 2, never finished RoP.

This should be illegal. No, literally. Government intervention and the threat of prison illegal. This is why anti trust needs to actually be a thing, instead of the play pretend nonsense that it has become.

 

[FullMetalx117]

This and True Detective, HBO might be back next year

 

[newtypepilot]

S1 was actually good so I'm excited

 

[AJUMP23]

I hope when this series end it is Ned Stark waking up from a dream.

 

[SlimySnake]

I like how this dragon filled tv show looks less green screen than the mad max sequel.

 

[Banjo64]

Team Aemond and Vhagar

Season 1 was unexpectedly one of the best seasons of TV I’ve ever seen. On par with S1-4 of GoT easily, possibly even better to be honest.

I pray that Season 2 retains the same quality.

 

[Trilobit]

I'm not a superfan of Game of Thrones like some on the interwebs, but I was very entertained by the show and therefore also watched House of the Dragon. It's a different kind of show and was not as entertaining, but okay I guess.

One thing that really pulled me out of my suspense of disbelief was everytime this character showed up:

On my little knowledge of the lore I'd imagine that Valyrians should look like this:

Can someone explain how the HotD Valyrians have such a differing skin color? In the GoT show there are clearly different ethnicities depending on geographic locations, so In-Universe it doesn't make sense to me.

I don't mind having black characters, but it's as distracting as would be showing this in a Black Panther movie:

and calling them Wakandans.

Is there something I'm missing?

 

[What A Shame...]

I'm not a superfan of Game of Thrones like some on the interwebs, but I was very entertained by the show and therefore also watched House of the Dragon. It's a different kind of show and was not as entertaining, but okay I guess.

One thing that really pulled me out of my suspense of disbelief was everytime this character showed up:

On my little knowledge of the lore I'd imagine that Valyrians should look like this:

Can someone explain how the HotD Valyrians have such a differing skin color? In the GoT show there are clearly different ethnicities depending on geographic locations, so In-Universe it doesn't make sense to me.

I don't mind having black characters, but it's as distracting as would be showing this in a Black Panther movie:

and calling them Wakandans.

Is there something I'm missing?

Yeah, you're missing something. We never saw Velaryons in GoT so not sure why seeing them portrayed as black in HotD requires any suspension of disbelief.

The trailer has me super excited. Fingers crossed they have the budget and time to pull off some of the insane events coming up over the next few seasons.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Vert excited for S2. I think everyone was taken by surprise at the quality of the first season. Hope they can keep the momentum going.

GOT Season 7-8 need to be retconned and erased from memory.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I don't want it

 

[DeafTourette]

The difference in quality between House of the Dragon and the Rings of Power was absurd. The IMDB scores (8.5 vs 7.0) don't reflect that huge gap. IMDB (which is an Amazon subsidiary) deleted all of the negative user reviews in order to prop up the rating of RoP.

Can't wait for HotD season 2, never finished RoP.

This should be illegal. No, literally. Government intervention and the threat of prison illegal. This is why anti trust needs to actually be a thing, instead of the play pretend nonsense that it has become.

It's rated lower than House of the Dragon... If they really wanted to delete ALL of the negativity, wouldn't they have deleted all of the lower but good scores to BOOST what is, essentially, an average score at 7.0? Put it closer to House of the Dragon?

 

[Havoc2049]

Great trailer. Season 1 was great and I'm looking forward to Season 2.

 

[jason10mm]

Yeah, you're missing something. We never saw Velaryons in GoT so not sure why seeing them portrayed as black in HotD requires any suspension of disbelief.

The trailer has me super excited. Fingers crossed they have the budget and time to pull off some of the insane events coming up over the next few seasons.

No, he isn't missing ANYTHING. Velaryons are well described in the text AND are heavily inbred with Targaryens, hell, the King himself is 1/4 velaryon or whatever.

It's just diversity casting without any attempt to explain it on the show. Just accept it as it is even if it makes a major plot point in S1 totally ridiculous to the point of making the King blind AND dumb as it can't possibly be overlooked like in the text.

Sadly Corleys actor is actually really good and I like what he does with the character when he isnt being sabotaged to prop up the character of his wife, all they needed was a single line that he was actually the bastard of his velaryion father and a Summer Isle princess and that would be that.

Still would make the later bit silly but at least the lore would kinda work out

 

[Majormaxxx]

It's rated lower than House of the Dragon... If they really wanted to delete ALL of the negativity, wouldn't they have deleted all of the lower but good scores to BOOST what is, essentially, an average score at 7.0? Put it closer to House of the Dragon?

7 is not average on imdb. Anything above 6.9 is actually good and worth your time. 8 is fantastic. 9 is out of this world. 6 is average, below that is poor...

 

[DeafTourette]

7 is not average on imdb. Anything above 6.9 is actually good and worth your time. 8 is fantastic. 9 is out of this world. 6 is average, below that is poor...

Hmmm... Ok. Thanks!

 

[sankt-Antonio]

Bought the box set of season 1, could not finish the second episode. So uninspiring and boring. Has no swag at all.

 

[kruis]

7 is not average on imdb. Anything above 6.9 is actually good and worth your time. 8 is fantastic. 9 is out of this world. 6 is average, below that is poor...

One person giving a game an above average score (7) is not the same as 1000 people giving the game an individual score and the final score is an average of those 1000 votes.

 

[Majormaxxx]

One person giving a game an above average score (7) is not the same as 1000 people giving the game an individual score and the final score is an average of those 1000 votes.

Sure but here we're not talking about one person giving the show a 7. We're talking precisely about the final score of 7. And on imdb, a 7 is an excellent score - a good product worth your time.

 

[What A Shame...]

No, he isn't missing ANYTHING. Velaryons are well described in the text AND are heavily inbred with Targaryens, hell, the King himself is 1/4 velaryon or whatever.

It's just diversity casting without any attempt to explain it on the show. Just accept it as it is even if it makes a major plot point in S1 totally ridiculous to the point of making the King blind AND dumb as it can't possibly be overlooked like in the text.

Sadly Corleys actor is actually really good and I like what he does with the character when he isnt being sabotaged to prop up the character of his wife, all they needed was a single line that he was actually the bastard of his velaryion father and a Summer Isle princess and that would be that.

Still would make the later bit silly but at least the lore would kinda work out

I'm aware of how Velaryons are described in the books. Many families and characters have had changes to their appearances when comparing text-to-show. Not saying it isn't diversity casting - it absolutely is, but it doesn't break anything story-wise and at the end of the day, it's a weird thing to get hung up about.

I disagree it makes the S1 plot point ridiculous. I think it makes it even better. Viserys isn't fooled, he's in denial. The entire realm knows the truth after just a mere glimpse of the Velaryon children but Viserys refuses to accept it. The line directed at him from Aegon was perfect - "We know, Father. EVERYONE knows, just look at them". Viserys can't even respond to the comment because he knows it's true.

Not to go off-topic, but it reminds me of the Nicholas Barclay case of how far a parent will go to believe an obvious lie all for the sake of a little hope.

 

[dorkimoe]

rewatching this cuz my gf hasn’t seen it and forgot how good it is

 

[jason10mm]

I'm aware of how Velaryons are described in the books. Many families and characters have had changes to their appearances when comparing text-to-show. Not saying it isn't diversity casting - it absolutely is, but it doesn't break anything story-wise and at the end of the day, it's a weird thing to get hung up about.

I disagree it makes the S1 plot point ridiculous. I think it makes it even better. Viserys isn't fooled, he's in denial. The entire realm knows the truth after just a mere glimpse of the Velaryon children but Viserys refuses to accept it. The line directed at him from Aegon was perfect - "We know, Father. EVERYONE knows, just look at them". Viserys can't even respond to the comment because he knows it's true.

Not to go off-topic, but it reminds me of the Nicholas Barclay case of how far a parent will go to believe an obvious lie all for the sake of a little hope.

Eh, you can say it doesn't bother you or ruin immersion, but it is ABSOLUTELY a case of diversity casing trumping storytelling and source material, so just don't gaslight anyone who objects to it as if they are the problem. It's a bad choice, an unnecessary choice, and it should be called out as such. But the other strengths of the show outweigh the flaws.

 

[What A Shame...]

Eh, you can say it doesn't bother you or ruin immersion, but it is ABSOLUTELY a case of diversity casing trumping storytelling and source material, so just don't gaslight anyone who objects to it as if they are the problem. It's a bad choice, an unnecessary choice, and it should be called out as such. But the other strengths of the show outweigh the flaws.

I wasn't gaslighting. If continuity was broken by having a family change skin color within the same universe then I'd agree with you, but it didn't happen that way. The Velaryons were black from the first instance we saw them, and for that to be bothersome to a casual viewer who admittedly doesn't know the lore is strange to say the least.

 

[Nobody_Important]

I saw an Easter Egg breakdown and completely missed a hint at the most brutal fucking scene in the books and somehow I think HBO got it to the screen. I can only assume they tweaked it HEAVILY because even Game of Thrones or HBO doesn't cross lines like that these days.


If they HAVEN'T tweaked the scene somehow the reaction videos online to that episode are going to be some of the best reaction horror since the Red Wedding. It is fucking ROUGH.


EviLore did you catch it?

Spoiler: Book Spoilers don't click

Blood & Cheese

 

[What A Shame...]

I saw an Easter Egg breakdown and completely missed a hint at the most brutal fucking scene in the books and somehow I think HBO got it to the screen. I can only assume they tweaked it HEAVILY because even Game of Thrones or HBO doesn't cross lines like that these days.


If they HAVEN'T tweaked the scene somehow the reaction videos online to that episode are going to be some of the best reaction horror since the Red Wedding. It is fucking ROUGH.


EviLore did you catch it?

Spoiler: Book Spoilers don't click

Blood & Cheese

If we witness that play out exactly as it's described it'll have to be the most fucked up moment that's ever been in a show.

Spoiler: SPOILERS

My guess is we mostly see Helaena's reaction to what's happening.

 

[Nobody_Important]

If we witness that play out exactly as it's described it'll have to be the most fucked up moment that's ever been in a show.

Spoiler: SPOILERS

My guess is we mostly see Helaena's reaction to what's happening.

Spoiler: Book Spoilers

It has to be. There is no way they are going to do what happens in the books. The age of the children and the threats of rape alone put it WAY over the top for modern tv.


Actually forcing the mom to choose and then showing the beheading of a child? There ain't no way HBO has the balls to do that. Not even The Boys would be that blatantly over the line.

 

[BadBurger]

The community is getting restless

 

[DKehoe]

I saw an Easter Egg breakdown and completely missed a hint at the most brutal fucking scene in the books and somehow I think HBO got it to the screen. I can only assume they tweaked it HEAVILY because even Game of Thrones or HBO doesn't cross lines like that these days.


If they HAVEN'T tweaked the scene somehow the reaction videos online to that episode are going to be some of the best reaction horror since the Red Wedding. It is fucking ROUGH.


EviLore did you catch it?

Spoiler: Book Spoilers don't click

Blood & Cheese

I’m sure I read something a while back about them having cast one or both of those characters. It’s one of the signature moments of the story, showing just how brutal things have gotten, so I can’t imagine them skipping it.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Spoiler: Book Spoilers

It has to be. There is no way they are going to do what happens in the books. The age of the children and the threats of rape alone put it WAY over the top for modern tv.


Actually forcing the mom to choose and then showing the beheading of a child? There ain't no way HBO has the balls to do that. Not even The Boys would be that blatantly over the line.

I need them to go hard and do it. As soon as it happens all the normie fence sitters will jump STRAIGHT onto this show.

 

[Trilobit]

Yeah, you're missing something. We never saw Velaryons in GoT so not sure why seeing them portrayed as black in HotD requires any suspension of disbelief.

The trailer has me super excited. Fingers crossed they have the budget and time to pull off some of the insane events coming up over the next few seasons.

Sure, but are not Velaryons Valyrians like Targaryens? How come they were such a diverse people unless they were like USA? Are not the people and countries in that universe more inspired by medieval countries and times?

 

[What A Shame...]

I need them to go hard and do it. As soon as it happens all the normie fence sitters will jump STRAIGHT onto this show.

I've been rereading F&B and honestly, I forgot how brutal some of the later deaths are. IMO they put that one to shame.

Spoiler

Joffrey Velaryon being hacked apart by a mob is going to haunt me if they film it the way it's described.

Sure, but are not Velaryons Valyrians like Targaryens? How come they were such a diverse people unless they were like USA? Are not the people and countries in that universe more inspired by medieval countries and times?

Both families migrated from Valyria, not too far from Slaver's Bay where Daenerys spends most her time in Seasons 1-6.

 

[Represent.]

So this summer 2024

TLOU season 2 summer 2025

HBO has found their AMC Breaking Bad/Walking Dead duo

 

[SlimySnake]

So this summer 2024

TLOU season 2 summer 2025

HBO has found their AMC Breaking Bad/Walking Dead duo

? It was Breaking Bad and Mad men. Walking Dead isnt even close to those two GOAT.

And both shows came out every year. Not this bullshit 2-3 year gaps like they are movies or some shit. The whole point of tv is to get new seasons every season. Not ten seasons down the road. They should be shooting these things back to back like LOTR and Harry potter.

 

[Represent.]

? It was Breaking Bad and Mad men. Walking Dead isnt even close to those two GOAT.

And both shows came out every year. Not this bullshit 2-3 year gaps like they are movies or some shit. The whole point of tv is to get new seasons every season. Not ten seasons down the road. They should be shooting these things back to back like LOTR and Harry potter.

I meant more so in popularity, TWD and BB were AMC's most popular
And... TWD has a very special place in my heart

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I meant more so in popularity, TWD and BB were AMC's most popular
And... TWD has a very special place in my heart

GOT was much much more popular

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Sure, but are not Velaryons Valyrians like Targaryens? How come they were such a diverse people unless they were like USA? Are not the people and countries in that universe more inspired by medieval countries and times?

They weren't.
They changed them for the show.