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Jack Thompson hates ''The Warriors'' !
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sonycowboy
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Wait, it didn't help Killer 7, hmmmm.
Wait, it didn't help Killer 7, hmmmm.
SolidSnakex
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sonycowboy said:
The extra hype can't horrible games.
ToyMachine228
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Jack Thompson is definitely fizzling out. He's just all over the place now, and trying to get any game he sees that pushes the boundaries rated Adult Only. He's a falling star.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
This is a game based of a movie that's about 30+ years old. Look where society is now! We're in ruins because of the film's release, the game can only bring upon us the 2nd apocalypse! WE'RE DOOMED. Thank you Jack Thompson for warning us in advance, with out you, society would be in shambles...AGAIN!
HUGE shocker there.
That guy is such a jackass. He's like those ambulance chasers you see during afternoon television who have 30 seconds of affirmation about how great they are. Too bad we all know that if they were any good, they wouldn't need to advertise during soap operas and game shows.
Jack Thompson = Jim Sokolove
That guy is such a jackass. He's like those ambulance chasers you see during afternoon television who have 30 seconds of affirmation about how great they are. Too bad we all know that if they were any good, they wouldn't need to advertise during soap operas and game shows.
Jack Thompson = Jim Sokolove
ZombieSupaStar
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i read somewhere he recently started complaining about hillary clinton (calling her a benedict arnold or something) anyone know more about this?
SolidSnakex
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ZombieSupaStar said:
Probably because she was able to get Rockstar to change a rating to their game while his bitching to Rockstar has accomplished nothing but laughs and pictures being sent to him of them swimming in their money pit.
Oh yeah BTW.. f*ck Jack Thompson The Warriors movie is one of the greatest gift to this planet that GOD(names may vary due to religion) has bestowed upon us.... how dare Thompson sully it and the so far pretty good looking upcoming game by turning his countenance to it!
Mhh I don't know anything about the game "The Warriors" but, well, I'd like to understand something..
What exactly bothers you with him asking for an AO rating?
Quite honestly I don't think games like GTA, True Crimes, The getaway or Manhunt should be in the hands of younglings...
So if what the IGN guy says is right, then this game has even more violence (and possibly more gruesome) than even Manhunt (which, ironicaly, comes from TT)
On what basics are you saying he isn't right about the game receiving an AO rating? Weren't you all saying that it was stupid to give GTA an AO rating because of the hot coffe scene? That it deserved it more for its (arguably) extreme violence?
Here he states that the game should get an AO rating due to its violent content, what'S wrong with that?
Sure he may have his own political agenda (just like Liebermann), but fundamentaly, I believe he is right, that games with extreme violence SHOULD be AO rated... just like the most violent movies
What exactly bothers you with him asking for an AO rating?
Quite honestly I don't think games like GTA, True Crimes, The getaway or Manhunt should be in the hands of younglings...
So if what the IGN guy says is right, then this game has even more violence (and possibly more gruesome) than even Manhunt (which, ironicaly, comes from TT)
On what basics are you saying he isn't right about the game receiving an AO rating? Weren't you all saying that it was stupid to give GTA an AO rating because of the hot coffe scene? That it deserved it more for its (arguably) extreme violence?
Here he states that the game should get an AO rating due to its violent content, what'S wrong with that?
Sure he may have his own political agenda (just like Liebermann), but fundamentaly, I believe he is right, that games with extreme violence SHOULD be AO rated... just like the most violent movies
Chittagong
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Seriously, is there anyone who doesn't think that he picks up his paycheck from Rockstar's PR agency?
Fularu said:
I'm curious how is a game like The Warriors more extremely violent than a fighting game? And I'm curious about your younglings comment... I thought M rated games were 17 and up? An M rated videogame = R Rated movie.. both are 17 and up... so WTF.
EDIT:
Kaching that's a great interview... and this needs to be quoted here:
I actually thought the figure was mid to high 20's but I'll take their figure. Videogames long ago stopped being just for kids.
Jive Turkey
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What? Are you some fucking Jedi?Fularu said:
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Fularu said:
What was the last movie that got an NC-17 rating (aka the box office deathblow) strictly for its violent content? Exactly.
Its such bullshit. Politicians, PC morons and media whores who dont have a clue trying to hold the videogame industry to a different standard than other entertainment mediums. All this is really about is a young billion dollar industry paying the lobbying pipers in DC. Once they start playing ball gaming will truly be "mainstream".
SolidSnakex
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Matlock said:Funny thing...I emailed Jack about a short interview for an ESRB article I've been putting together...
Never replied, even in spite.
He apparently only gives interviews to people that have the same views as he does People who have a different view have tried to interview him and he either doesn't reply.
Someone should find out what HIS hobby's or favorite foods are and attack him on that.
'So you like hunting, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like beef, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like leather, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like your beer eh? Drunk?'.
This is such a fascist hypocrite pig.
'So you like hunting, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like beef, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like leather, eh? Murderer?', 'So you like your beer eh? Drunk?'.
This is such a fascist hypocrite pig.
DarienA said:
Ok I'll try to make myself clear, since english is not my first language (I'm french, but whatever)
When you go to the cinema, if the movie is rated so that you have to be at least 17 years old, then you have to prove it before entering..
What I would like to see is retail chain hving to ask for someone's age before selling the game, just like you have to do with cigarettes or alcohol...
I really, really don'T think that the vast majority of GTA players are guys in their 20ies and up, and I don't think that a game like GTA appeals more to the 25 years old guy than to the 13-15 young who "tries" to identify himself with what he sees in the game. I've always thought Rockstar to be pretty hypocritical (hum not sure that word exists but whatever) by targeting their games at the teenager while saying "It's for the mature market kids, you can'T play it" just like the tobaco industry is doing (saying smoking is for adults, not kids)
That'S a twisted way to market your games, playing on the "It's forbidden" ground.
I believe parents should be warned that the games they are buying are extremely violent, much more so than most movies you'll see...
I've found that Manhunt and GTA were much much more violent than what was shown in, for exemple "Irreversible" (with Vincent Cassel and Monica Belucci).
Should Irreversible be watched by anyone? Hell no so why would a game like GTA be playable by anyone? Because that'S a game? Because it's "entertainmenet"?
Some books are deemed dangerous for the unprepared mind (Mein Kampf comes immediately to mind for example), the same applies for games.
You can'T say that the level of violence in .. say, Street fighter 2 and Manhunt is the same, or you have some fucked up notions of what "graphical and pictural" violence is.
I believe that we should be responsible and not let our youngs play with those games, not before they can discern the reality from the fiction, rightness from wrongness (I hate the "good" and "bad" words), entertainment from education..
Nowadays, our teens are learning how to have sexual relations through porno movies.. should it be that way? hell no, does it teach them a proper way of having sexual relations? even less, does it teach them to respect their partner and to have safe sexual relations? not at all... Secual edication or violence education are in th same field, something should be done about them.
(For example, in France, we had sexual courses, teaching us to have protected seuxal acts and all, but even that wasn'T enough)
Well .. uh I don'T know if that makes sense whatsoever so you can start tearing me appart
the year 20XX
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Speevy said:
more likely
I think the videogame industry is held to a different standard by politicians than the movie industry for two reasons. One is a cultural thing in which most pols are just ignorant of gaming due to never having played any. And another is that I don't believe the game industry is as contributive to political campaigns and causes (on both sides of the aisle) as the movie industry and its stars are.
SolidSnakex
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Fularu said:
That does happen, but often times they just let anyone buy it same for with movies. There are ways around it though, with R rated movies all you have to do is have an adult with you and you're able to watch it.
Fularu said:
Warning 1: The name is Grand Theft Auto
Warning 2: M rating
Warning 3: Several descriptions of whats going to happen on the back of the box
Parents are warned, the problem is that some parents don't care. They just let their kids have whatever they want, so no matter what Rockstar or the ESRB does the kids can still get their hands on it. Rockstar has done their job of warning parents, when are parents going to start doing their jobs?
Fularu tu viens de toucher un point vraiment délicat.
Irreversible it's TONS more violent than GTA. Violence is not only in the message but also in it exposure. The scene where the guy is stabbed to death with a fire extenguisher is WAY MORE sadistic and explicit than anything you can achieve in GTA.
Beat up a guy with an extenguisher in GTA and you'll never get the dramatic angle + the blood and flesh, the skull cracking and the nose slowly entering down the brain of the poor guy as he's stabbed.
Irreversible can be stated EASILY adult only even if this was it's only scene of violence.
GTA is in no way as explicit, sadistic and wrong as this. No fucking way. Maybe on the PS4.
Irreversible it's TONS more violent than GTA. Violence is not only in the message but also in it exposure. The scene where the guy is stabbed to death with a fire extenguisher is WAY MORE sadistic and explicit than anything you can achieve in GTA.
Beat up a guy with an extenguisher in GTA and you'll never get the dramatic angle + the blood and flesh, the skull cracking and the nose slowly entering down the brain of the poor guy as he's stabbed.
Irreversible can be stated EASILY adult only even if this was it's only scene of violence.
GTA is in no way as explicit, sadistic and wrong as this. No fucking way. Maybe on the PS4.
TekunoRobby
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Thompson's offices are very close to where I live and his son goes to my highschool. I should go ask him for an interview one of these days. I doubt he'll even give me the time of day since I'm not press and talking with me won't give him any headlines.
Wyzdom said:
No, Irreversible is not about violence.. you really didn't get the picture.. and the guy being hammered with the fire extinguisher is definitely not a "poor guy"
Irreversible is about life, about those very short moments where averything goes wrong and the mind collapses
What's so shocking about Irreversible is that it does *not* put a glamour makup on the rape scene or on the vengeance scene, you are *forced* to sit through it, you are forced to witness mankind in its most depraved way...
From what I've played (and seen) of GTA, you can do just as much, with less graphical emphasis, but contrary to Irreversible where every person would find that sickening, you find it entertaining..
You wouldn't laugh to see a woman beaten to death is a baseball bat in a movie, yet it's funny in GTA, can you explain me fucking why?
What shocked people is not only the anal rape scene in Irreversible, it's always the gratuitous, brutal damaging of her features by the "poor guy", the way he beats her up..
From a single shot I've seen of the warriors (see my oh boy comment in the image thread) we're really not far from what was shown in the movie
So if Irreversible can get an AO rating and even get banned from theaters, why shouldn't it be the same for GTA, The Warriors or Manhunt?
Fularu said:
I didn't take the background into consideration, just the violence you can witness.
No matter how you put it, violence that is more explicit and that you have to sit through on top of that is something that merits a higher rating than a GAME with POTENTIAL violence that is less graphical.
If you want to take it into context with the background, GTA is a parody about stereotypes and it's well done. And they expect you to laugh. You have to understand the background for GTA just as for Irreversible.
Another thing is that since it's less graphic, even "cartoony" for some, it renders it even less alarming. Remember the Bugs Bunny show? This should be banned by your logic?
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