Japanese vs American game treatment
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Shogmaster
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gohepcat said:
Something about steamrollers in Japan I think.
Do The Mario
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Does anybody notice the increase of?
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Vote for your (insert what ever here) and
Hey isnt this a good game idea
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Vs
Vote for your (insert what ever here) and
Hey isnt this a good game idea
Threads???
Do The Mario
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SantaCruZer said:
So American companies use a steamroller to make boxart??
BugCatcher
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I think it's partly because the Japanese school system doesn't believe in janitors.
If I had to do this crap every day, starting from elementary school, I think I would grow up to be a neurotically tidy person, too:
If I had to do this crap every day, starting from elementary school, I think I would grow up to be a neurotically tidy person, too:
http://www.mie-c.ed.jp/hkawag/photo/cleaning1.htm
BugCatcher
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There you go!
Whenever I buy used stuff in Japan, it's absolutely pristine.
When I bought the new Rainbow Six 3 used, the back looked like it had been stomped with a pair of cleats. And it was obvious someone spilled Coke on the back of the manual. Oh, it obviously didn't work, either. I took it back
When I bought the new Rainbow Six 3 used, the back looked like it had been stomped with a pair of cleats. And it was obvious someone spilled Coke on the back of the manual. Oh, it obviously didn't work, either. I took it back
Sho Nuff said:Whenever I buy used stuff in Japan, it's absolutely pristine.
When I bought the new Rainbow Six 3 used, the back looked like it had been stomped with a pair of cleats. And it was obvious someone spilled Coke on the back of the manual. Oh, it obviously didn't work, either. I took it back
Maybe the difference is that japanese stores won't buy back games that are in the condition you described, so thats why you never see them in stores for sale as used.
Do The Mario
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SantaCruZer said:
I think it's bed time
BugCatcher
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Dunno about that. When I was in Tokyo, some of the used game shops in Aki had stickers on the shrink wrap indicating the grade of both the game and the manual. They went A/B/C, and (IIRC) corresponded to Like New/Some Scratches/Works. I'd check, but all the used games I have that are still in shrink wrap are from Hard-Off. So someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that if the game is still playable, there are places that will buy it. Even so, I've never ended up with anything less than a perfect disc at used game stores, sticker or no. Japan and the US are really worlds apart in this regard.bitwise said:
CrimsonSkies
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There seems to be no limit for the Japanese fandom sometimes on this board.
Do The Mario
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Fuck Those kids have a great art style
SatelliteOfLove
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BugCatcher said:
Edited for veracity.
Still, I (an American), have all of my games in mint or near-mint condition, except for FFVII, (which I am convinced was burned onto shitty quality disks).
evilromero
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Japan's second-hand video game market clearly crushes the US' by a long stretch. I've never seen such a wealth and selection of quality used games. Perfect boxes, manuals, carts, cds, etc. There's no comparisons. US gamers treat their merchandise like shit.
It has to do with used places offering more money for pristine stuff.
In america game stores will take anything for the same price.
To put things in perspective...
On any given day at gamestop ill have to send atleast 5 or 6 games off to refurbish on my shift alone, and another 5 or 6 i think are really meh and want to refurbish but give it to em anyway. On average, people dont take care of their games in america.
I dont know how it goes in japan, but i did buy a "LIKE NEW" (and i stress that) copy of final fantasy 6 (in its box with ALL the original insert stuff) in a book off that was sitting next to a whole bunch of other games that were just like it. I mean if you guys saw how perfect this copy was you'd probably be in shock. It was like the guy had never opened it.
In america game stores will take anything for the same price.
To put things in perspective...
On any given day at gamestop ill have to send atleast 5 or 6 games off to refurbish on my shift alone, and another 5 or 6 i think are really meh and want to refurbish but give it to em anyway. On average, people dont take care of their games in america.
I dont know how it goes in japan, but i did buy a "LIKE NEW" (and i stress that) copy of final fantasy 6 (in its box with ALL the original insert stuff) in a book off that was sitting next to a whole bunch of other games that were just like it. I mean if you guys saw how perfect this copy was you'd probably be in shock. It was like the guy had never opened it.
Do The Mario
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Dyslexic conjoined twins also treat there games badly
BugCatcher
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Yeah, but they aren't sitting in a used game shop. I make sure all my games are immaculate, but I have no intention of selling them.SatelliteOfLove said:
I think another factor to consider is that space is more of a premium in Japan. If I lived in an apartment the size of a prison cell, I might be inclined to sell my old games to make room for other things, rather than just putting them in a spare room or the basement like we'd do here. So you may not be able to tell whether Japanese or Americans typically take better care of their games based only on what you see at used game shops. You can only say that Americans who sell their games generally are not as careful with them as Japanese who sell their games.
There's people who dont take care of their stuff in both countries, and there's many equivalent of Acclaim and THQ in Japan too. You guys need to check online import videogame shops to see all the incredible garbage that never gets brought over here.
But then again I'm arguing with people who watches a lot of animes, SO they are japan experts and stuff.
But then again I'm arguing with people who watches a lot of animes, SO they are japan experts and stuff.
evilromero
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What in the samhill fuck are you talking about? The used videogame market in Japan simply crushes that of its American bitch daughter, no ifs, ands or buts. And Acclaim and THQ? Now what the fuck are we talking about?Naked Shuriken said:
BugCatcher
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If it wasn't for the bolded text, I'd think you were posting in the wrong thread. What the heck does any of that have to do with the brutalized condition of used video games?Naked Shuriken said:
The Faceless Master
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i dunno about japan, but i dont buy used games in the USA if they come on a disk...
carts i'll do, but disks are a no-no...
i can't speak for the country, but most of the people i know just throw down game disks anywhere thats comfortable, on top of tv's, coffee tables, kitchen counters, wherever...
i'd say at least 3/4 of the people i know who are gamers are like that...
i also know people who are even neater than me, having their games in dvd racks all lined up in perfect order and dusted, but that's the minority...
oh yeah... how about them damn europeans? someone dish the dirt!
carts i'll do, but disks are a no-no...
i can't speak for the country, but most of the people i know just throw down game disks anywhere thats comfortable, on top of tv's, coffee tables, kitchen counters, wherever...
i'd say at least 3/4 of the people i know who are gamers are like that...
i also know people who are even neater than me, having their games in dvd racks all lined up in perfect order and dusted, but that's the minority...
oh yeah... how about them damn europeans? someone dish the dirt!
BugCatcher said:
Um, seems to me he was piggybacking on Crimson's point about the (apparently) rampant worshipping of Japanese culture and how some people act like their feces smell like roses.
At any rate, I hate buying used games so i've rarely done it, but all 3 times that I can remember, i've lucked out. I bought a used copy of Soul Blade for PS(it was the only copy available and the game had JUST came out, so not a big risk), same for REmake for Gamecube(pristine, just released), and I bought a refurbished PS, which worked great. But I can say some of my friends take terrible care of their games(and optical media in general), cramming 2-3 disk into a single jewel case, laying them about data-side down, etc.
BugCatcher
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You should lay them data side down. The plastic underneath is deliberatly thicker than the label side (something like 10 times as thick) presicely because that's the side that gets scratched up more (and thus why they can be resurfaced). It's much easier to damage the data on a disc by lying it label side down.
Warm Machine
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It is because the people who actually care for and collect games in North America actually keep them and don't go the slovenly trade in route.
Marty Chinn
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I have to agree with the whole Japanese used game market is better than the US and that they take better care of stuff. I will never ever buy a used game in the US. I don't care if its cartridge or CD. I will buy it in Japan without even thinking twice. It's amazing how great the condition of not only games are but systems as well. You can buy a CD based game from a system thats two generations old, open it up and it would be as if you are the first time owner. It will have the converslip quite often and not a single scratch on the disc. If you've never been to Japan and shopped for used games, you simply don't have any perspective on how amazing the market is there as well as how well the Japanese take care of their stuff.
There's actually a Gamespy article about this very issue.
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Actually I would like to know how to keep cardboard boxes in good shape, period. It seems like the corners get rounded after a while no matter what you do.
The Shadow
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BugCatcher said:
It looks like they're going to preform surgery on the noodles or something.
CrimsonSkies said:
Yup. People have a real nack of finding any obscure thing to compare and then praise the Japanese way.
CrimsonSkies said:
And then you have the people (usually Xbox fanboys) who storm into any thread where the Japanese are mentioned in a positive light, American flags waving and calliopes playing the Star-Spangled Banner. They make a point of telling everyone who'll listen that Japanese designers are 'irrelevant' and hail Western developers as the new kings of the videogame world, dismiss Japanese art as 'fruity anime crap', and ridicule Japanese devs for concentrating on 'weird' game concepts instead of 'cool stuff that normal people want to play' (like Tom Clancy games).
In the end, I think that the two extremes balance each other out.
SonicMegaDrive
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