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Jeff Grubb walks back his Perfect Dark looking "rough" comments
- Thread starter Topher
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Represent.
Banned
This game being potentially great is the only reason why im holding on to my X. looking forward to seeing it
ill know within the first 10 seconds of gameplay whether its for me or not.
ill know within the first 10 seconds of gameplay whether its for me or not.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Because yes he's still reliable.
poodaddy
Member
He gets things wrong fairly often though, I dunno. Seems flip floppy to me, maybe I just don't care enough about development drama and hype cycles to get excited about rumors that may or may not be bullshit anymore.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
No he doesn't lol
rm082e
Member
As someone who can deliver information we're not supposed to have yet, he seems to have more reliable sources than random people who are clearly guessing and trying to back it up with lies. I don't expect anyone who uses anonymous sources to be right more than 60% of the time, and I always take what they say with a big chunk of salt. Sometimes these things are just interesting to hear.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
He pretty firmly seems to have walked this one back because he got it wrong.
He gets plenty of things right but his hit rate is certainly not 100.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
He's not even walking it back. He's still saying "yeah it's rough, but that's game development"
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Topher
Identifies as young
This isn't the first time he was walked back comments that were refuted elsewhere. He did the same thing when Aaron Greenberg disputed his claim that Hi Fi Rush didn't do as well as MS had hoped. So yeah.....he gets a lot of things right, but he also has a tendency to try and cover his ass.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
If you think his latest Perfect Dark comments mirror this, then I don't know what to tell you.
He's clearly speaking on two different sides of his mouth. It's 100% a walk back.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
But he ended up being right about Hifi Rush, as well
Sounds more like he just succumbs to pressure.
Topher
Identifies as young
That's definitely it. He needs to stick to his guns. You are right that he usually has good info.
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Mobilemofo
Member
He should be pulped and turned into a human X, and sent to landfill. The big dildo.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Kinda pointless with how MS works.
They could release it 6 months earlier than fit, only to fix later.
Only way a game is truly in trouble at MS if they cancel it.
They could release it 6 months earlier than fit, only to fix later.
Only way a game is truly in trouble at MS if they cancel it.
simpatico
Member
Name is familiar, but I've never seen the guy until this thread. This Grubb fella is in desperate need of cardio and a meal plan. Did a little searching and I captured this image.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
schaft0620
Member
Sounds like Phil DMed him or somebody at Xbox and said it was going to be at the showcase.
The reality is though, it doesn't take someone working on the game to know there are problems.
Timeline
So next month they will show some clip of the game that is just an "idea of the game" like they did with Fable last year. I need to see gameplay of both Perfect Dark and Fable before I believe anything. The gameplay needs to be longer than 3 minutes, it needs to have a complete UI. This is for both games.
This is the second time leadership at Xbox has tried to discredit Jeff and Jeff just backs down because he is only reporting what is in front of us.
The reality is though, it doesn't take someone working on the game to know there are problems.
Timeline
- Brand new AAAAAA studio founded in 2018
- 2020 Pandemic
- Area impacted for 4 months in 2020 due to wildfires on top of the pandemic
- New remote life structure
- In 2020, Phil says Xbox is seeing a 70% decrease in productivity due to the pandemic.
- Top staff leave AAAAA studio to go work at Sony, the game they left to work on is now out.
- Square Enix starts working on the game as a contract studio
- External Dev team sold off to Embracer
- Embracer has their own struggles
- 6 years later between 80 and 150 people are working at this AAAAA developer Microsoft is trying to build along with X people at Embracer
- Microsoft goes through a re-org shifts entire focus to AI
- Today - "Game is not in trouble"
So next month they will show some clip of the game that is just an "idea of the game" like they did with Fable last year. I need to see gameplay of both Perfect Dark and Fable before I believe anything. The gameplay needs to be longer than 3 minutes, it needs to have a complete UI. This is for both games.
This is the second time leadership at Xbox has tried to discredit Jeff and Jeff just backs down because he is only reporting what is in front of us.
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After reading this I can finally make the changes I need to turn my life around.Name is familiar, but I've never seen the guy until this thread. This Grubb fella is in desperate need of cardio and a meal plan. Did a little searching and I captured this image.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
clarky
Gold Member
Not saying everything is rosy but half this shit happened to most of the industry.
The time line is about right so far for a sizable project from a new studio btw. Even Horizion ZD took 7 years from pitch to the shelf from an established studio with their own engine that they knew inside out. That's without a pandemic chucked in.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The guy for sure needs to take better care of his heart, you only get oneName is familiar, but I've never seen the guy until this thread. This Grubb fella is in desperate need of cardio and a meal plan. Did a little searching and I captured this image.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
Radical_3d
Member
Perfect Schrödinger. It’s rough or nice depending on the observer.
nial
Member
It may not be in development hell, but...
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Gamers also seem to be the last to know that game development now takes 6 - 8 years for a new, built from the ground up game. Development is only lengthening as time passes. Some of ya'll are still living in the "If it's not out in 4 years it's in dev hell" mentality from 2002.
Gambit2483
Member
And yet many of those games still release incredibly flawed or mediocre/bad e.g.
Cyberpunk 2077
Suicide Squad
Starfield
Redfall
Hellblade 2?
If a game is going to take 6-8 years to make it needs to be at least above average quality at launch.
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AltogetherAndrews
Banned
It’s not even a particularily enticing IP. Or am I missing some strong draw, other than it once having had the benefit of being a competent game in the infancy stage of console fps?
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nush
Member
Hope for a great exclusive. That's all.
AltogetherAndrews
Banned
I get that, I will just never understand why they persist with this IP. They gave it a shot for the 360, and it was a stinker. With troubled development, no less.
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ChorizoPicozo
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
... he is not really walking back anything
feynoob
Banned
ChorizoPicozo
Member
mi no entender pipí popo
TexMex
Member
Name is familiar, but I've never seen the guy until this thread. This Grubb fella is in desperate need of cardio and a meal plan. Did a little searching and I captured this image.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
This can’t be a real post
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Following Nate the Hate's comments that he heard Perfect Dark was looking good, Grubb says he has now talked to more people and many of them agree with that.
There needs to be a facepalm and shrug NeoGAF reaction/like.
feynoob
Banned
Senior, me no habla Espanol.
midnightAI
Banned
I think part of the issue is that sometimes he doesn't have a source and makes educated guesses that prove to be wrong. When he has sources he can be relatively reliable.
Basically, he isn't very good at guessing.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Does it even matter if it’s rough or not? Even the games that they don’t think are rough have been mostly disappointing.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Kssio_Aug
Member
Name is familiar, but I've never seen the guy until this thread. This Grubb fella is in desperate need of cardio and a meal plan. Did a little searching and I captured this image.
I want you guys to focus on the right arm. If you're overweight, and your arm looks like a pale, amorphous blob, you need a lifestyle change and the self awareness to not be seen in a tank top. Just 20 minutes an evening doing push ups and sit ups makes a big difference. This Jeff fella seems to have several dream jobs, but he's really shortening what could be a great life with dietary and sedentary choices. Recording what will be a publicly available call with your beard looking like that? Cringe. Just a few minutes of grooming goes a long way! Could be the hairs have been soaked in so many seed oils and phthalates that it's impossible to make them look good. Hard to say. Gamers, if you look like this, you don't have to get too down on yourself, but make the change. You'll never regret it.
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Negotiator101
Member
Yet he's not here? so he's actually not reliable
Do you even know what reliable means? 
Negotiator101
Member
Here we go, conspiracy number 1.