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[Banjo64]

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I thought it would be good to have a none political thread where we can discuss the names in the previously sealed court documents, and any interesting testimony that has been released.

So far I have heard Stephen Hawking (allegedly participated in a sex party), Prince Andrew (allegedly participated in underage orgy) and Bill Clinton (he likes them young - Epstein told a trafficked girl).

Apparently there’s hundreds of pages to comb through so I’m expecting more drops throughout the day.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Bojji]

Nothing surprising here, I doubt anything will happen to elites that were "playing" with underage boys and girls.

i think most of us are in "oh my sweet summer child" mode when it comes to this stuff, it's hard to believe that elites operate like this but it's most likely true:

 

[SimTourist]

Bill Clinton kid redeemed. He tried to warn yall.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Ya know women in their 30s are still hot and know what they’re doing, just saying

 

[kruis]

Alan Dershowitz is really friendly with pedophiles for some reason ...

NYT: Dershowitz was part of clemency effort for pedophile tied to Mideast talks

Report says US official discouraged idea of commuting George Nader's 10-year sentence for child sex trafficking, while then-Israeli envoy Dermer was 'noncommittal'

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Alan Dershowitz is really friendly with pedophiles for some reason ...

NYT: Dershowitz was part of clemency effort for pedophile tied to Mideast talks

Report says US official discouraged idea of commuting George Nader's 10-year sentence for child sex trafficking, while then-Israeli envoy Dermer was 'noncommittal'

www.timesofisrael.com

This guy is like the nonce of nonces, the least surprising name on the list. Well, ok Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton we all knew that too…

 

[BadHaircut]

Apparently Trump named in the documents too? But not accused of anything, just mention of him as an associate. Not sure, haven't seen the documents myself

Clinton, Andrew and Dershowitz are like the least surprising names to see on something like this.

 

[BlackTron]

Dude even Stephen Hawking was there?

When real life IS the Family Guy parody of itself

 

[winjer]

And how many of these will go to prison for this?
I suspect none of them.

 

[3liteDragon]

Apparently Trump named in the documents too? But not accused of anything, just mention of him as an associate. Not sure, haven't seen the documents myself

Clinton, Andrew and Dershowitz are like the least surprising names to see on something like this.

 

[BlackTron]

Ya know women in their 30s are still hot and know what they’re doing, just saying

Monica Lewinsky didn't get left in the cold

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Execute all of them. Disgusting shitheads.

 

[Shifty1897]

Not my man Stephen Hawking

 

[Chuck Berry]

Apparently Trump named in the documents too? But not accused of anything, just mention of him as an associate. Not sure, haven't seen the documents

If Trump was seriously involved we would’ve known about it for years already.

 

[Xdrive05]

Stephen Hawking participating in an underage orgy was not on my bingo card.

EDIT:

So Epstein was almost certainly working for (or with the backing of) the Mossad, and his whole thing was probably just an elaborate honeytrap to blackmail the powerful and influential, right? Eric Weinstein, whatever you think about him, comes off to me as a sincere, if autistic, personality. He did a podcast (video here) talking about an encounter he had with Jeffrey Epstein years ago. I always found Weinstein's account to be convincing and accurate, and helps color what was likely going on.

 

[Wildebeest]

So Epstein was almost certainly working for (or with the backing of) the Mossad, and his whole thing was probably just an elaborate honeytrap to blackmail the powerful and influential, right? Eric Weinstein, whatever you think about him, comes off to me as a sincere, if autistic, personality. He did a podcast (video here) talking about an encounter he had with Jeffrey Epstein years ago. I always found Weinstein's account to be convincing and accurate, and helps color what was likely going on.

With espionage, who knows what is going on. Double, triple, quadruple agent, secretly working for the McDonalds board of directors and the Aluminum Bavarati. Who knows?

 

[tamago84]

Some people are horny no matter what

 

[STARSBarry]

If Trump was seriously involved we would’ve known about it for years already.

Did you know about Stephen Hawking's? It's one of those things where it's nice to claim in hindsight but really we didn't know what we would find until today.

 

[NeoGiffer]

So far I have heard Stephen Hawking (allegedly participated in a sex party),

Spoiler: NSFW and probably your sanity

 

[mitch1971]

Nothing surprising here, I doubt anything will happen to elites that were "playing" with underage boys and girls.

i think most of us are in "oh my sweet summer child" mode when it comes to this stuff, it's hard to believe that elites operate like this but it's most likely true:

I watched that video a few weeks ago. The part about her being put on an 'expendable list' for anyone whos into killing kids for the sexual pleasure was unreal.

 

[GHG]

Apparently Trump named in the documents too? But not accused of anything, just mention of him as an associate. Not sure, haven't seen the documents myself

Clinton, Andrew and Dershowitz are like the least surprising names to see on something like this.

Regarding Trump:




Based on the information so far, he's coming out of this as one of the good guys.

Meanwhile Hilary was surrounded by pests but claims to have never known anything.

 

[Bojji]

I watched that video a few weeks ago. The part about her being put on an 'expendable list' for anyone whos into killing kids for the sexual pleasure was unreal.

I'm not 100% sure she is telling the truth but stuff like this is happening for sure. With money you can fulfill all your darkest desires and get away with it. Parents "renting" their kids and knowing what will happen to them (including torture and death)...

I have seen/read some fucked up shit in anime/manga/movies/books/tv shows etc. but reality is sometimes far worse than what those authors imagined.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

I mean...Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew etc? Sounds about right.

 

[Interfectum]

There haven't been many unexpected developments so far, except for a noticeable lack of negative content about Trump.

 

[BennyBlanco]

There’s no statute of limitations on this disgusting shit, right? Will be interesting to see if the Clintons get a pass

 

[dave_d]

There haven't been many unexpected developments so far, except for a noticeable lack of negative content about Trump.

Don't worry, I know with my local NPR station they'll report that Trump was mentioned and go on a tirade about how horrible of a person he is and never mention the part that the docs say he wasn't involved and kicked out Epstein. (It's all how you spin it.)

 

[Ogbert]

Apparently Trump named in the documents too? But not accused of anything, just mention of him as an associate. Not sure, haven't seen the documents myself

Clinton, Andrew and Dershowitz are like the least surprising names to see on something like this.

The only reference is Epstein wanting to go to one of his casinos.

It’s a lame attempt at guilt by association. Although it’s not even association, rather by reference.

That said, looks like Clinton and Prince Andrew are proper nonces.

 

[CrankyJay™]

The Clintons can't murder their way out of this one.

 

[Ogbert]

There’s no statute of limitations on this disgusting shit, right? Will be interesting to see if the Clintons get a pass

It will be very interesting to see how the legacy media play this. Any semblance of impartial coverage would, as you suggest, involve destroying one of the grand Democratic families.

I suspect they will ignore it.

There’s nothing on Trump and that’s all they care about.

 

[kruis]

Damn, there's an endless stream of Stephen Hawkings jokes on Twtter it seems ...

 

[BadHaircut]

Regarding Trump:




Based on the information so far, he's coming out of this as one of the good guys.

Meanwhile Hilary was surrounded by pests but claims to have never known anything.

I want to be clear. I never mentioned Hilary so I don't know where that came from. And I noted above that several people in these documents, including Clinton, were not a surprise.

As for Trump, I wasn't suggesting that he was participating in illegal activity. However I'm not sure banning him for something unrelated months before his charges makes anyone a good guy. Particularly when Trump has dropped shit like "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy...
He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

I don't mean to target Trump specifically, I was just seeing lots of names hitting Twitter, some obvious, some less obvious, and some members in this thread cleared up the context with quotes from the documents. But I do think having a long term association with Epstein is unlikely to look good no matter how it plays out. It seems like the guy was a known quantity to the rich and elite. Obviously associating with him is not the same as committing the crimes that many are deservedly accused of, but it's not a good look either.

 

[AJUMP23]

The Hyatt hotel heir is on the list. He received stuff.

All of these people need to be arrested and put in jail. Just disgusting people.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Trump’s very likely the only guy on that list who a court has ruled committed sexual assault, and thus was guilty of defamation by calling his accuser a liar, so ya know…let’s maybe not lionize the “grab them by the pussy” guy

 

[Putonahappyface]

Michael Jackson.

 

[GHG]

I want to be clear. I never mentioned Hilary so I don't know where that came from. And I noted above that several people in these documents, including Clinton, were not a surprise.

As for Trump, I wasn't suggesting that he was participating in illegal activity. However I'm not sure banning him for something unrelated months before his charges makes anyone a good guy. Particularly when Trump has dropped shit like "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy...
He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

I don't mean to target Trump specifically, I was just seeing lots of names hitting Twitter, some obvious, some less obvious, and some members in this thread cleared up the context with quotes from the documents. But I do think having a long term association with Epstein is unlikely to look good no matter how it plays out. It seems like the guy was a known quantity to the rich and elite. Obviously associating with him is not the same as committing the crimes that many are deservedly accused of, but it's not a good look either.

Dude, I made simple statements regarding the documents we have available at the moment. Why you have taken any of that personally (or as a attack) and felt the need to defend yourself I don't know. You might be projecting here.

 

[phaedrus]

The Hyatt hotel heir is on the list. He received stuff.

Oof. Will any architect want their name nominated for the "prestigious" Pritzker Prize after this? And what about the past winners....

 

[BadHaircut]

Dude, I made simple statements regarding the documents we have available at the moment. Why you have taken any of that personally (or as a attack) and felt the need to defend yourself I don't know. You might be projecting here.

I wasn't taking it personally. I was just clarifying that it wasn't a political statement, or a Trump VS Hilary/Clinton thing, as your post covered both.

Edit: Also didn't think I was being defensive. Rather, directly challenging the idea that Trump might look like one of the good guys given his history with the dude.

 

[GHG]

I wasn't taking it personally. I was just clarifying that it wasn't a political statement, or a Trump VS Hilary/Clinton thing, as your post covered both.

My post covered both because both happened to be present in the tweet I shared. Nothing more to it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I havent followed this whole Epstein thing since it began aside from knowing there were master lists of well known names on it. Dont get me wrong, where's there's smoke there's fire, But it can just be an address book of some kind where anyone on the list may or may not be guilty.

But unless it can be proven, just because a name is on that list doesn't mean they were porning with teenagers.

If a drug dealer's black book got confiscated by police, it doesn't mean every person on that list bought drugs from him. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

 

[AJUMP23]

Oof. Will any architect want their name nominated for the "prestigious" Pritzker Prize after this? And what about the past winners....

David Copperfield was on the list, did not win architectural award. I made a mistake and am correcting it.

 

[BadHaircut]

My post covered both because both happened to be present in the tweet I shared. Nothing more to it.

Ah that makes sense. I thought it was two seperate posts but that's because I am shit at reading Twitter posts.

 

[BadHaircut]

I havent followed this whole Epstein thing since it began aside from knowing there were master lists of well known names on it. Dont get me wrong, where's there's smoke there's fire, But it can just be an address book of some kind where anyone on the list may or may not be guilty.

But unless it can be proven, just because a name is on that list doesn't mean they were porning with teenagers.

If a drug dealer's black book got confiscated by police, it doesn't mean every person on that list bought drugs from him. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

Yes that's why there is so much focus on ripping quotes from the documents to get context. There are some people that should be fucked based on what the documents say. Many others are just mentioned with no real allegation to implicate them.

 

[VaultBoy101]

I would caution everyone to approach Twitter/social media "news" about these documents with a grain of salt. There's already faked stuff (including screenshot mockups) related to the list out there, like the Jimmy Kimmel thing.

Also, there's a tendency to assign guilt by association here, especially when it comes to celebrities and polarizing politicians. Being named in these extensive court documents doesn't equal "accused of pedophilia or sex trafficking" in all cases.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

If Trump was seriously involved we would’ve known about it for years already.

I mean he had his own trafficking network with his underage beauty pagents and was close friends with Epstein, he just didn't go to Epstein's locations because he didn't need too.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I mean he had his own trafficking network with his underage beauty parents

I bet he did!

 

[Bartski]

 

[SlimySnake]

Every person Clinton ever banged already came out against him when he was running for governor, then again during the monica lewisky scandal. I dont understand why the Prince Andrew chick would come out but not the Bill Clinton or Stephen Hawkin rape victims. If all these guys were going out there having sex with minors, it wouldve come out already.

And just because Epstein told his rape victim something doesnt make it true. We are taking the word of a pedo here? Bill also has a secret service detail everywhere he goes. Those guys can be subpoenaed and asked to testify under oath.

Sorry just not buying this stuff. Hawkins couldnt lift a finger, and hes a pedo? Eh. Epstein was flying around hundreds of big name politicians, celebrities and scientists. Doesnt mean they are all pedos.

 

[near]

Alan Dershowitz and Stephen Hawking?