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-jinx- needs a job.

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Dilbert

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I think it's time for me to consider some career options.

Would you hire me? If so, what kind of job would you have me do, and what could I look forward to in the way of compensation?
 

Phoenix

Member
Post your resume if you seriously want people to give you feedback :D

If you're not truly serious, you could probably get some part time work in the porno industry....
 
You ever served in a foward area? Put your life in another man's hands, asked him to put his life in yours? If you answered yes to both questions, my underground militia, that attempts to dismantle the very glue which holds this filthy capitalist system together, could use your experience.
 

nitewulf

Member
Systems Integration Engineer, w/ your experience shouldnt be any problem.
Or Signals and Systems Engineer for the MTA, management obviously.
 
Do you have at least a couple years of Win32 and/or COM+ programming experience? Can you write technical specifications and documentation at a high level of competency? Do you like Seattle?

If so, PM me.
 

skip

Member
I'm assembling a local bar band. if you can play the E, A, G, D, and C chords, pm me. F chord is bonus.
 

sefskillz

shitting in the alley outside your window
Drinky Crow said:
Do you have at least a couple years of Win32 and/or COM+ programming experience? Can you write technical specifications and documentation at a high level of competency? Do you like Seattle?

If so, PM me.
If only we could make an exception to that experience part. I'm fresh out of college, but I know my stuff ;_;
 

Triumph

Banned
Do you like alcohol? Do you like serving alcohol in establishments with nekkid women? Do you like Hotlanta? If so, send me your resume.
 

Swordian

Member
Drinky Crow said:
Can you write technical specifications and documentation at a high level of competency?

Out of curiosity, is this a big problem?

I felt insulted the first time my professors started harping on the ability to write competent documentation. I figured I'd left behind the kind of people who can't write a proper sentence and I couldn't beleive that they had to remind us of this over and over. Then I worked on a project with a partner and read his documentation. Let's just say that my expectations of my peers were suddnely lowered.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
If you have l33t Java skillz (and I mean genuinely l33t) and fancy relocating to Surrey in the UK...

...ah, forget it.
 
Out of curiosity, is this a big problem?

Yes. There's more than just being able to form a sentence correctly; there's the ability to quickly and effectively convey complicated technical specifications to developers and internal customers. It's a talent few people have, much less those with equal experience as a real software engineer. APIs are useless if they're poorly architected and documented.

If you can code well and write well, you'll have a chance at some pretty cool (and well-compensated) gigs here in Redmond.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Yes. There's more than just being able to form a sentence correctly; there's the ability to quickly and effectively convey complicated technical specifications to developers and internal customers. It's a talent few people have, much less those with equal experience as a real software engineer. APIs are useless if they're poorly architected and documented.

damned right. Drinky speaks the truth.

The standard of documentation, and the ability to convey very complex IT based solutions or issues to other coders, non-IT users, internal clients and (especially) external clients is a massively overlooked skill.

You'd be surprised how hard it is to find that skill.

Also, the ability to do properly spec/requirements gather and then to document it all out in both an IT savvy and non-IT savvy way is a massive plus - it's a lot harder than you think....

Another thing is that , at least in my industry, the traditional "coder only" role is dead. You are now part BU staffer, analyst, code reviewer, QA expert, environmnetals expert, liason officer, documentation clerk, manager, etc etc... no one is a straight coder any more.

lol. Thinking about it... does anyone other than me actually bother using JSD/JSP or anything similar? Am i still living in the past!? ha ha ha
 
Visual Studio has this great little XML doc generation feature that NO-ONE uses. Hell, you slap the "/" key three times right before your function name, and it pretty much does the work FOR you.

I wouldn't hire a Java API dev who didn't regularly use JSD/JSP.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
I wouldn't hire a Java API dev who didn't regularly use JSD/JSP.

The shocking thing is , there are two of us in our entire department using *any* Jackson at all...
 

Diablos

Member
iapetus said:
If you have l33t Java skillz (and I mean genuinely l33t) and fancy relocating to Surrey in the UK...

...ah, forget it.
I don't know anything about java, but I would love to visit the UK sometime. Feeling generous? ;)
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
Drinky Crow said:
I wouldn't hire a Java API dev who didn't regularly use JSD/JSP.

Well, that's my dreams of working for Drinky out the window. I speak JSP, but don't use it regularly (we have customers for that) and it took a non-trivial Google to find out what JSD stands for. :)
 
Drinky Crow said:
Yes. There's more than just being able to form a sentence correctly; there's the ability to quickly and effectively convey complicated technical specifications to developers and internal customers. It's a talent few people have, much less those with equal experience as a real software engineer. APIs are useless if they're poorly architected and documented.

Let me just say that some of the worst writers that I've ever encountered are PhDs in computer sciences. I used to work for a trade show company and we would have them come in to teach courses. Oh man, reading, and editing their abstracts were BRUTAL.
 

slayn

needs to show more effort.
out of curiousity, what are you guys generally looking for in win32/com+ experiance?

being a soon to be fresh grad I'm still learning what peopel want to see. And actually programming for windows is somethign that was never taught in college so I never have anything to show in that regard. As such, its pretty obvious its up to me just to come up with something in my own time. Hence my question:

what would you want to see in such an application to significantly qualify/impress?

edit: At least I think I'm a somewhat decent writer. The problem is too much of school harps on prefessionalism and structure and grammar rather than being able to put your ideas forth with as few and simple words as possible while still preventing the person from falling asleep trying to read it. I got lucky and actually had a highschool english prof who just spent two years teaching us how to actually write in an interesting and clear manner.
 

beerbelly

Banned
If this is serious, then I'd suggest you go out with a friend, have a couple of beers and talk about it. No one here can really help you. Or if you'd prefer to stay home, then kick back, have a beer, listen to 'Monday Paracetamol' and examine your issue. Maybe your dissatisfaction in your job is only temporary. One stupid decision can ruin your life. But I'm sure you're wise enough to know that.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
You live anywhere near LI? (I saw someone mention you should try applying to work at the MTA) And you're a systems engineer? IM me your resume, I can see what to do. Are you a US citizen?
 

fart

Savant
Guys, I may be forced to graduate in the spring. Would any of you hire a completely insane theorist who enjoys making fun of people, inane bits of absurdity, and algebra a little too much?

My life's goal is to design a pocket calculator that plays chopsticks everytime you multiply.
 

White Man

Member
fart said:
Guys, I may be forced to graduate in the spring. Would any of you hire a completely insane theorist who enjoys making fun of people, inane bits of absurdity, and algebra a little too much?

My life's goal is to design a pocket calculator that plays chopsticks everytime you multiply.

Do your ambitions in life include buying LPs solely because they have hilarious album art?

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I found this beauty today for 2 DOLLARS! It will not taint my turntable, though, because Brian Eno lives there.
 

Dilbert

Member
Tim said:
Lame thread, really
Yeah, I guess so.

Although I was (mostly) blowing off steam after a memorably shitty day and hoping that one of the female GAF denizens was going to offer me a job warming their bed at night for something in the six-figure range, I suppose the fact that I feel this way every couple of months is a sign that I really OUGHT to consider doing something else.

My current job title is "systems engineer," which tends to mean something quite different outside of defense. I have spent a lot of time writing and analyzing requirements, done some UML modeling as part of design/architecture activities (use cases, sequence diagrams, etc.), generated test plans, and written documentation/training materials, mostly for software-intensive systems. Most of my time has been spent on new business capture efforts and program management, especially over the last couple of years. (My success on proposals is more or less responsible for screwing up my life, in fact.) I'm a very capable writer in a variety of styles -- this job has given me lots of practice in going from precise language in a TRD or SOW to concise, neutral language in business email to almost marketing-style writing in proposals to clear and verbose language in documentation or training materials. I don't have any kind of coding background, unless you consider LOGO to be a viable language, though I'm plenty comfortable poking around in a UNIX environment. I have no clue what the title of a job would be appropriate for my skill set in the commercial sector, but I assume that people HAVE to do those things, or nothing would ever get built or delivered.

My frustration is that it seems like EVERYTHING is always a damn emergency at my job. I don't mind putting in extra hours to see a deadline through to the end, but if you're doing it constantly, something is wrong. I'm also increasingly upset at the amount of time I'm redirected from projects I'm supposed to be running in order to chase proposals. When you're being forced to choose between either not executing on a project with your name on it, or working until ridiculous hours every day...what the hell do you choose? My work-life balance has been deeply screwed up for some time -- travel is fine when it's not excessive or is planned in advanced, but it's so unpredictable that I can't make plans for any weekday activity with any amount of advance planning. (Ask me about where I'm going to be on Valentine's Day night, by the way.) I'd have to think about the relocation issue. I'm in the Los Angeles area, and I have some personal ties here that I'd need to work through in order to move.

So, yeah, this is just venting. Probably.
 
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