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June 2005 US Sega Sales

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I figured I'd make this thread since Anihawk's arm is broken. Hope you feel better :)

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[b]Nintendo Gamecube[/b]           |  [b]Total[/b]  |
----------------------------+---------+
SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE    |1,173,123|
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION       | 946,320 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL           | 657,411 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2         | 644,573 |
SONIC ADVENTURE DX          | 573,417 |
SONIC HEROES                | 539,481 |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE I & II | 190,073 |
BILLY HATCHER               | 167,431 |
SKIES OF ARCADIA LEGENDS    | 148,731 |
NFL 2K3                     | 141,414 |
NBA 2K3                     | 101,290 |
NBA 2K2                     |  82,473 |
HOME RUN KING               |  69,592 |
BEACH SPIKERS               |  66,242 |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE III    |  49,277 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  44,975 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           |  33,694 |
AMAZING ISLAND              |  32,267 |
PHANTASY STAR PLUS          |  26,828 |
VIRTUA STRIKER 2002         |  11,065 |
NHL 2K3                     |  10,112 |
SAMURAI JACK                |   9,393 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |   5,931 |
PUYO POP FEVER              |   5,297 |
VIRTUA QUEST                |   3,551 |
----------------------------+---------+
[b]Microsoft Xbox[/b]              |  [b]Total[/b]  | 
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3                     | 303,386 |
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION PLUS  | 247,710 |
HOUSE OF THE DEAD III       | 204,596 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL           | 204,069 |
SONIC HEROES                | 189,222 |
NBA 2K3                     | 185,756 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL         | 153,130 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL       | 136,208 |
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA         | 129,015 |
NBA 2K2                     | 119,010 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           | 114,014 |
CRAZY TAXI 3                | 106,928 |
NFL 2K2                     | 103,236 |
JET SET RADIO FUTURE        | 101,148 |
GUNVALKYRIE                 |  95,539 |
SEGA GT 2002                |  90,377 | 
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL 2K3   |  89,397 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |  84,527 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL           |  74,756 |
NHL 2K3                     |  68,090 |
TOEJAM & EARL III           |  67,785 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY             |  64,559 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS          |  59,713 |
OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS       |  59,511 |
SEGA GT ONLINE              |  47,115 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  31,372 | 
SUPER MONKEY BALL DX        |  28,523 |
OTOGI 2                     |  25,982 |
WORMS 3D                    |  25,631 |
WORM FORT UNDER SIEGE       |  20,427 |
HEADHUNTER REDEMPTION       |   8,343 |
SPIKEOUT                    |     604 |
----------------------------+---------+
[b]Sony Playstation 2[/b]          |  [b]Total[/b]  |
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3                     | 841,998 |
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4            | 623,733 |
NBA 2K2                     | 467,319 |
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION PLUS  | 443,297 |
SONIC HEROES                | 411,762 |
NBA 2K3                     | 406,617 |
NFL 2K2                     | 359,509 |
SHINOBI                     | 286,775 |
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 EVO        | 252,184 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL           | 220,529 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL         | 205,488 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           | 184,902 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL2K3    |  95,589 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |  94,386 |
TENNIS 2K2                  |  90,275 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY             |  88,412 |
NHL 2K3                     |  82,560 |
GUNGRAVE                    |  76,221 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL           |  69,970 |
BASS FISHING DUEL           |  65,139 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS          |  63,634 |
SEGA SUPERSTARS             |  56,622 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  46,877 |
TENCHU                      |  45,817 |
NIGHTSHADE                  |  41,920 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL DX        |  37,266 |
SHINING TEARS               |  29,290 |
AERO ELITE: COMBAT          |  28,736 |
SEGA CLASSICS COLLECTION    |  24,612 |
ASTRO BOY                   |  24,408 |
REZ                         |  21,075 |
KING OF ROUTE 66            |  21,043 |
FERRARI F355 CHALLENGE      |  20,265 |
SAMURAI JACK                |  20,240 |
WORM FORT UNDER SIEGE       |  16,385 |
VIRTUAL-ON MARZ             |  14,411 |
BLOOD WILL TELL             |  13,067 |
HEADHUNTER REDEMPTION       |   8,374 |
VIRTUA QUEST                |   2,156 |
----------------------------+---------+--------+
[b]Top 10 [All-Formats][/b]        |  [b]Total[/b]  | [b]Format[/b] |
----------------------------+---------+--------+ 
10 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION +  | 443,297 |   PS2  |
9 NBA 2K2                   | 467,319 |   PS2  |
8 SONIC HEROES              | 539,481 |   NGC  |
7 SONIC ADVENTURE DX        | 573,417 |   NGC  |
6 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4          | 623,733 |   PS2  |
5 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2       | 644,573 |   NGC  |
4 SUPER MONKEY BALL         | 657,411 |   NGC  |
3 NFL 2K3                   | 841,998 |   PS2  |
2 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION     | 946,320 |   NGC  |
1 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE  |1,173,123|   NGC  |

Very little changed this month. Sonic Adventure 2 kept it's upward swing, and Super Monkey Ball DX continues to bomb on both PS2/Xbox. Super Monkey Ball 2 should pass it's predeccessor in two months time if it continues it's current sales pace. Sonic Heroes is currently selling better on the PS2, than on the GC, too.

There was no data for NCAA College Basketball for the GC, so if anyone has that, it would be much appreciated. As with last month, any numbers for Iron Phoenix would be good.
 
I have no idea why Sega doesn't support the GameCube more fully. In fact, they should be announcing plans to support the Revolution right and left. Nintendo fans seem to eat up Sega offerings on the Cube, why would things change next generation?
 
Thanks for doing the update. You did include the bundles though, right?

As far as NCAA goes, it's likely that there werent any copies sold for June.
 
Sega has yet to make a wise decision in all their years in the industry, do you think they'll start next generation? Come on, Shenmue 2 on Xbox?
 
littlewig said:
Sega has yet to make a wise decision in all their years in the industry, do you think they'll start next generation? Come on, Shenmue 2 on Xbox?
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That was ported and published by Microsoft, wasn't it?
 
sangreal said:
That was ported and published by Microsoft, wasn't it?
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Not to mention delayed for a YEAR when it was almost ready to be the Last Hurrah for the Dreamcast.

Though I guess I should be thanking them, because it made sure that English speakers got the superior version.
 
littlewig said:
Sega has yet to make a wise decision in all their years in the industry, do you think they'll start next generation?
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I used to ask Sega for Super Monkey Ball 3 for the GCN but then I realized that it would bomb. I really think that the GCN fanboys would look at SMBDX on the PS2 and XBOX and feel betrayed and ignore SMB3. Come on, it happened with Viewtiful Joe 2. :P
 
Fuzzy said:
I used to ask Sega for Super Monkey Ball 3 for the GCN but then I realized that it would bomb. I really think that the GCN fanboys would look at SMBDX on the PS2 and XBOX and feel betrayed and ignore SMB3. Come on, it happened with Viewtiful Joe 2. :P
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SMB3 wouldnt sell too well to begin with though. It'd be a big seller at the budget price.
 
AniHawk said:
Thanks for doing the update. You did include the bundles though, right?

As far as NCAA goes, it's likely that there werent any copies sold for June.
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I didn't include the Monkey Ball bundle. Does the bundle include Monkey Ball or Monkey Ball 2?
 
it's freaking sad that sega is screwing the console that buys the most Sega games.

well .. life goes on, and hopefully Sega will be gone tomorrow.
 
y hello thar

exciting thread. good to see anihawk participating. hoefully he'll get better and be able to continue this trend month...after month...after month...after month...

culex, you cant steal his thunder.

it'll be glorious.
and exiting.
very much so.
 
I truly hope Sega realizes that their Sonic Mega Collection titles sell better than Sonic in 3D.... that speaks for something....

2D for Sonic is the way to go, watch Sonic Rush sales go through the roof
 
AniHawk said:
These threads are always LTD
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Didn't the first two or three months of numbers for Spikeout not get released?

How is the Xbox version of Sonic Mega Collection? Are the games emulated perfectly?
 
If we ignore the Visual Concept games, the GC has the top 4, and judging by monthly sales will end up with the top 6 selling Sega games of this generation.

Where the hell is Outrun 2 on Xbox?
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Just FYI Outrun 2 flopped. I'd imagine it's somewhere between 25-45K.
 
I think its funny that some of Sega's best work this generation(Panzer, Gunvalkyrie, etc....) was put on the Xbox yet the best selling sega games are on the Gamecube and PS2. I'm not questioning the success of the Xbox, just Sega putting their AAA titles on only one console.
 
Yikes! Virtua Quest is over 5,000 total! Pretty good increase from such humble beginngings! :lol

Shining Tears has really tapered off but I still expect it'll make 40-50k like the other Shining games this gen.
 
I really can`t understand why Sega isn`t brining more games on the GameCube. Look at Sonic, over one million copies were sold. Sega should focus on GameCube and Revolution. They also should bringt games to PS2 and Xbox, but all these games should be released on the GameCube too.
 
Sorry, I'm late, here's the rest of the stats:

This Month
Games: 96
PS2: 39 | 40.63%
Xbox: 32 | 33.33%
Gamecube: 25 | 26.04%

Amount Sold: 14,876,493
PS2: 5,902,853 | 39.68%
Xbox: 3,239,679 | 21.78%
Gamecube: 5,733,961 | 38.54%

Average: 160,650
Gamecube: 229,358
PS2: 151,355
Xbox: 101,239


Last Month
Games: 96
PS2: 39 | 40.63%
Xbox: 32 | 33.33%
Gamecube: 25 | 26.04%

Amount Sold: 14,630,535
PS2: 5,792,794 | 39.59%
Gamecube: 5,646,413 | 38.59%
Xbox: 3,191,328 | 21.82%

Average: 152,401
Gamecube: 225,857
PS2: 148,533
Xbox: 99,729


Six Months Ago - January 2005
Games: 87
PS2: 34 | 39.08%
Xbox: 28 | 32.18%
GC: 25 | 28.74%

Amount Sold: 13,582,997
PS2: 5,386,238 | 39.65%
GC: 5,233,531 | 38.53%
Xbox: 2,963,228 | 21.82%

Average: 156,126
GC: 209,341
PS2: 158,419
Xbox: 105,830
 
Fuzzy said:
I used to ask Sega for Super Monkey Ball 3 for the GCN but then I realized that it would bomb. I really think that the GCN fanboys would look at SMBDX on the PS2 and XBOX and feel betrayed and ignore SMB3. Come on, it happened with Viewtiful Joe 2. :P
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Seeing as how SMB1 + SMB2 have been outselling the SMBDX PS2 + SMBDX Xbox version since those versions have come out I'd say you don't really have a point.

And VJ2 Cube has outsold the PS2 version by 2.5 times so what did the Cube fanboys not do exactly? Did you want them to block the aisles and stop people from buying the PS2 version or something? :lol
 
Did somebody say GunValkyrie was one of Sega's best games this generation? :lol
Their best games this gen were the Monkey Ball titles.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
I have no idea why Sega doesn't support the GameCube more fully. In fact, they should be announcing plans to support the Revolution right and left. Nintendo fans seem to eat up Sega offerings on the Cube, why would things change next generation?
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Well, remove Sonic and Monkey Ball and you have a pretty big drop off in terms of sales. Monkey Ball seems well suited for the Cube, sales agree, but there are some cross-platform Sonic titles and they seem to be pretty big sellers as well, and that is on systems with greater third-party competition. I'm just saying that without Sonic and Monkey Ball, there's nothing for Sega to rush to support the NGC over other platforms, unless it stereotypically targets Nintendo's demographics (kiddy).


P.S. Am I the only one amazed HotD3 sold over 200 000 copies? Those owners must be starving for a good gun game.
 
Instigator said:
Well, remove Sonic and Monkey Ball and you have a pretty big drop off in terms of sales. Monkey Ball seems well suited for the Cube, sales agree, but there are some cross-platform Sonic titles and they seem to be pretty big sellers as well, and that is on systems with greater third-party competition. I'm just saying that without Sonic and Monkey Ball, there's nothing for Sega to rush to support the NGC over other platforms, unless it stereotypically targets Nintendo's demographics (kiddy).


P.S. Am I the only one amazed HotD3 sold over 200 000 copies? Those owners must be starving for a good gun game.
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It only has sold that much because of last year. That and Skies of Arcadia Legends had a pretty sizeable jump in sales due to price drops.
 
Instigator said:
P.S. Am I the only one amazed HotD3 sold over 200 000 copies? Those owners must be starving for a good gun game.
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Well considering how GOOD HotD3 is, it doesn't really surprise me.

:proud to be one of the 200,000:
 
I find it funny that you try to discount their high sales on the Cube by saying "Take away SMB and Sonic, and what do you have?" Uh, aside from those games Sega really hasn't released many noteworthy titles on the Gamecube at all. There's still the PSO I and II, which sold quite well.
 
Zeo said:
Well considering how GOOD HotD3 is, it doesn't really surprise me.

:proud to be one of the 200,000:
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I'm also proud to be one of the 200,000 HOTD 3 owners. :D

I wish Sega would create some sort of Sega Ages Gun Collection. I need House of the Dead 1 and it doesn't look like any of the arcades in the New Orleans area are EVER going to get Virtua Cop 3.>:(
 
littlewig said:
Sega has yet to make a wise decision in all their years in the industry, do you think they'll start next generation? Come on, Shenmue 2 on Xbox?
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This comment is more retarded than Virtua Fighter Cyber Generations.
 
Instigator said:
Well, remove Sonic and Monkey Ball and you have a pretty big drop off in terms of sales. Monkey Ball seems well suited for the Cube, sales agree, but there are some cross-platform Sonic titles and they seem to be pretty big sellers as well, and that is on systems with greater third-party competition. I'm just saying that without Sonic and Monkey Ball, there's nothing for Sega to rush to support the NGC over other platforms, unless it stereotypically targets Nintendo's demographics (kiddy).
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Here's a list, and to start you off, I'll point out the PSO being an ONLINE game on the Gamecube couldn't be expected to do better. So go on genius, tell me exactly which Sega GC games you think should have done better?

PHANTASY STAR ONLINE I & II | 190,073 |
BILLY HATCHER | 167,431 |
SKIES OF ARCADIA LEGENDS | 148,731 |
NFL 2K3 | 141,414 |
NBA 2K3 | 101,290 |
NBA 2K2 | 82,473 |
HOME RUN KING | 69,592 |
BEACH SPIKERS | 66,242 |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE III | 49,277 |
SOCCER SLAM | 44,975 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 33,694 |
AMAZING ISLAND | 32,267 |
PHANTASY STAR PLUS | 26,828 |
VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 | 11,065 |
NHL 2K3 | 10,112 |
SAMURAI JACK | 9,393 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 5,931 |
PUYO POP FEVER | 5,297 |
VIRTUA QUEST | 3,551
 
Why don't they just make more multiplatform games? Other than the smilebit games, what has Sega made that really pushed one system's particular strengths? (and please don't mention Otogi which FROM developed, or F-Zero since a Nintendo IP wasn't going to be on the other systems to begin with)

The funniest (or saddest) part is that their top selling third party game is still a port of a Dreamcast game, and their top selling PS2 and Xbox game got those numbers after retailer fire sales (not to mention they don't have VC anymore).

Oh well, Sammy absorbs the costs now, so I doubt anyone at Sega even gives a shit at this point.
 
iclash said:
I think its funny that some of Sega's best work this generation(Panzer, Gunvalkyrie, etc....) was put on the Xbox yet the best selling sega games are on the Gamecube and PS2. I'm not questioning the success of the Xbox, just Sega putting their AAA titles on only one console.
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Well, that's very much a matter of opinion. Going with GameRankings, the highest rated Sega game between Xbox/PS2/GCN is VF4. Gunvalkyrie is below PSO Episode III. Heck, I'll just expand this. I had it search for best games released by Sega. I'll try to excise all Dreamcast and Sega Sports games.

2. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution PS2 Sega 52 8.4 92.0% 92.4%
3. Virtua Fighter 4 PS2 Sega 56 8.2 91.3% 91.5%
9. Panzer Dragoon Orta XBOX Sega 82 8.3 89.9% 90.2%
22. Super Monkey Ball GC Sega 62 8.2 88.3% 88.6%
35. Astro Boy: Omega Factor GBA Sega 41 7.0 85.0% 86.6%
36. JSRF: Jet Set Radio Future XBOX Sega 86 7.8 87.2% 86.4%
39. Super Monkey Ball 2 GC Sega 60 8.2 85.2% 86.1%
40. Skies of Arcadia Legends GC Sega 49 8.3 85.4% 86.1%
46. Sonic Advance 2 GBA Sega 39 8.1 84.0% 85.2%
47. Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II GC Sega 46 8.3 83.5% 85.0%
50. ChuChu Rocket GBA Sega 29 7.6 83.4% 84.3%
56. Sonic Advance GBA Sega 37 7.9 84.0% 83.4%
60. Sega GT 2002 XBOX Sega 50 7.4 82.8% 82.0%
62. Rez PS2 Sega 58 7.9 82.8% 81.7%
65. Otogi: Myth of Demons XBOX Sega 69 8.0 80.4% 81.2%
68. Otogi 2: Immortal Warriors XBOX Sega 35 7.9 79.9% 80.2%
69. Super Monkey Ball Deluxe XBOX Sega 22 7.3 79.4% 79.7%
71. The Pinball of the Dead GBA Sega 28 7.4 78.1% 78.6%
74. Super Monkey Ball Deluxe PS2 Sega 20 6.7 78.4% 78.0%
77. Beach Spikers GC Sega 46 7.3 77.5% 76.7%
80. Sonic Mega Collection GC Sega 48 8.3 75.8% 75.9%
81. Feel the Magic: XY/XX DS Sega 52 7.7 76.7% 75.8%
82. Sonic Mega Collection Plus XBOX Sega 21 8.2 75.5% 75.6%
84. Sonic Mega Collection Plus PS2 Sega 26 8.5 75.6% 75.5%
85. Sonic Heroes XBOX Sega 33 7.6 73.5% 74.7%
86. Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution GC Sega 22 8.4 74.6% 74.3%
87. Sega SuperStars PS2 Sega 32 7.3 72.9% 73.3%
88. Gunvalkyrie XBOX Sega 53 7.0 73.4% 73.0%
89. Worms 3D XBOX Sega 26 6.9 74.5% 72.7%
90. Sonic Heroes GC Sega 47 7.7 73.0% 72.5%
91. Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg GC Sega 46 6.7 71.2% 72.4%
92. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle GC Sega 53 7.6 75.3% 72.2%
93. ToeJam & Earl III: Mission to Earth XBOX Sega 49 6.5 71.2% 72.1%
95. The House of the Dead III XBOX Sega 52 7.1 71.3% 71.0%
97. Shinobi PS2 Sega 54 7.3 73.5% 70.7%
98. Blood Will Tell PS2 Sega 36 7.3 69.6% 70.0%
99. Sega GT Online XBOX Sega 33 7.0 70.9% 69.9%
100. Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller XBOX Sega 59 6.7 69.8% 69.8%
101. Sonic Heroes PS2 Sega 29 7.0 68.1% 68.2%
102. Nightshade PS2 Sega 49 7.0 68.3% 67.8%
105. Ferrari F355 Challenge PS2 Sega 36 5.9 67.7% 66.5%
106. Gungrave PS2 Sega 48 6.9 67.6% 65.9%
109. Worms Forts: Under Siege! PS2 Sega 21 7.2 62.2% 63.4%
110. Headhunter: Redemption PS2 Sega 32 6.8 62.5% 63.4%
111. Sonic Adventure DX Director's Cut GC Sega 48 7.5 63.8% 63.2%
112. Samurai Jack: The Shadow of Aku PS2 Sega 23 5.0 60.9% 61.6%
113. Headhunter: Redemption XBOX Sega 24 6.8 62.1% 61.5%
114. Virtua Striker 2002 GC Sega 24 6.1 61.4% 60.0%
115. Tenchu: Fatal Shadows PS2 Sega 34 6.8 61.5% 59.7%
116. The King of Route 66 PS2 Sega 27 6.1 58.9% 59.4%
117. Amazing Island GC Sega 22 6.5 58.7% 58.4%
120. Astro Boy PS2 Sega 29 5.4 54.8% 55.7%
 
Actually the way I look at it is this. The Sega effort on GC can be described as, a niche game that saw huge success, a whole bunch of ports and some sports, a couple of mediocre original efforts like Billy Hatcher & VFQ and a new multiplatform Sonic game. In other words, a shit line up.

The ps2 got Virtua Fighter 4, a cool effort in Shinobi, multiplatform Sonic, lots of sports games and a whole bunch of interesting but unsuccessful efforts like Nightshade, F355, Shining Tears and Headhunter and some other filler including SMB DX. In other words, an below average line up

The xbox got a whole bunch of cool games like JSRF, Crazy Taxi 3, Panzer Dragoon Orta, HOTD 3, Toe Jam & Earl, Outrun 2, lots of sports games and some filler. In other words, a good line up.
 
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