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[Dram]

was the boy actually Ichi?

 

[fart]

everything after kakihara puts those pins in his ears up to his fall is a dream sequence. he kills himself. then the old man kills himself because...

i can't really remember the rest. there's a good analysis i think in the imdb reviews or on the board posts at imdb.

the boy isn't ichi. the boy is the bullies that used to beat ichi up.

 

[Dujour]

!!!!!

Your avatar's from one of my favorite most underated shows I wish I could answer your question, now.

 

[Tea Master]

everything after kakihara puts those pins in his ears up to his fall is a dream sequence. he kills himself. then the old man kills himself because...

i can't really remember the rest. there's a good analysis i think in the imdb reviews or on the board posts at imdb.

the boy isn't ichi. the boy is the bullies that used to beat ichi up.

Spoiler

I thought Ichi was never a victim of bullies, wasn't that just the hypnosis from the old guy? Also, was that girl (don't remember her name but I think she's chinese) hypnotised as well? Since she had the same memories as Ichi.

 

[fart]

i stand by the first point. i really don't remember enough about the movie to get the rest right apparently

 

[shuri]

That was one hell of a confusing bad movie.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

...That is the sickest movie i've ever seen.. "hey guys think we can tear off his arm? LETS SEE" Jayzus.

 

[SKluck]

It was actually a lot more tame than I thought it would be. People hype these asian movies up 10x more than they should be. Ichi, Audition... tame.

 

[KiNeSiS]

The best character wasn't even Ichi.
It made me so sad

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY!!!!!

 

[Goreomedy]

It was actually a lot more tame than I thought it would be. People hype these asian movies up 10x more than they should be. Ichi, Audition... tame.

Try Visitor Q.

 

[Coin Return]

Kakihara had built up Ichi as being the ultimate sadomasochist. When he finally realized that Ichi was nothing more than a tool and a wimp, he put the clothespins in his ears so he could block out the sound of Ichi crying. Thats all I can remember right now, I have to go watch the end again to remember the rest...

 

[Grifter]

According to a retelling of a producer's explanation on 1 of the DVD releases:

Kakihara throws himself off the roof, Ichi keeps crying and gets kicked to death by the little boy, the boy hangs Jijii and walks with a limp to signify that he's the next Ichi (Ichi was shot in the leg).

 

[bjork]

Try Visitor Q.

The cover made me want to NOT try it. -_-

 

[Deleted member 4784]

I haven't seen Ichi the Killer in awhile, so the roof scene is still kind of blurry to me (in remembering the consecutive order of the scenes particularly); but IIRC, Kakihara actually killed Ichi, then stuck the pins in his ears so he wouldn't have to hear how pitiful Ichi's crying was. Kakihara was so dissapointed with Ichi that he then "imagined" being killed by Ichi; committing suicide later by throwing himself off the roof (which explains why he has no scar on his forehead).

The boy at the end I thought was supposed to be the son of the gunman. You see the boy feeding a crow in one scene of the movie (crows being bringers of death in mythology) so you're lead to believe he's harboring a need to kill someone. At the end, when Jiji is hanging from the tree, what (I assume) is the same crow flies by or perches on the tree (I forget exactly). Also, Jiji being hanged similar to a gallows setting sort of makes it seem like a "judgment" or "justice" killing; so again, you're left to assume it is the gunman's son out for revenge.

I don't see how anyone can find this movie "tame" considering the violence, rape scenes, etc. Miike gets more sick, gross, disturbing, etc. with each of his movies to me (which is one of the attractions to watching them I guess) so I have to wonder what the hell you are watching (Faces of Death?) if you think anything by him is "tame" LOL

If you really feel left out after seeing Ichi the Killer, then Dead or Alive has some more "sick" or gross-you-out kind of stuff. I'd also recommend seeing Audition if you're looking for a more "serious" Miike film.

 

[michael000]

Read the manga version, 1000x better imo. Stuff that the movie just barely touches is gone into pretty great detail in the manga. Not to mention that if you thought that the movie was violent the manga is worst heh. It's kinda like the Battle Royale manga and movie if you've read and seen those you'll know what i mean. Definitely worth the read.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

It was actually a lot more tame than I thought it would be. People hype these asian movies up 10x more than they should be. Ichi, Audition... tame.

Ok, this is tame? Then what the fuck do you watch? You must be a freaking sicko. I watch a LOT of movies, and well, I couldn't tell you the ending to this one, cause I TURNED IT OFF BEFORE IT ENDED. It was bad, and atrocious to watch. If this is tame, I don't wanna see what is not.

 

[Deleted member 4784]

Some of the violence in Ichi the Killer may come off as "corny" by today's standards of CGI, but I still don't see that as making it in the least bit "tame" considering the graphic scenes of sexual violence, violation, etc. in the film. Maybe this is what's wrong with our society today; we're too keyed up by violent imagery to give a damn about the sexual kind. Some of the sexual scenes in that film were far more disturbing to me than any horror film I've ever seen... which in a way I guess is what makes Miike's films so graphic/disturbing: they're broad in how the offend you. :lol

 

[fart]

I haven't seen Ichi the Killer in awhile, so the roof scene is still kind of blurry to me (in remembering the consecutive order of the scenes particularly); but IIRC, Kakihara actually killed Ichi, then stuck the pins in his ears so he wouldn't have to hear how pitiful Ichi's crying was. Kakihara was so dissapointed with Ichi that he then "imagined" being killed by Ichi; committing suicide later by throwing himself off the roof (which explains why he has no scar on his forehead).

The boy at the end I thought was supposed to be the son of the gunman. You see the boy feeding a crow in one scene of the movie (crows being bringers of death in mythology) so you're lead to believe he's harboring a need to kill someone. At the end, when Jiji is hanging from the tree, what (I assume) is the same crow flies by or perches on the tree (I forget exactly). Also, Jiji being hanged similar to a gallows setting sort of makes it seem like a "judgment" or "justice" killing; so again, you're left to assume it is the gunman's son out for revenge.

I don't see how anyone can find this movie "tame" considering the violence, rape scenes, etc. Miike gets more sick, gross, disturbing, etc. with each of his movies to me (which is one of the attractions to watching them I guess) so I have to wonder what the hell you are watching (Faces of Death?) if you think anything by him is "tame" LOL

If you really feel left out after seeing Ichi the Killer, then Dead or Alive has some more "sick" or gross-you-out kind of stuff. I'd also recommend seeing Audition if you're looking for a more "serious" Miike film.

this sounds pretty much dead on to me.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

Miike gets more sick, gross, disturbing, etc. with each of his movies to me (which is one of the attractions to watching them I guess)

The main thing I don't understand with Miike fans. LET'S SEE WHAT HE CAN COME UP WITH!! I mean come on, you can imagine plenty of freaky things in your mind, does that make you a genius? OH MY GOD SHE'S CUTTING HER OWN TONGUE, OH MY GOD HE'S EATING HIS OWN BOWELS, OH MY GOD HE IS FUCKING HER BRAIN WITH HIS COCK. Really, how old are Miike fans anyway? If you're more than 20 years old, consider yourself a bad human being.