Kasich, Cruz campaigns believe they could have beaten Trump if Rubio was running mate

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/08/politics/republican-officials-donald-trump-marco-rubio-ted-cruz/

Republican officials who oppose Donald Trump as their party nominee have spent the last few days -- ever since the withdrawal from the race of Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich -- wondering if there is anything they could have done to prevent this outcome.

Top officials of the Cruz campaign are convinced there is one specific step that could have stopped Trump -- and they blame Sen. Marco Rubio for not taking that step.
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What did polls suggest a Cruz-Rubio ticket would do in those states?
"Blowout," said a source close to Cruz. "65%-35%," with Trump losing.
Through friends and emissaries, the Cruz campaign tried to get Rubio on board.
But Cruz could not reach him on the phone, and others reported back to the Cruz campaign that Rubio did not seem interested in having a discussion about this at all.
"He went off the grid," said a source close to Cruz. Cruz campaign officials speculated that Rubio was interested in preserving his political viability for a contested GOP convention or the 2020 race.
A source familiar with Rubio's thinking says there never really was a concrete offer from the Cruz campaign to team up -- just vague discussions from donors about polls and the potential for such a move -- but either way, he was not interested.
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A source close to Kasich reported that the Ohio governor tried to broach the subject with Rubio as well, and the campaigns discussed it as well, before and after the March 8 Michigan primary. Kasich's team did not conduct any polling but they are also convinced if the two men had teamed up, "we would have swept the rest of the primaries."
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I find it kind of endearing that they both think it's Rubio's fault for not being their running mate, despite Rubio's camp saying they never even got a concrete offer from Cruz, and Kasich didn't even try at all for Rubio.

I also have to laugh at the thought Trump supporters would jump ship for Rubio and Cruz or Kasich. They're Trump supporters, many of them are "anti-establishment" and NOTHING could have taken their vote to another candidate. Not even if Cruz shit directly on the steps of DC.

I'm glad Trump beat Cruz at the very least. Trump may not be the best, but at least he isn't Ted Cruz.

Lock if old.
 
Little Marco made the right decision by not running with either of them. The GOP is a clusterfuck and I can't blame anyone not wanting to be connected to Trump or the other candidates. It would blow up either way.
 
Thank the gods for Trump, dude stumped the GOP establishment and killed off any chance of Kasich/Rubio/Bush/Cruz in the WH. /airhorn
 
Yes, the Rubio that got blown out in his own state and was doing so bad before he dropped out he was losing in states to Kasich.

lmao, somehow Rubes great Republican hope mythology lives on.
 
Abounder said:
Thank the gods for Trump, dude stumped the GOP establishment and killed off any chance of Kasich/Rubio/Bush/Cruz in the WH. /airhorn
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Cruz was fucked from the moments he promised to get rid of gay marriage and abortion, and when he called LGBT groups jihadists agaihst Christianity. There was no chance for him to stand against Trump after shit like that IMO.
 
Rubio didn't win a single state including is OWN state. Rubio was the definitive paper tiger for the GoP establishment.
 
Rubio, like "policy wonk" Paul Ryan before him, exposed himself as an empty shirt almost immediately. Whatever crazy delusional marketing campaign the GOP thought it was running with this "wildly energetic young Latino maverick" they trotted out a doughy, policy-bereft balding white dude with a Spanish last name who froze like a deer in the headlights the first time a grown up lobbed him a fucking softball.
 
If everyone but Cruz had dropped out after Super Tuesday and endorsed him, it's possible Cruz could have pulled it off.
 
Yeah right...
Continue to bathe yourself in the delusion that Trump didn't steamroll all of them; the creation bested the masters.
 
I'm not even sure what word to use to describe this and the GOP in general right now. They spent a ton of money and time figuring out why they lost in 2012, only to ignore it and double down. Then they keep doing this "if only we had done X thing, we could have stopped Donald Trump." This is the same guy that all the candidates in the beginning where talking about in positive terms, until Trump literally destroyed them by using one or two adjectives (low energy, little, lying, etc).

I guess the word I'm looking for is delusional. I mean, I guess if you're going to do a stunt like picking a VP running mate when you're getting crushed, Rubio is better than Carly, but come on.
 
teruterubozu said:
"Let’s dispel with this fiction..."

Probably my favorite moment during the primaries. Such a glorious meltdown.
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I didn't watch that debate, but I'd heard about Christie cracking him multiple times before and I finally googled it.

Holy shit. What happened? I can understand Marcobot repeating the same line once. The poor guy doesn't have a strong constitution. But again? How did he not become self-conscious enough after the first mistake to not do it again?
 
Paltheos said:
I didn't watch that debate, but I'd heard about Christie cracking him multiple times before and I finally googled it.

Holy shit. What happened? I can understand Marcobot repeating the same line once. The poor guy doesn't have a strong constitution. But again? How did he not become self-conscious enough after the first mistake to not do it again?
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Honestly I think he just got really nervous and started impulsively pulling lines from his brain he'd been practicing all week to prep for the debate and just kept pulling the same one before his mind had even caught up to realize he was repeating himself. He was alright in debates until he got flustered and then he'd just fall apart.
 
Enter the Dragon Punch said:
Cruz was fucked from the moments he promised to get rid of gay marriage and abortion, and when he called LGBT groups jihadists agaihst Christianity. There was no chance for him to stand against Trump after shit like that IMO.
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This had nothing to do with why Trump beat Cruz in the Republican primary.
 
Same campaigns who thought an alliance was no different to announcing their both pulling out. GOP strategists lack any real sense of where their votes come from - voters; this is just more evidence and its why Trump has got where he is.

Rubio lost his own fucking state.
 
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