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[Piepz]

Cell is not like that. Application programs can no longer directly access the hardware; instead they will have to be written in high-level, object-oriented language. That was done for security reasons: If processors of high performance and wide bandwidth like the Cell were linked together without sufficient security, a worldwide system crash could occur with one attack.

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[akascream]

a worldwide system crash

Man, when this guy comes down, he's gonna hit hard.

 

[krypt0nian]

CELL dooms us all!

Y2K x 1,000,000,000

Kutaragi redeems us in the end!

 

[Teddman]

 

[Flo_Evans]

is it just me or is the PS3/cell starting to sound like skynet?

and are they playing up this doom and gloom cell can take over the world, but don't worry cause we are at the helm to make the PS3 seem more powerfull?

thought this was interesting!

For example, it can compile images and video footage of you by recognizing your images from a vast accumulation [of images]. When used for security, it could use image recognition to identify the presence of a stranger in a monitored area.

so your eyetoy is now going to monitor your living room for 'strangers'!?? I don't know if I like the idea of my PS3 looking at me... might have to unplug it if I want to get busy on my couch

this part is even stranger...

An enormous demand for computing will be born in homes. A part of the Cell's computation power could be sold to, for example, information service providers and could be purchased when large processing power was necessary. This is already realized as a part of grid computing, but the Cell could realize it in much faster and more effective way. This would encourage the emergence of a new business.

PS3 CURES CANCER THROUGH NETWORK COMPUTING! FULL STORY AT 8!


so we know the PS3 is going to spy on us, but aparantly its going to moonlight for our ISPs to cure cancer or whatever (probably just going send sony all the information its collected about us)...

bring on next gen!

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Sounds like a mistranslation of "global" which has a decidely different meaning when it comes to computer systems.

But the "Kutargi is nuts" meme is so healthy I doubt this observation matters.

 

[Diseased Yak]

Wow, this guy's like a prophet of doom.

The PS3 better gently massage my genitals while I play MSG4 or I'm going to be calling this guy up and saying "WTF?! The Cell didn't deliver what you hyped, yo!"

Nate
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[123rl]

wth? :lol

I don't pretend to know anything overly technical but it sounds to me like he's saying Cell programs have to be written differently, because the processor is powerful that it's dangerous if not used securely? :lol

 

[akascream]

wth? :lol

I don't pretend to know anything overly technical but it sounds to me like he's saying Cell programs have to be written differently, because the processor is powerful that it's dangerous if not used securely? :lol

He's saying it requires special object oriented code or the world will crash. That's right, PS3 is so powerful that if misused, it could mean the end of the very world as we know it.

 

[krypt0nian]

 

[Dr_Cogent]

The entire design around Cell is with security in mind. It wasn't an afterthought - it was designed in from the beginning. There are some good articles I've read that discuss this. Sony/IBM are hoping that Cell is adopted across the board for all different types of devices.

Is Ken even an engineer though?

 

[Blimblim]

Sounds like a mistranslation of "global" which has a decidely different meaning when it comes to computer systems.

Yeah that's what I think too. Still, it's interesting that the developers won't be able to code down to the metal with Cell, I think it's a first for a japanese system?

 

[SHOCKIE]

:lol

 

[MassiveAttack]

Is Ken even an engineer though?

Yes, he's been an engineer for his entire career.

 

[gofreak]

One virus with low level access to the hardware spreading across homogenous hardware and software (cell) - that's designed to talk to each other, no less - could bring down the whole system (i.e. a network of cell computers, beit worldwide or whatever). When he talks about a "worldwide system", he means cell computers on the internet - obviously not all computers. If you have a closed box, the same hardware, and one virus can exploit a vulnerability in that hardware, then a lot of systems can be exposed. The concern is not without merit.

The thing is, Cell can be coded at a low level (but there is hardware protection and security that may make it difficult to execute malicious code).

Perhaps the concern is regarding the wider development community, since Cell is being made an open platform (and for example, with Linux set to be widely distributed on PS3) - and the normal problems with that follow (e.g. virii). Perhaps low-level access to hardware will be restricted for the regular folk who pick a PS3 or Cell computer, or whatever, off a shelf, but for licensed devs (game developers), low level access is A-OK. Who knows.

 

[MassiveAttack]

 

[Apharmd Battler]

LMAO!! Also at the Skynet comment. has gaming PR really gotten this absurd?!

 

[akascream]

Does ken have enough money to be a scientologist? You know, after his big demotion and all.

 

[Ponn]

He's saying it requires special object oriented code or the world will crash. That's right, PS3 is so powerful that if misused, it could mean the end of the very world as we know it.

No, that's not what he said. Because of the Cell structure and them being connected as such if they do not have enough security one virus attack could effect multiple systems across the board. Worldwide if they were connected as such.

For example when I worked at Gateway computers at night once all stores closed the computers that were set up in each and every store were on the main Gateway Network and Gateway computers would "rent" out the total processing power of all their computers in stores to businesses that needed massive information processed. If it wasn't for security in each and every Gateway computer in the stores someone could inject a virus into the network that would trickle down to each computer. That is basically what Kutaragi is saying, nothing nuts about that just common sense really.

 

[akascream]

For example when I worked at Gateway computers at night

Heh, I love GAF expert testimony. Thanks for the pro tip guy. =P

 

[IJoel]

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[Ponn]

Heh, I love GAF expert testimony. Thanks for the pro tip guy. =P

What's your point? Oh wait, you have none.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

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LMAO!! Also at the Skynet comment. has gaming PR really gotten this absurd?!

:lol

He's saying it requires special object oriented code or the world will crash. That's right, PS3 is so powerful that if misused, it could mean the end of the very world as we know it.

gotta love em xbots, right on schedule as always!

 

[akascream]

What's your point? Oh wait, you have none.

Just saying. We've all had shitty jobs dude.

 

[fartblast]

is it just me or is the PS3/cell starting to sound like skynet?

and are they playing up this doom and gloom cell can take over the world, but don't worry cause we are at the helm to make the PS3 seem more powerfull?

thought this was interesting!



so your eyetoy is now going to monitor your living room for 'strangers'!?? I don't know if I like the idea of my PS3 looking through my digital pictures (might be some naughty ones!)

this part is even stranger...



PS3 CURES CANCER THROUGH NETWORK COMPUTING! FULL STORY AT 8!


so we know the PS3 is going to spy on us, but aparantly its going to moonlight for our ISPs to cure cancer or whatever (probably just going send sony all the information its collected about us)...

bring on next gen!

hes talking about ps3's processor, not the ps3

 

[GhaleonEB]

gotta love em xbots, right on schedule as always!

This has nothing to do with xbots, and everything to do with Ken going totally batshit insane lately.

 

[AtomicShroom]

Considering the PSP was so easily cracked and considering just about every operating system and security system on this earth has at least one flaw... I'm sure such attacks will happen anyway.

 

[Ponn]

Just saying. We've all had shitty jobs dude.

No, I caught your attempted slam at my opinion but great attempt at trying to cover it up.
-5 poor reply form +2 effort to cover it up

 

[krypt0nian]

gotta love em xbots, right on schedule as always!

Daaaaamage control front and center.

 

[Suikoguy]

This has nothing to do with xbots, and everything to do with Ken going totally batshit insane lately.

Even i'd agree on that :lol

 

[Doom_Bringer]

This has nothing to do with xbots, and everything to do with Ken going totally batshit insane lately.

read what go freak and ponno1 said, it never occurs to them that it might be mistranslated information.

Daaaaamage control front and center.

stfu

 

[bishoptl]

gofreak's explanation pretty well wraps up this thread. Quit posting OA idiocy over here, I like this forum's posts with a slight modicum of forethought involved.

Idiots.