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Kerry's stepson, Chris Heinz, calls Bush 'coke head'...

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October 31, 2004 -- THIS campaign is ending just in time before someone gets hurt. John Kerry's stepson, Chris Heinz, 31, displayed his mother Teresa's famous lack of rhetorical restraint at a recent campaign event with a group of Wharton students. Philadelphia magazine reports: "Heinz accused Kerry's opponents - 'our enemies' - of making the race dirty. 'We didn't start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead,' he said, before adding, 'I'll do it now.' Asked later about it, Heinz said, 'I have no evidence. He never sold me anything.'" Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, "One of the things I've noticed is the Israel lobby - the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state." Buchanan was blasted as an anti-Semite years ago when he cited Israel's "amen corner" in Congress.
 
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Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, "One of the things I've noticed is the Israel lobby - the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state."
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EakeLarth said:
Oh my god. Someone he's not even related to said this! Alert the media!
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Do you say the same when Teresa says stupid shit? After all, she's not related to Kerry either.

And I'm not justifying this as news, but the fact remains, having someone close to you in any form say ridiculous shit in public when you're running for president is pretty dumb and should be stopped. If he's elected president, he's gonna have to work to keep some mouths shut in order to prevent PR disasters.
 
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Dan said:
Do you say the same when Teresa says stupid shit? After all, she's not related to Kerry either.

And I'm not justifying this as news, but the fact remains, having someone close to you in any form say ridiculous shit in public when you're running for president is pretty dumb and should be stopped. If he's elected president, he's gonna have to work to keep some mouths shut in order to prevent PR disasters.
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He's married to Theresa. So they are related. The connection to son-in-law is much looser, but still there of course.
 
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Ripclawe

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He works for the Kerry Campaign and his speech is in an official capacity, so yes it would make the media if he berates Israel and says President Bush is a cokehead.
 
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gofreak said:
He's married to Theresa. So they are related. The connection to son-in-law is much looser, but still there of course.
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Meh, I guess. If I get married though, I would never refer to my wife as a relative. When I think relative, I think shared blood. I guess technically that's not true, but it makes more sense to me.
 
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Lest anyone start suggesting otherwise - it's probably important to point out that these appeared to be his own personal musings rather than a representation of Kerry's policy or views, despite him sharing them at an official function.
 
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Ripclawe said:
He works for the Kerry Campaign and his speech is in an official capacity, so yes it would make the media if he berates Israel and says President Bush is a cokehead.
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So by the same standard, bringing up the fact that a member of the Cheney campaign staff is openly gay is also fair, right?

Anyhow, I agree with Dan. I like Kerry, but Teresa needs to shut the hell up. So does her son.
 
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nathkenn said:
expressing your opinion in america? crazy
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:rolleyes:

yes, freedom of speech is all good here.. yes, you are allowed to express your opinion. but when you are related to/ and work for the campaign of a presidential candidate, you best be choosing your words wisely.. cause image is everything. NOT just in america.
 
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But more so in america than anywhere else. Which other countries' political parties bring celebrities along for the campaign trail? That's the ultimate proof that American politics is more about style than substance.
 
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Optimistic said:
But more so in america than anywhere else. Which other countries' political parties bring celebrities along for the campaign trail? That's the ultimate proof that American campaigns are more about style than substance.
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Which other countries' political parties bring celebrities along for the campaign trail?
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The UK, France, Italy, Brazil, Japan, pretty much any country in the globe that is a democracy and has celebrities. Where do you live where that doesn't happen?
 
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Oh really? Examples? And I don't mean merely celebrities that support a certain party, I mean celebrities that are actually affiliated with the parties and speak/perform at Party rallies etc.

I live in Australia btw.
 
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A lot of the pro-Israel evangelists are very anti-semetic
They just want the Jews to go back to the holy land so we can DIE when Jesus comes back
 
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Oh really? Examples? And I don't mean merely celebrities that support a certain party, I mean celebrities that are actually affiliated with the parties and speak/perform at Party rallies etc.

I live in Australia btw.
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A quick Google search turned up something involving Malcolm Turnbull and the Australian Republican Movement.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/16/1032054759422.html?oneclick=true

Time's up for the Turnbull republic

September 17 2002

The celebrity-driven Australian Republican Movement has failed. Republicans deserve better. By Lindsay Tanner.

The time has come for the Australian Republican Movement to disband and for a new generation of republican advocates to emerge.

The republican cause has been fatally damaged by its association with the celebrity driven ARM. It has been a plaything of the rich and famous, suffocating under a stampede of self-indulgent celebrities anxious to identify with a fashionable cause.
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LOL!! You'll have to do better than that!! The Republican "Movement"? It's not even a political party! And who the fuck's Malcolm Turnbull? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Next.
 
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Optimistic said:
But more so in america than anywhere else. Which other countries' political parties bring celebrities along for the campaign trail? That's the ultimate proof that American politics is more about style than substance.
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first of all.. this is pretty random. second of all. most well known celebrities are american. or live in america. therefore, it would make sense that america has the most known celebrities that dabble in politics.

just out of curiosity. . what celebrities are you speaking of?



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when i said image is everything. i wasnt talking about a Flashy image. rather, one that represents what people look for in a presidential candidate.
 
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LOL!! You'll have to do better than that!! The Republican "Movement"? It's not even a political party! And who the fuck's Malcolm Turnbull? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Next.
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My, aren't we a prick. Like the rest of the world outside Australia, I pay very little attention to the intricacies of Australian politics.

I'm not going to attempt to Google this anymore, since any search for a combination of "politics" and "celebrities" inevitably turns up results for the American election, since a.)it's coming up in a day and the every online news resource in the world is covering it, and b.) It's really late up here in the half of the globe that people care about. But here is an example from India:


Bollywood's march to politics- Manoj, Apra join BJP
Monday, March 8 2004 18:32 Hrs (IST)

New Delhi: The Bollywood ramp show at the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party) headquarters continued in New Delhi today (Mar 8, 2004) with a saffron bandanna sporting Manoj "Bharat" Kumar formally joining the party couple of days ahead of Deputy Premier L K Advani's 'Bharat Uday Yatra'.

"I have been a member for a long time but only now I am signing up my membership form," he told reporters in the presence of Law Minister and party spokesman Arun Jaitley and his colleague Prakash Javadekar.

Kumar, known for his films being based mostly on patriotic themes, had met Advani yesterday (Mar 7).
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quadriplegicjon said:
first of all.. this is pretty random.
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First of all, what is?

second of all. most well known celebrities are american. or live in america. therefore, it would make sense that america has the most celebrities that dabble in politics.
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Arrogance duly noted. No, really though, that's not exactly true. You're thinking mainly of movie stars (I assume, if not then, well...*insert offensive insult here*), in which case that'd be an accurate assessment. But umm, the term "celebrity also includes sports stars and bands, of which America certainly doesn't have a monopoly on.

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My, aren't we a prick. Like the rest of the world outside Australia, I pay very little attention to the intricacies of Australian politics.
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Then perhaps you shouldn't have tried to mask your ignorance by posting that laughable article you found off of google.

I'm not going to attempt to Google this anymore
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Wise decision.

since any search for a combination of "politics" and "celebrities" inevitably turns up results for the American election, since a.)it's coming up in a day and the every online news resource in the world is covering it
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Granted. Which is why you shouldn't make blanket statements about the politics of countries you know nothing about.

and b.) It's really late up here in the half of the globe that people care about.
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Arrogant and ignorant, what a deadly combination! Uh, for your argument that is.
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