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[Wario64]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/240459.asp

 

[Matlock]

Tempting, but I'll wait for Subsistence. :-X

 

[Manders]

ouch. lol

 

[B'z-chan]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/242294.asp

Golden Eye Deux for 10 bucks.

 

[Wario64]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/242294.asp

Golden Eye Deux for 10 bucks.

goldeneye and mgs3 don't even compare, what are you trying to say

 

[Matlock]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/242294.asp

Golden Eye Deux for 10 bucks.

Too bad it's not the PS2 version. :-\

 

[impirius]

I <3 MGS3

 

[The Faceless Master]

so will subsistence go straight to GH?

 

[Nightbreeze]

poor kojima.

 

[Link316]

no, I'm crying cause I bought this and Kojima's gonna squeeze more $$$ out of me with Subsistence ;_;

 

[Johnas]

Tempting, but I'll wait for Subsistence. :-X

What sucks even more is that MGS3:S will likely sell even worse than MGS3.

I really hope Kojima was kidding with that "I may not even release MGS4 in America" comment from a while back.

 

[brocke]

Wow how did it get that low? I thought MGS3 hit platinum sales on the US Magic Box charts?

 

[Wario64]

so will subsistence go straight to GH?

probably not, IIRC MGS2 was a greatest hit when Substance came out. And Substance carried a $39.99 MSRP

 

[demi]

Still not interested.

 

[Link1110]

Is Substinance going to have a radar? I'll still buy it for the extra games included, but I'm still not sire about MGS3....

 

[Wario64]

Is Substinance going to have a radar? I'll still buy it for the extra games included, but I'm still not sire about MGS3....

well it has the same "radar" from regular MGS3 Snake Eater...but no conventional radar like MGS1/2

but it does have a new 3rd person view that's similiar to Splinter Cell

 

[TAJ]

>>>but it does have a new 3rd person view that's similiar to Splinter Cell<<<

Sweet. As is, it's about as playable as Dino Crisis 3.

 

[M3wThr33]

He's not crying, but he IS hungry.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I'm thinking that Substinence will debut at $40...Hopefully since I already own Snake Eater.

 

[Liquid_Bike]

Does anyone know the ETA of Substance?

 

[jenov4]

Damn the patriots!!

Subsistience is due this fall. No exact date given.

 

[White Man]

It's almost worth 20 bucks. Subsistence will be worth full price if the new camera is Splinter Cell-esque.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

i would have bit, but the demo did nothing for me thanks mostly in part to the primitive camera angle. I'll definately wait for Subsistence. Welcome to 21st century game design, Hideo Kojima.

 

[BuddyC]

He's crying in that "Haha, all you suckers bought an incomplete game and now I'm that much richer" sense.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

I just finished MGS3 two days ago. Fantastic ending sequence, otherwise I think the game is vastly over-rated by everybody here.

 

[Nintendo Ate My Children]

I just finished MGS3 two days ago. Fantastic ending sequence, otherwise I think the game is vastly over-rated by everybody here.

Seems you're not the only one. I hate when conventional wisdom on a game changes so rapidly. So does MGS3 suck or not?

 

[Troidal]

So what was up with the poor sales? Too hardcore? Or the crazy ending in MGS2 made others shy away from the series?

For me, the limited camera angles made it barely playable. The whole new camera in Subsistence may change the way I see this game.

 

[JayFro]

Seems you're not the only one. I hate when conventional wisdom on a game changes so rapidly. So does MGS3 suck or not?

Well if the camera angle is the same one used as the first and second game it sounds like MGS 3 needs to get a serious gameplay update. I enjoyed MGS 1 on PS1 and purchased Substance for Xbox and I'll at least rent MGS 3 if it ever hits Xbox, but I'm really not expecting that much. The people have spoken in the States, word of mouth on this game couldn't have been that great because it certainly hasn't hit sales targets and won't match the sales of MGS 2 in the USA.

 

[JayFro]

So what was up with the poor sales? Too hardcore? Or the crazy ending in MGS2 made others shy away from the series?

For me, the limited camera angles made it barely playable. The whole new camera in Subsistence may change the way I see this game.

I said it once, and I'll say it again.............MGS 2 had too many cutscenes and talking and not enough action. Gamers want to play games, not watch them for 10, 20, or 30 minutes at a pop. Hardcore gamers don't have a clue what casuals really enjoy unless they game with casuals.


One of my casual gamer buddies came over and I had him watch me play Substance for a little bit on Xbox and I gave him my copy as a gift. He started the game, played it for a few hours and hasn't picked it up since (6 months later......) and he still hasn't picked it up since. MGS 2 left a bad taste in peoples mouths because it just wasn't a fun game for most people

 

[BigBoss]

So what was up with the poor sales? Too hardcore?

If selling over 3 million copies worldwide is low sales... :lol

 

[Rorschach]

I should have waited...still haven't played it ><

/me glares over at it.

 

[capslock]

Man, I had never played an MGS game before Snake Eater. Now that I have just finished I have to say this rates as perhaps the top game experience ever on the PS2. Graphics, storyline, gameplay, everything was amazing in Snake Eater, especially the storyline...this game singlehandedly bitchslaps every Spinter Cell game in existance, if not every PS2 game in existance. One of the top 5 games of this generation IMHO.

 

[ourumov]

Do they ship to Europe ?

 

[Sho Nuff]

Graaa!!! Rrr...aaagh...cra...crab battle!

 

[Solid]

Do they ship to Europe ?

I don't think so. Buy it at Play.com! They have it for £17.99 delivered!

 

[human5892]

I really want this, but I'm holding out for Substance. Hopefully I don't get screwed somehow.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I love MGS3. I beat it back when it came out, and I started it up a few days ago again, just to mess around with the Patriot, and Snake Camoflauge, and stuff like that. It's real good stuff.

 

[norinrad21]

Tempting, but I'll wait for Subsistence. :-X

Whats the difference, i never understood the whole substance non-sense.

It is MGs3 with extras or is there more to it and is is worth waiting? I mean its still mgs3 right?

 

[human5892]

Whats the difference, i never understoon the whole substance non-sense.

It is MGs3 with extras or is there more to it and is is worth waiting? I mean its still mgs3 right?

The biggest addition to MGS3 substance is a new camera. I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff as well.

 

[jenov4]

Fuck the new camera, it's all about that Xray vision that allows you to see through Eva's clothes! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!11one..

 

[human5892]

Fuck the new camera, it's all about that Xray vision that allows you to see through Eva's clothes! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!11one..

:lol That's true, I forgot about that one.

I'D PAY $92 FOR THIS GAME

 

[Wario64]

The biggest addition to MGS3 substance is a new camera. I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff as well.

you forgot ONLINE PLAY

 

[human5892]

you forgot ONLINE PLAY

Hot damn, what DOESN'T Substance have?

 

[El_Victor]

Is Subsistence PS2 only? I would love to play it on the PC with a Splinter Cell-like camera.

 

[Attack You]

I'm stoked for some versus battles. Sniper stand-offs like the one with

Spoiler

The End

are going to be fucking sick.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Is Subsistence PS2 only? I would love to play it on the PC with a Splinter Cell-like camera.

Seems to be PS2 only. Kojima's already shot down the possiblity of a Xbox version because he doesn't want to slow down the development of MGS4 too much.

 

[El_Victor]

Seems to be PS2 only. Kojima's already shot down the possiblity of a Xbox version because he doesn't want to slow down the development of MGS4 too much.

Aww.. such a waste on good multiplayer.

 

[bud]

I read somewhere that it was going to include mg1 and mg2 (the original ones), is there any truth to this?

 

[SolidSnakex]

I read somewhere that it was going to include mg1 and mg2 (the original ones), is there any truth to this?

Yep they'll be in there. Along with the movie theatre, boss battle, online, and according to 1up, those little funny movies Konami's been releasing on their site for the game.

 

[Phoenix]

I'm sure Kojima is crying and wiping the tears away with many American dollar bills.