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http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4198
A mystery animal identical to the Elmendorf Beast has been found in Lufkin, Texas, approximately 300 miles northeast of Elmendorf, where the first animal was shot in May. Photographs of both animals make it clear that they are virtually identical. Whitley will be talking about it with Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM, Saturday, Oct. 15 at 10 pm Pacific.

At this time, it is known that the animal is canine, but no species has yet been identified.It is apparently not a wolf, coyote, or any known breed of dog, unless the animal has some sort of bizarre and profound disease. It is not an exotic creature like a thylacine, an Australian marsupial wolf. It has also been speculated that the animal might be a muntjac, a small deer species. But the muntjac has hooves, not claws, and does not have a long tail. Another creature that has been brought up is a rare Peruvian dog, the Peruvian Inca Orchid, which has a similar tail.

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Like the Elemendorf Beast, the animal did not bleed upon being shot. It, also, appeared to be in a state of necrosis, although it had just died. Both animal's skin is blue-gray and appears to be covered with mange. The creature has a pronounced overbite and four enormous caninines. San Antonio Zoo biologist Terry DeRosa speculated that "It may be one of the hairless dogs that perhaps you see in Mexico." However, at twenty pounds or more, it is much larger than the Perro pelon mexicano, the Mexican hairless, which comes in miniature and standard sizes. In addition, the exaggerated canines and extremely long claws are not characteristic of any known breed of dog.


Where can Coast to Coast be streamed online? And by "Saturday, Oct. 15" does it really mean today or tomorrow?

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Grizzlyjin

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It looks like some type of dog that has been shaved. I bet it has some type of disease that caused it to lose all it's hair.

My weiner dog could have taken that thing down anyway. Send us to Mexico, we'll catch your Chupacabra. We're cheap and violent.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Creepy. I'd love to know more when they learn anything.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Cool, so if the Lufkin thing is supposed to be on at 10pm pacific, I guess I'm staying up to listen at 1am over here. Damn... and I need to get up at 6am.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
It looks like some type of dog that has been shaved. I bet it has some type of disease that caused it to lose all it's hair.
Yeah, that's one big possibility. Interesting that there seems to be such a community of them appearing, though.

Dan said:
Creepy. I'd love to know more when they learn anything.
When the results of the DNA analysis of the first creature are done I'll be sure to bump this or make another thread on it unless someone else does so first.

ManaByte said:
www.kogo.com in San Diego streams it.
Much thanks.

RiZ III said:
What do they mean it didn't blead, its got its guts shot out.
They say when shot they didn't continue bleeding on the ground, though. That's the detail that sounds the most out there, though.

Dan said:
Cool, so if the Lufkin thing is supposed to be on at 10pm pacific, I guess I'm staying up to listen at 1am over here. Damn... and I need to get up at 6am.
I THINK it's on tomorrow. The Coast to Coast site doesn't specifically mention when they'll be talking of this, but it does say George is on tonight, and the story specifically mentions Art.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
I live in Maryland and they taped one of these things here. Nobody knows what the fuck they are, though. It's really goddamn bizarre.

It looks like a rat/dog mutant.

I find it weird that there are a lot of reports of these things in the Southwest and ONE in Maryland. Something is very, very weird about this all.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
JoshuaJSlone said:
I THINK it's on tomorrow. The Coast to Coast site doesn't specifically mention when they'll be talking of this, but it does say George is on tonight, and the story specifically mentions Art.
Hmm, maybe. It's confusing since it says Saturday, which is when Art Bell will be on doing something about NASA and Mars stuff, but it also says the 15th.

Oh, and here's another story with a bunch of pics and info:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=808&category=Environment
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
yoshifumi said:
it's probably just some dog with a disease

It doesn't quite explain the sightings in Califorina and Maryland, though. In Maryland, they believe it to be a fox with mange. It's weird.
 
ChumsGum said:
It's already proven to be some sickly fox/coyote that has lost all its hair.

Something like that seems very likely, but where is it proven? The DNA analysis of the first that was shot hasn't been completed yet, and the new one is... new.


No offense to the guys here saying they think it's a dog or a coyote or something... but if there are veterinarians and zoo biologists who aren't positive by looking at it, I wouldn't be saying "case closed" just yet. Maybe these are the coyotes mutilating cows with laser precision. ;)


Even if it is something as simple as a diseased/mutated coydog, it's still an object of interest. Is it something little known that just by chance has made a big splash? Something new? Is it really so widespread so as to see these afflicted canines from coast to gulf to coast, or are some things getting lumped together that shouldn't? Are these really responsible for a lot of chupacabra sightings, and if so why is it only now that they're getting shot and seen in daylight?
 

Dragmire

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This is obviously alien experimentation. I guess the aliens just released a bunch of these things on us recently. Let's fight back with Michael Jackson.
 
Just a bump for those interested in listening to this on Coast to Coast. The show's already on, and this segment should be within the hour. The kogo.com stream is working great for me; the link is on the top right of their main page.
 

Krieg

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While the creature itself is weird enough to catch anyone's eye, the fact that they bleed so little when shot is what really bothers me. I've seen pictures of animals that have been shot in the head / eye, and they bleed a HELL of a lot more than that little bit of red on each of those animals.

I'm not sure what they are, but the fact that vets and zoologists are puzzled is a bit weird, too.
 

Pimpwerx

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It's a load of bull. Hasn't that picture been circulating for a while now? That or it's file footage of the last "chupacabra" that was "found". All these geniuses have time to shoot and photograph one of these things, but no one has bothered to set a simple trap to try and catch one live? Meh, sounds like a load of bologna to me. PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
It's a load of bull. Hasn't that picture been circulating for a while now? That or it's file footage of the last "chupacabra" that was "found". All these geniuses have time to shoot and photograph one of these things, but no one has bothered to set a simple trap to try and catch one live? Meh, sounds like a load of bologna to me. PEACE.
FoneBone said:
I can't believe people actually believe this bullshit.

What is not to believe? It's not as if edge places like Earthfiles, Unknown Country, or Coast to Coast are the only ones covering this... they just hold back less on speculation. These are actual dead creatures that are being studied. About catching one live: in fact the guy who killed the first one tried setting up a trap but it didn't catch anything. He then saw it in the distance eating some mulberries, thought it was a starving dog that had been killing his chickens, and decided to off it. Two cases is hardly "all these geniuses", either. Were they supposed to know they'd be coming into contact with a strange-ass critter and be fully prepared to catch one for scientific study? Now that there have been several killed and more sightings, though, I think it not unlikely one will be caught live, since people are actually looking for it.

For those wondering, we didn't really learn anything new on Coast to Coast a few nights ago. About an hour before the show Art called Whitley Strieber to confirm that everything was ready... and as it turned out Whitley's wife had just collapsed with what turned out to be an aneurysm, and he's been at the hospital pretty much since. Art said he thought Whitley might have had some details from the DNA testing that's been done on the first one, but there's no confirmation of that yet.
 

way more

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RiZ III said:
What do they mean it didn't blead, its got its guts shot out.

They mentioned it had signs of necrosis "the localized death of living cells," - hyperdictionary. And as we've been tought by too many detective movies, dead things don't bleed.

So what the fuck, undead rat-dog? I'm stocking up on flame rounds and magnums.
 
A bit of a letdown.

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4204

Elmendorf Creature DNA a Puzzle
20-Oct-2004

Unknowncountry.com has received word from the laboratory doing DNA studies on the Elmendorf animal, the strange creature killed near Elmendofr, Texas, last May, that the DNA is canine, but that it has been subjected to too much stress to tell anything about a specific species.

At this time, we are seeking to get them additional DNA from the Lufkin creature.

The animal was known to be canine from the configuration of its skull. The exact species remains a mystery.

For reminder, the Elmendorf one had been buried for some time before anyone attempted to get samples of it; the guy didn't want to get infected with anything, nor did he want to infect the food in his freezer.
 

Claus

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JoshuaJSlone said:
A bit of a letdown.

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4204



For reminder, the Elmendorf one had been buried for some time before anyone attempted to get samples of it; the guy didn't want to get infected with anything, nor did he want to infect the food in his freezer.

So in 3 months(from the time it was shot to the time the samples were sent in) the DNA was completely deteriorated from the tooth and bone that was sent in? If scientists in Cheddar, Britian can suck the DNA from a 9000 year old skeleton and match it with a current living relative then I think some scientists can do the same with this animal.
 

Overseer

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Claus said:
So in 3 months(from the time it was shot to the time the samples were sent in) the DNA was completely deteriorated from the tooth and bone that was sent in? If scientists in Cheddar, Britian can suck the DNA from a 9000 year old skeleton and match it with a current living relative then I think some scientists can do the same with this animal.


Scientists run out and try to clone it amazing.mpeg
 
Claus said:
So in 3 months(from the time it was shot to the time the samples were sent in) the DNA was completely deteriorated from the tooth and bone that was sent in? If scientists in Cheddar, Britian can suck the DNA from a 9000 year old skeleton and match it with a current living relative then I think some scientists can do the same with this animal.
*shrugs* Or they fabricated two corpses, fooled the Texas media, and lied about doing DNA tests.
 

Mejilan

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Hideos. But, at least it proves that The Princess Bride wasn't just a movie, but real life as well.

ROUS!
 
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