SolidSnakex
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Kon Tiki said:
I didn't say they weren't, but you really don't seem interested in them anyway so its kind of pointless.
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I didn't say they weren't, but you really don't seem interested in them anyway so its kind of pointless.
sonycowboy
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AniHawk said:
Sony just happens to name their regions like that. I don't know that we've ever gotten a great breakdown of what countries each region encompasses.
Japan - Japan, Korea, (other Asian countries?)
Europe - Europe, Australia, New Zealand, ???
US - US, Canada, ???
sonycowboy said:
Oh.
Do we even know what systems are out in Mexico?
Find older Sony reports (like 2001 or 2002. Anything prePSP) and see if they say the same thing as this one. If you think they should mention retail, then there must be something you've seen to compare it to, right?
Considering Sony don't have an 'other' section in their figures, it does kinda stand to reason that they must account for all shipment figures in those three categories (there would be a mammoth discrepancy for the PSTwo and PSOne figures otherwise). It's just a bit strange that they only clarify the breakdown for 'Japan'.sonycowboy said:
Look, I don't see why we are having this shipment conversation again.
It's a well known fact that Sony shipped numbers are far far higher than sold through.
Japan does include Asia for Sony and not for Nintendo, but that still goes no way to explain 4.2m shipped vs 2.6m sold. It will take until well into 2006 for all those machines to be sold through. The Europe number is a mop-up for all other regions (excluding Asia for Sony).
It's a well known fact that Sony shipped numbers are far far higher than sold through.
Japan does include Asia for Sony and not for Nintendo, but that still goes no way to explain 4.2m shipped vs 2.6m sold. It will take until well into 2006 for all those machines to be sold through. The Europe number is a mop-up for all other regions (excluding Asia for Sony).
Kurosaki Ichigo
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You're right (when 15m are sold, there'll be 20m shipped or more so no prob XD) but...ioi said:
...that 5.20m for Europe is very weird. Weird if we take that 2.35m for Europe. Thats 3m difference while 2m for USA in USA only . No Canada, no Asia markets...Australia isn't that big. Going with that 800k PSP in UK + those 5.2m in Europe.....I think the real number should be more than 2.35m here. Maybe really near to 3m.
Anyway, I'm more impressed at 1000m games for PS2 and japanese DS shipments = sold :lol
I'd like to see Microsoft Xbox360 shipments...
Panajev2001a
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AniHawk said:
Ani, you are wrong those are not units manufactured, they are unit "thought of"
.You see, Hirai wakes up one morning... thinks.... "aaah I feel like a million PSP's today guys" and there you have thier new monthly numbers
.Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
You're forgetting my country ; ;ioi said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1886477&postcount=372
Its PS2 marketshare (which should be pretty similar to PSP one)
PS2 installed base Western Europe - As of May 2005 (Eyeball numbers from a graph chart)
Region Units MarketShare
UK 7,150,000 27.82%
France 4,000,000 15.56%
Spain 3,900,000 15.18%
Germany 3,600,000 14.01%
Italy 3,000,000 11.67%
Scandanavia 1,900,000 7.39%
Other 2,150,000 8.37%
Totals 25,700,000
Taking 800k from UK as 28% of total PSP...3'5m. But anyway, Germany 500k should say that both France and Spain are over it. Lets say 550k each. Thats 2'4m minus Italy, Scandinavia and Others.
lochnesssnowman
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Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Comes to 2.85m if you use the 28% figure from UK as the base and extrapolate out. UK probably sits nearer 1m now, so I imagine it's around or just over the 3m mark as of now.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Maybey this has been said already, but:
Technically, a company can claim a product is "sold" when they sell inventory from one sub-company to another. i.e., Sony JPN sells+ships 1 milllion units to the American division, SCEA. Whether that's what's going on with Sony' fubared PSP numebers, I dunno.
Technically, a company can claim a product is "sold" when they sell inventory from one sub-company to another. i.e., Sony JPN sells+ships 1 milllion units to the American division, SCEA. Whether that's what's going on with Sony' fubared PSP numebers, I dunno.
Earthstrike
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Ani, you are wrong those are not units manufactured, they are unit "thought of"
You see, Hirai wakes up one morning... thinks.... "aaah I feel like a million PSP's today guys" and there you have thier new monthly numbers .
QFT
Frankfurter
Member
ioi said:
It was the other way arround, 500k for France, but we don't know the numbers from Germany
Btw. didn't Sonycowboy (afaik) say that we would also get updated user base numbers for Europe?
I was looking at the pdf and noticed you didn't break it down by GBA, GBASP, GBM so here they are.ioi said:
GBA
Japan: 9.55m
NA: 16.68m
Other: 8.81m
Total: 35.03m
GBASP
Japan: 6.35m
NA: 20.40m
Other: 10.64m
Total: 37.40m
GBM
Japan: 0.57m
NA: 0.47m
Other: 0.78m
Total: 1.82m
meltpotato
Member
soundwave05 said:
although this is true, i think its still an important comparison to show that MS really didnt give the xbox its true market life and that could be a pretty big mistake in the long run. that said, if you compare xbox sales while active to gc sales while active, when it is all said and done, xbox will have definitely out performed the GC worldwide.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Why was ioi banned anyway?
I think it was because of the following thread.John Harker said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=83635
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Ahhh, I didnt see that thread.
Now I get it, haha
Yea, it's much safer to stay neutral and just making assinine comments every now and then around here :
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Now I get it, haha
Yea, it's much safer to stay neutral and just making assinine comments every now and then around here :
:JoshuaJSlone
Member
Two problems with that comparison. One is that the $180 PS2 / $100 GCN is the period where GCN sold best compared to PS2. Another is that PS2 was always by far the market leader. If DS is ahead or they stay pretty even in the meanwhile, I don't think the price point either has 2.5 years after launch is going to tilt things significantly. Their relative positions in the market will have pretty much been determined.monkeymagic said:
I think it's important to look at the GBA/GBASP split when considering the true size of Nintendo's GBA market. Out of the 74.25 million GBA's shipped, 35.03 million were the original model and 37.40 million were the SP. When you think about the number of people that upgraded from the GBA to the SP I could see the real size of Nintendo's GBA market being only about 45-55 million.
BTW the GB/GBC split from that thread a year ago was 69.42/49.27.
BTW the GB/GBC split from that thread a year ago was 69.42/49.27.