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DS
Japan: 5.70m
NA: 4.63m
Other: 4.10m

Total: 14.43m

GBA
Japan: 16.47m
NA: 37.55m
Other: 20.23m

Total: 74.25m

GC
Japan: 3.98m
NA: 12.00m
Other: 4.64m

Total: 20.61m

PSP
Japan: 4.20m
USA: 5.81m
Europe: 5.20m

Total: 15.03m

PS2
Japan: 22.83m
USA: 40.99m
Europe: 37.55m

Total: 101.37m


PS1
Japan: 21.59m
USA: 40.78m
Europe: 40.12m

Total: 102.49m



SOFTWARE

DS
Japan: 18.50m
NA: 17.13m
Other: 10.76m

Total: 46.40m (tie ratio 3.22)

GBA
Japan: 68.89m
NA: 177.54m
Other: 72.88m

Total: 319.31m

GC
Japan: 26.64m
NA: 118.06m
Other: 39.67m

Total: 184.36m

PSP
Japan: 7.8m
USA: 16.8m
Europe: 9.5m

Total: 34.1m (tie ratio 2.4)

PS2
Japan: 193.0m
USA: 460.0m
Europe: 349.0m

Total: 1002.0m


PS1
Japan: 286.0m
USA: 372.0m
Europe: 303.0m

Total: 961.0m
 
I believe Nintendo said their numbers are sold.

Sony's numbers are really inflated though ... PSP is way behind 4 million in Japan.
 
cvxfreak said:
I hadn't kept up with shipments. I thought the DS would have been ahead.

Maybe Lite will change that. :)
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I just meant that whenever you see "shipped", it should be known that 9 times out of 10, Sony's will be higher. ;)
 
soundwave05 said:
I believe Nintendo said their numbers are sold.

Sony's numbers are really inflated though ... PSP is way behind 4 million in Japan.
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As I've said before:

Nintendo "shipped" = 1.05 * sold
Sony "shipped" = 1.50 * sold

You have to recognise that difference when looking at these numbers.
 
Kon Tiki said:
Stores do not buy products if they are not selling. All those PSPs will be sold.
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no, they just sit on store shelves collecting dust, while retailers request more for no apparent reason.
 
Clearly Nintendo will never ever ever ever go the way some folks want them to. Look at those software sales, its just madness.

warchest is probably at 30 billion by now
 
I was speaking strictly of shipments to begin with, not sales. I think 4.20m PSPs in Japan for Sony is still a while off. ;)
 
I don't think Sony will sell 4+ million PSPs in Japan until summer.

The retailers must have an insane amount of PSP stock, or Sony may be citing numbers shipped to their warehouses or something.
 
:lol

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ioi said:
GC
Japan: 3.98m
NA: 12.00m
Other: 4.64m

Total: 20.61m
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So, does anyone have the shipping numbers for the Xbox?
(~22m iirc?)
I still think the Gamecube will be able to catch up, assuming Twilight Princess won't be moved to the Revolution.
 
Acrylamid said:
So, does anyone have the shipping numbers for the Xbox?
(~22m iirc?)
I still think the Gamecube will be able to catch up, assuming Twilight Princess won't be moved to the Revolution.
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MS threw the X-BOX "momentum" into a brick wall...GCN will surpass it worldwide when all is said & done.
 
If the GC does surpass the XBox ... (which I still have doubts about) why would that really be anything to crow about?

Clearly the XBox outsold the GCN by a clear margin worldwide when it was an active platform.
 
I think when it's all said and done, which will be in 2007, they will be tied. Xbox sales have stopped in Japan almost completely, while GameCube is active *enough* there, and it seems that the US has skewed toward the GC's favor for the moment. No clue about Europe though. Then again, in the US Xbox may pull ahead of the GC like it did at the beginning of 2004, but I think people are generally more interested in 360s at this point.
 
XBox is really no longer an active platform, so making comparisions to the GCN is kinda silly.

It's like playing basketball against a corpse and getting all riled up about winning because you couldn't win when the guy was alive. :lol
 
soundwave05 said:
XBox is really no longer an active platform, so making comparisions to the GCN is kinda silly.

It's like playing basketball against a corpse and getting all riled up about winning because you couldn't win when the guy was alive. :lol
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Come on, it outsold the 360 in December. It's inactive for the most part but not dead. :D
 
soundwave05 said:
XBox is really no longer an active platform, so making comparisions to the GCN is kinda silly.

It's like playing basketball against a corpse and getting all riled up about winning because you couldn't win when the guy was alive. :lol
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The GC is hardly taggable as 'active' either. The release schedule is probably significantly more sparse than Xbox in the coming months.
 
Xbox can not be caterogized like previous consoles. Until Xbox is emulated 100% on 360, XBL will keep Xbox 'alive' well past the final release for the system.
 
soundwave05 said:
XBox is really no longer an active platform, so making comparisions to the GCN is kinda silly.

It's like playing basketball against a corpse and getting all riled up about winning because you couldn't win when the guy was alive. :lol
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But this is their problem not Nintendo's or Reggie's :lol
 
The difference is MS really isn't manufacturing XBoxs in significant quantities anymore, nor are they actively marketing the system anymore ... on top of the fact that they're making no more games for it.

There are some third parties still making some titles for it, but its a dead platform for all intents and purposes.

GameCube is not.
 
In Europe the Xbox is just as populair as in the States, the Xbox 360 is even more populair over here.

The GameCube will eventually catch up to the Xbox sales probably, but the question is: Does it, at that point in time, still matters? I think it wouldn't even matter if they would catch up today, the battle was lost. And besides that, the Xbox is in Europe still 150 euro (about 175 dollar) and the GameCube is 69 euro (about 75 dollar). I don't know the exact prices in the States, but if they are quite the same, it seems to me it's obvious that the GameCube will sell more in the long run. Especially since new Xbox consoles are getting hard to get your hands on.
 
As a retailer I don't even think you can order XBox's from MS in big quantities anymore.

From what I've heard MS has a small stock laying around that they're trickling out to hold over retailers who still want more systems.

Well the other thing is GameCube sales generally are very slow from Jan-June anyway ... and this year it'll be even worse.
 
SolidSnakex said:
The sales sure don't don't reflect that.
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Like I said, it's hard to get your hands on it these days. In most shops they don't even sell Xbox systems anymore. I think in the UK, The Netherlands and Germany it is by far more populair than the GameCube.
 
If the revolution has true BC with gamecube why wouldn't it kill off sales any less than the 360 did? Not to mention shitty ass BC capabilities of 360 and stupidly functional modding make the original Xbox still pretty attractive, I doubt it will be passed up in the end. The GC's been at $100 with a free game since when? 2002? Man it really is amazing how bad that thing has done.

Anyways, where's the press article on 15 million PSPs sold?
 
Son of Godzilla said:
Anyways, where's the press article on 15 million PSPs sold?
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These numbers are about shipped consoles, not sold. There weren't 15 million PSPs sold, so no article.
 
ioi said:
As I've said before:

Nintendo "shipped" = 1.05 * sold
Sony "shipped" = 1.50 * sold

You have to recognise that difference when looking at these numbers.
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Oh! by that psp is over 3.4m on Europe ^_^
 
elostyle said:
We've been over this. Sony's "shipped" means "produced". Doesn't even mean sold to retailers.
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Are you serious? I must've missed that thread.

:lol Oh, Sony.

What's the point of even counting Sony's numbers then. They're not even "shipped" numbers.

I mean is Sony next going to start giving out numbers based on how many Kutaragi is thinking about manufacturing or how many their factory lines could theoretically assemble?
 
soundwave05 said:
Are you serious? I must've missed that thread.


:lol Oh, Sony.
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I believed people started calling it about a month after the US launch, when Sony claimed to have shipped 5-6 million.

The top two DSes appear to be sold, but "other" territories must be shipped. 1,000,000 in the UK is believable enough, but an additional 3 million for the rest of PAL? C'mon.
 
soundwave05 said:
I mean is Sony next going to start giving out numbers based on how many Kutaragi is thinking about manufacturing or how many their factory lines could theoretically assemble?
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If true, the same strategy was used throughout PSOne's and PS2's lifetime.

Did they over produce those consoles or did the retail orders and consumer sales mop it all up?

Whatever it is - Sony is producing/shipping to meet anticipated demand based on retail data and pricing data (projected and historic) they have at their disposal months in advance and which neither you nor I are privy to.
 
SolidSnakex said:
So do people actually have proof that they're doing that?
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Proof as in sony making a press release saying "All our numbers are just produced." No. Proof as in them calling them "production shipments" which is explained to be units that left the production facility in footnotes in financial reports that I've seen, yes.

If that's not enough, there's always that whole few-million-over-actually-reported-sales kinda thing.
 
SolidSnakex said:
So do people actually have proof that they're doing that?
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Well it kinda says it farily clearly in their financial reports:

"*Production shipment units of hardware and software are counted upon shipment of the products from manufacturing bases. Sales of such products are recognized when the products are deliered to customers."

Do Sony have shipment warehouses between the manufacturing bases and customers or do the orders ship directly from the manufacturing bases to the customer? The former means that there's no correlation between customer demand and unit production, and the latter means that we're seeing in-line demand but the figures are a few weeks/months in advance of when they arrive at their destination.
 
AniHawk said:
ioi, it would be helpful to list the sources of your numbers next to them (SCEI and such for Sony).
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Sony for Sony and Nintendo for Nintendo.

Latest financial reports out today and can be found on their respective japanese websites.
 
AniHawk said:
Okay. Just wondering if you were using MC or NPD for one or the other. Haven't seen Nintendo's around here.
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Check out nintendo.co.jp

Investor relations in english at the bottom of the page and hey presto!
 
PS2 software sales are rather spectacular. 1,000,000,000 is a pretty large order.

I wonder why Sony lists USA and not NA?
 
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