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Lebron James Ethers Charles Barkley
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Losing to bad teams on its own isn't really a big issue, as even great teams have their down games. But Cleveland has lost to the Mavs, Kings, and Pelicans over the past week. It's one thing losing to the Spurs and the Warriors, but those other teams likely jockeying for lottery position? Having defensive issues against that level of competition is the real problem.
Uno Venova
Banned
The same? Him and the crew always do topics like this and analyze personalities. It's one of the more interesting subjects of the NBA.
jongkookie
Member
Hey come on now, we're not just shitty... we're underrated shitty.
Also I wonder how much LeBron hates Dirk and the Mavs lol. I know after 2011 he went on a massive crusade in kicking our ass but after last night? Getting beat by some kid named Yogi and Wal-Mart Curry? Man, that must've been the tipping point hence the ethering of Chuck lol.
Wonder if Bron is playing the villain because he is getting ready to leave again?
Weird because he was beloved after bringing the Cavs the title and you would think he would try to keep that vibe as long as possible. The Warriors were supposed to be the villains this year but Lebron is acting like a spoiled baby these past few weeks as his team struggles.
It's weird.
Weird because he was beloved after bringing the Cavs the title and you would think he would try to keep that vibe as long as possible. The Warriors were supposed to be the villains this year but Lebron is acting like a spoiled baby these past few weeks as his team struggles.
It's weird.
Is an NBA championship the end all be all of being able to give analysis?
Everyone keeps saying "oh but Barkley never won".
Yea? And?
Neither did Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, Dominique Wilkins, John Stockton, Allen Iverson, etc etc.
Barkley is still a hall of fame player who many regard as a top 15-20 player of all time. This isn't some bench player or scrub giving advice.
Hell, Kenny "Jet" smith sits next to Barkley on TNT and has 2 rings yet most wouldn't even consider him a top 50 player of all time. But I guess those rings makes him more qualified despite him being the 3rd/4th best player on those teams that won.
Fenderputty
Banned
Chuck isn't wrong and this is Bron Bron's feels lashing out. If Tossing out personal low blows because he can't take BBall criticism is "ether", the you all can enjoy your high.
"We're not in a rivalry with GS" but then continues to publicly shit on his team (that he built) and ownership (who is already paying the most per year due to the team Bron built) because he sees the incoming L.
Most passive aggressive man baby ever
"We're not in a rivalry with GS" but then continues to publicly shit on his team (that he built) and ownership (who is already paying the most per year due to the team Bron built) because he sees the incoming L.
Most passive aggressive man baby ever
Stabby McSter
Member
fixed :>
You don't see those people constantly criticizing current players and how they're ruining the game though.
GravityInsanity
Member
It seems to me that Barkley was going after LeBron basketball wise when it comes to the roster, while LeBron came at Barkley personally. I dislike Barkley, but what he said was true. No matter how good Westbrook, KD, or Curry have been playing recently, LeBron is still the best player in the world and complaining that he wants more key players is just silly to me.
FallingEdge
Member
baby LeBron once again.
Dood gets called out so he choose to retaliate with personal attacks.
Dood gets called out so he choose to retaliate with personal attacks.
SyenceLabb
Member
Dark LeBron is BACK!
Fenderputty
Banned
Uhh yeah Reggie Miller makes money off of his commentary too.
Following this shity train of logic the only people who shoukd have authority to criticize Trump are past presidents.
mckmas8808
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Great point. Except in this example LeBron is the "great" team in their prime with the Heat and Cavs, so you'd think Chunk would sit back and try to understand that their perspectives on these things will always be different.
Chuck was going at the King in the 90s to win a ring. LeBron is the King. There's levels to this.
Lebron may see a chance to build a better team elsewhere. All good GMs do the same.
Just went through some CB clips and this thing about big San Antonio women is hilarious
https://youtu.be/1KWvMyO9iyI
https://youtu.be/1KWvMyO9iyI
BadAss2961
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They don't just have a decent roster, they have the best roster other than one team over in the other conference. They're top heavy, but that's a super team for you. Miami was the same thing.
Golden State is the only exception since they drafted a core that panned out in spades then added KD. Steph still isn't getting paid.
Infernostew
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Not really. It's called a deflection and when you do that it means that the other person is right and you have no reasonable response to the issue at hand.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
His job is analysis, and he's absolutely awful at it.
Ninja Scooter
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Analysts call out players when they suck at their job, why can't players do the same?
Asking for a point guard when you have you the likes of Shumpert and Dleaguers is "playing the villian". Never knew.
It's not ether when you do it out of insecurity. The quotes have Barkley calling him the best player in the world and amazing and crediting him for his accomplishments. But he's a "hater" ?
Also, dude is still hung up on the posse thing? Emotional isn't even the word. He absolutely IS being ridiculous when he makes public demands of his GM who has been pushed into a logistical corner in large part due to silly demands by who? Lebron. We must re-sign JR Smith! Tristan needs a max extension! But he's not the GM, he's just the "new sheriff in town" lol. Make water into wine and squeeze blood from a stone, NOW! ...so sayeth Lebron.
Saying all of that, I have stood up for Lebron for most of his career, LeDecision aside. But a duck is a duck and he's clearly letting some sort of outside (of basketball) issue affect his demeanor this year. Here I thought Steph was the softest superstar.
Also, dude is still hung up on the posse thing? Emotional isn't even the word. He absolutely IS being ridiculous when he makes public demands of his GM who has been pushed into a logistical corner in large part due to silly demands by who? Lebron. We must re-sign JR Smith! Tristan needs a max extension! But he's not the GM, he's just the "new sheriff in town" lol. Make water into wine and squeeze blood from a stone, NOW! ...so sayeth Lebron.
Saying all of that, I have stood up for Lebron for most of his career, LeDecision aside. But a duck is a duck and he's clearly letting some sort of outside (of basketball) issue affect his demeanor this year. Here I thought Steph was the softest superstar.
mckmas8808
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No you can tell LeBron felt disrespected by how mad he got.
Imagine acting as your teams leader, primary playmaker, and putting in more minutes than anyone else when you play a game with your team
Dude is obviously frustrated he has to effectively be the Cavs PG and SF at the same time and just wants someone else to help alleviate the stress when he's not on the court, the Cavs have lost every game without him this season I think. Or they just won one or two.
His bbiq is higher than anyone else in the league, must be annoying to have no one think on your wavelength about plays and then you get blamed for everything when the team fails.
Barkley has Kobe above Bron in his top 5
That shit is beyond asinine
Don't know why 90s Basketball GAF out here defending the donut king
CrispyBoar
Banned
Lesson to be learned: Don't fuck with people like LBJ. They'll chew your asses out.
Dreams-Visions
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I don't think LeBron James lacks in security, credibility or self-esteem.
He hasn't said anything about Chuck despite Chuck prodding him for well over a decade and at every opportunity. This was simply a more elongated way to say, "shut the fuck up" without running into FCC violations and fines.
Not every idiot is worth arguing against. After all the reasons have been outlined, if someone still wants to say dumb shit, I see no actual issue with reminding them what their qualifications and history really are.
It's just...I'd rather he not take the bait because the haters and fanboys will line up accordingly.
FWIW, if you're ever on Chuck's side of an argument, you're probably on the wrong side of the argument.
Pupperbabysassy
Member
That rant came off as childish on Lebron's part. He is supposed to be the face of the league. Barkley's called the Warriors midgets for five years now and said he will never respect their brand of basketball. You don't see anyone else from that organization taking cheap shots about Barkley as a human being.
mckmas8808
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Sometimes Chuck can be really bad at his job. Saying Lebron doesn't want to compete for a championship is one of those stupid things Chuck said.
And while analyzing personalities, sometimes people like Chuck need to be "checked" every once and awhile. Don't live in your glass house throwing stones.
Legit only lebron is held to these standards of upholding the leagues image and people still complain
He does and has done an excellent job of representing himself and the league let the dude defend himself for the metric ton of shit he gets on a daily basis
Barkley is an entertainer, as is Shaq. And sure, the Cavs would look a lot better with a solid backup PG. But that doesn't mean LeBron is in the right to publicly demand that his GM pull a rabbit out of a hat. Nobody wants to hear that.
Ninja Scooter
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I'm disappointed we haven't gotten photoshops of LeBron dressed like Woody from Toy Story tho
Gotdatmoney
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Barkley is bitching about Lebron always and his desires to get rings. Barkley couldnt even win a ring, what the fuck does he know about what it takes to reach that level? He never did it. So when he is doing his higher than thou shit about new players it gets old. Like you're a loser. You never knew how to get it done, stop constantly criticizing someone who does.
Chuck doesnt fucking know anything about basketball. I wish people would stop perpetuatimg that because he is funny he is worth taking seriously. He isnt. The guy needs to be put in place sometimes.
mckmas8808
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This is when you know someone doesn't actually watch basketball lol.
Stabby McSter
Member
you could've probably a few months ago. but with his team all over the place, he's probably under a lot of stress so now he's just poppin off all over the place now
mckmas8808
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Dreams-Visions
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Whatever encourages the phone calls to be made means LBJ played his cards right. It's not about what you feel the correct way of doing things is; it's about getting shit done. If LBJ believes the front office isn't hustling on this issue and that him strategically voicing his concerns to the media will further motivate the powers that be to make one extra phone call that night, it was WORTH. Welcome to politics 101.
I don't see the problem at all. These are grown ass men, not kids. All highly paid, I might add.
Dreams-Visions
Member
was your first mistake.
It really isnt. Its mostly baseless drivel. Bro-phsycology ia probably the worse thing to develop in sports broadcasting. I dont know why every tom dick and harry wants to now pretend like they actually know how people they never meet think but its corny to the nth degree. People should stick to reading box scores.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Let me guess.....you love Barkley for being an A-Hole in those times huh?
Randolph Freelander
Member
Stop wondering. He agreed to a 3 year deal in the offseason.
As for the vibe, he wants to keep winning. Yes, the Cavs re-signed all the players LeBron wanted. Thompson and JR Smith got paid. Shumpert, too. In the meanwhile, they lost front court depth with Mozgov and backcourt depth with Delly and Mo Williams (whose retirement was apparently not expected). It is therefore fair to an extent to say that this is LeBron's chosen roster, but it's not completely fair to lay it all on him.
They have an open roster spot, and they have holes to fill. Yes, they're over the cap, but they have trade exceptions. It's not unreasonable for a player, particularly one of LeBron's stature, to say "plug the holes," and the luxury tax isn't his problem.
I'm going to side against Barkley on this one. He's still my favorite "analyst," though.
Pupperbabysassy
Member
I agree. Robert Horry has more rings than Jordan, Kareem, and Magic, but obviously is not 1/4 the player that they are. Rings are great, but with basketball players and QBs there is too much focus on winning it all, which in a team sport is not something that an individual player has ultimate control over.
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