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[Orayn]

They'll become relics of distant past. Icons on an inferior species, the last of the kind up for show in zoos.

The augmented 'human' of the future will be to us as we are to neanderthals.

Electronic OLD-men?

 

[Pollux]

mobile suits, exoskeletons, power armor, armored cores, mech warriors, make them happen

Fuck me, i want a gundam. now.

 

[hteng]

Primitive exoskeletons are been developed already... but why would you want a slushy human inside a robot suit, when you can just have a robot to begin with?

it's cool to pilot a robot, and whose to say in the future we won't have enhanced humans/cyborgs that could interface directly with the suit/robot? When in the future resources are limited, you would want to conquer the land instead of bombing it, so i think it's feasible.

and humans would never really allow fully autonomous robots, control is always human's nature.

 

[The Technomancer]

and humans would never really allow fully autonomous robots, control is always human's nature.

Dude if you put a button that ended the world in the middle of a cave in Tibet and wrote above it "absolutely do not push" the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.

 

[Zaptruder]

it's cool to pilot a robot, and whose to say in the future we won't have enhanced humans/cyborgs that could interface directly with the suit/robot? When in the future resources are limited, you would want to conquer the land instead of bombing it, so i think it's feasible.

But why use a biological weak link to control the robot? Just have an AI that interfaces directly with it; if human oversight is required for reasons regarding morality - then surely they could be connected via wireless connections ala the drones of today.

It's just a relic of wish fufillment that we'd even want to make these sorts of things - they don't serve us tactically or strategically.

Besides, we can safely assume that other facets of technology will continue to advance a rapid pace - we can get all the wish fufillment of piloting giant robots in our VR simulations. Of course in the context of the world with AI robot mechas, human piloted mechas might be a little steam-punk anachronistic. We just accept it coz it's cool, even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[Vandiger]

Let me know when a house cleaning robot is launched, having to clean up after my cats is a fucking drain.

 

[Pollux]

But why use a biological weak link to control the robot? Just have an AI that interfaces directly with it; if human oversight is required for reasons regarding morality - then surely they could be connected via wireless connections ala the drones of today.

It's just a relic of wish fufillment that we'd even want to make these sorts of things - they don't serve us tactically or strategically.

Besides, we can safely assume that other facets of technology will continue to advance a rapid pace - we can get all the wish fufillment of piloting giant robots in our VR simulations. Of course in the context of the world with AI robot mechas, human piloted mechas might be a little steam-punk anachronistic. We just accept it coz it's cool, even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

You missed the control argument, didn't you?

 

[Khal_B]

Robot That Can Learn, Think And Act By Itself

Tea-making robots ftw.

 

[hteng]

Dude if you put a button that ended the world in the middle of a cave in Tibet and wrote above it "absolutely do not push" the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.

lol: well that button shouldn't be there in the first place if all humans aren't self destructive

 

[Zaptruder]

They'll become relics of distant past. Icons on an inferior species, the last of the kind up for show in zoos.

The augmented 'human' of the future will be to us as we are to neanderthals.

Is there any desire to retain our own humanity?

 

[Pollux]

Is there any desire to retain our own humanity?

why?

 

[Zaptruder]

You missed the control argument, didn't you?

If human oversight is required - then have it be remote.

I did actually post before he stealth edited the second line in, but I did cover it as part of my own post anyway.

 

[Slavik81]

It's amazing how simple some of the unsolved problems are. A closed form solution to moving a robotic arm with rotating joints in a straight line? Doesn't exist!

Of course, humans probably move their arms in straight lines via numerical approximation too, but still.

 

[Zaptruder]

why?

Because then we start bumping against unsettling questions about the meaning of things.

If we can augment and change ourselves to the extent that... we no longer retain a shred of the things that we once thought of as human (our bodies, our emotions, etc) - we become something else entirely - a universal consciousness for example...

Is that a path we really want to go down? If we can see it coming now, would we allow for such an eventuality? If not, then what can we do to safeguard against the extinction of the compelling aspects of humanity? Can we have both? Transcendental evolved 'omniscience' and humans that have chosen not to be folded into this thing?

Is this some crazy seemingly sci-fi shit that we'll probably have to think about before too long? Yes...

 

[EatChildren]

Is there any desire to retain our own humanity?

The monkeys who wish to stay as monkeys can do so.

 

[Slavik81]

 

[Complex Shadow]

MAKE ME A METABEE:

AND I WILL BE ITS IKKI WE WILL BE FRIENDS

Rokusho>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosser dog>>>>>metabee

 

[BorkBork]

Went to an informal talk a couple months ago with a cute mechatronics engineer with a philosophy background working on "Anything & everything Roboethics." Pretty interesting stuff, but she didn't have much of a chance to articulate the subtler points due to some really cranky old nerds who have no social skills.

Here's her web database on stuff surrounding robotic ethics.

 

[MilesWebber]

Some amazing Robot Personality Simulator stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45gQFdmzr_0

 

[Scrow]

robots look after all the mundane things for us while we focus on the fun stuff, like sex, drugs, and rock n roll. seriously, what else are we going to do with all that time?

 

[Orayn]

robots look after all the mundane things for us while we focus on the fun stuff, like sex, drugs, and rock and roll. seriously, what else are we going to do with all that time?

Colonize Mars with the power of sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll.

 

[Scrow]

Colonize Mars with the power of sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll.

robots will do that for us too just so more people can have sex, drugs and rock n roll when earth gets too crowded

 

[Tawpgun]

 

[Scrow]

They'll become relics of distant past. Icons on an inferior species, the last of the kind up for show in zoos.

The augmented 'human' of the future will be to us as we are to neanderthals.

this already exists in our society.

they'll be like the amish

 

[TurboLibre]

Human augmentation and eventual symbiotism with robotics is the future. You cannot resist.

Sign me up!

 

[sans_pants]

yo check this shit out

http://www.kurzweilai.net/stanfords-free-intro-to-ai-course

 

[Missle59]

Did someone ask for mechs?