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[nitewulf]

*just finished it*
im so glad that
**spoiler**
they didnt have a physical relationship, as that would have RUINED the movie. sophia coppola portrayed a fantastic emotional relationship without the physical baggage. and the visuals (scarlett johansson included) were utterly amazing.
**spoiler**

edit: damn spoiler tags!!

 

[Ronin]

Damn, that movie sucked.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Damn, that movie sucked.

BANNED 4 LIFE

 

[Socreges]

Beautiful movie. I must buy it.

 

[way more]

Bring all you got haters, I'm ready for the bi-monthly fight.

 

[nitewulf]

Damn, that movie sucked.

 

[fart]

beautiful cinematography but a soulless, bourgeoise film in the marxist possible sense of the word

 

[tedtropy]

beautiful cinematography but a soulless, bourgeoise film in the marxist possible sense of the word

You got a purdy mouth mister. :lol

 

[impirius]

Would've been better if Bill Murray's character didn't actually

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cheat on his wife with someone else

, IMO

 

[Socreges]

beautiful cinematography but a soulless, bourgeoise film in the marxist possible sense of the word

"I know those words, but that makes no sense."

Sounds like you're criticizing the fish-out-of-water motif, but could you elaborate? I'm curious.

 

[nitewulf]

beautiful cinematography but a soulless, bourgeoise film in the marxist possible sense of the word

well i wouldnt say soulless. its more akin to movies from the golden era of hollywood, when romance reigned over sex. this movie portrays an ideal rather than truth, so yeah it glosses over pure humanism.
damn you ppl are hard to please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[karasu]

Hard to please? This forum went gaga over that movie. I dont think it had a center, but the cinematography was unbelievable. She's still one of my favorite young directors.

 

[nitewulf]

i dont know, i avoided those threads, as i hadnt seen it then. but this forum is hard to please in general though.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

I thought the movie was awesome, though I haven't really felt compelled to purchase it. It is on my big list of DVD's that I'll eventually pick up, though.

 

[fart]

no one even commented on my humorous "marxist possible sense" wordplay

it really is too bad the movie is so fucking incredible to look at though, because otherwise you would see why it's a hollow shell of humanism pretty quickly. hint: have you ever thought about how much money it costs to do any of the things in the film?

 

[Scrow]

i think it's one of those movies where you either click with it or not, based your past travel experiences. my family has travelled together a fair bit and we all clicked with this movie.

 

[Socreges]

no one even commented on my humorous "marxist possible sense" wordplay

it really is too bad the movie is so fucking incredible to look at though, because otherwise you would see why it's a hollow shell of humanism pretty quickly. hint: have you ever thought about how much money it costs to do any of the things in the film?

Come on, elaborate on the "bouregeoise film" bit. Or have you chosen to go with nitewulf's more appropriate words?

And the movie could take place in Newark and I wouldn't feel any differently.

 

[fart]

i'm not all that familiar with early 1900s romance films, but unless they were all about rich people feeling sorry for themselves, he didn't get it.

i would also claim that if the movie took place in newark, it would be an entirely different film

 

[Socreges]

i'm not all that familiar with early 1900s romance films, but unless they were all about rich people feeling sorry for themselves, he didn't get it.

i would also claim that if the movie took place in newark, it would be an entirely different film

I'm talking in terms of you abandoning your description before and adopting consideration of "humanism". Are you not going to explain what you had meant or what?

And of course it would be a different film in Newark. It couldn't possibly be the same. My point was that you suggested that we were all stupid enough to be taken in by the beautiful scenery and didn't see it as you did (, oh remarkable man). Please.

 

[RobotChant]

beautiful cinematography but a soulless, bourgeoise film in the marxist possible sense of the word

You too? I would add that the soundtrack carried the movie. Felt the same way about The Virgin Suicide.

 

[fart]

I'm talking in terms of you abandoning your description before and adopting consideration of "humanism". Are you not going to explain what you had meant or what?

And of course it would be a different film in Newark. It couldn't possibly be the same. My point was that you suggested that we were all stupid enough to be taken in by the beautiful scenery and didn't see it as you did (, oh remarkable man). Please.

nitewulf said he thought it was very humanistic and i said that i thought there was a shell of humanism but that it was a very thin shell, and ultimately it is empty and soulless bourgeoise romanticism. i'd hardly say that you have to be stupid to disagree with me.

as far as explaining my earlier comments, is there really anything to explain? it's a movie with very little, and remarkably classist perspective. ie, it's about some rich people doing rich stuff and ultimately looking sad because of the constraints of rich decorum and so on. i think it's too bad they couldn't hook up and shag each other's brains out like shuri and his arcadian neighbors, but them's the breaks kids.

LOOK AT THE INSIDE JOKE! YOU HAVE TO LOVE ME NOW!

 

[White Man]

I agre with fart. You all are dumb.

I feel bad though, because nitewulf is one of my favorite posters.

 

[Socreges]

nitewulf said he thought it was very humanistic

He did? I thought he agreed with you --> "so yeah it glosses over pure humanism."

as far as explaining my earlier comments, is there really anything to explain? it's a movie with very little, and remarkably classist perspective. ie, it's about some rich people doing rich stuff and ultimately looking sad because of the constraints of rich decorum and so on. i think it's too bad they couldn't hook up and shag each other's brains out like shuri and his arcadian neighbors, but them's the breaks kids.

LOOK AT THE INSIDE JOKE! YOU HAVE TO LOVE ME NOW!

"remarkably classist perspective" <--- better! That I understand. The word "bourgeoisie", for me, is much more specific and I wasn't sure how it applied to the film.

At any rate, yeah, they were unhappy rich people. But, so? You can still be lonely, lost, and depressed when rich. The movie then became about their relationship with a variety of societal circumstances surrounding them. It was simple, but penetrating; very well executed.

 

[fart]

He did? I thought he agreed with you --> "so yeah it glosses over pure humanism."

oh shit. my b dudes.

 

[Zensetsu]

I have to agree with Fart there......Damn purdy cinematography but the plot, and the performances just diddn't do it for me.....but i've allways kind-of disliked Bill Murray.

 

[Timbuktu]

No comparisons with In the Mood for Love yet?

 

[fart]

except that in the mood for love succeeded where lost in translation failed, no.

 

[Suerte]

My folks didn't like this film and so, if you don't like it, you're old.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

her feet are so cute in this movie.






*backs away*

 

[RobotChant]

No comparisons with In the Mood for Love yet?

I thought about it, but I didn&#8217;t want to bog down the discussion with an unnecessary comparison.

 

[Bebpo]

No comparisons with In the Mood for Love yet?

That would be like comparing a fine steak at a gourmet dinner to the burger of the week at Mcdonalds.

Not that LiT isn't a very a good movie, just you can't compare the two.

 

[nitewulf]

hint: have you ever thought about how much money it costs to do any of the things in the film?

i did! that is the thing. they were staying in a hotel that probably cost $500 a night! but i just had to overlook those aspects. here is why i am usually lenient on these movies, when the market is saturated with crappy sequels and movies (fast and the furious, torque and whatever else) in general, someone who tries to do something a bit different, and with more depth should be praised.
well in my view anyway, but i'm used to watching crappy bollywood films, thats why whenever something even remotely decent comes out, i'm highly impressed.

 

[Drozmight]

I agree... this movie is awesome.

 

[JasoNsider]

This remains to be one of the few movies that really made a strong impact on me. I saw it when it first came out, having no idea what it was about. Everything from the music to the characters made a strong emotional impact on me. She almost made it feel like you were also in this strange land and having these strange feelings like the characters were. I honestly believe that the impact came from the whole package. The music, writing, cinematography, and the performances of the cast all came together to make an incredible experience. The end result was greater than the sum of its parts.

This movie also stands as a great example of why I see films on their first runs in the theater on opening night. If you wait too long, you stand the chance of having your experience tainted by popular consensus. Walking into this movie before there was even a buzz gave me a huge surprise, and as such, left me in a state of semi-shock for the following weeks.