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[KiteGr]

The Hitman game idea always fascinated me, but it looks like all instalments untill now struggled to make it a reality. The old games often had very few solutions and clunky controls, while Absolution was very linear and the disguise idea of all similarly dressed people instantly knowing you wasn't properly thought. With the recent "soft reboot" trilogy they seem to finally got the formula down.

I recently Jumped to the World of Assassination game, namely Hitman 3 that was updated and renamed to include the first two instalments and patched functionalities of endless replayability. The only thing missing is some expansion pass of Hitman 2 and it's two new areas. Otherwise it's an insane package to get!

We are talking here endless hours of content!
Each of the 3 instalments had about 6 massive areas with multiple targets and a dozens of ways to get rid of them. Some scripted, some not. Each kill could be as easy as pressing a button, but each area is literally often flooded with potential witness NPCs, so a straight approach will often leave you with a bad score, a room full of corpses and/or dead. The best scores are reserved for the hits that look accidental and nobody knows you where ever there.

Agent 47 gets lost in each disguise he assumes, though it's hilarious how seriously he takes each role, while he deliver each line full of hidden deadly remarks.


This is how the Hitman games should had been from the very begining.

 

[Gonzito]

Love these games. I have hundreds of hours in them.

 

[Sentenza]

Modern classics.

 

[Windle Poons]

I keep meaning to start this, had it for years, just something holds me back each time.

Think it's the thought of fucking something up 90% into a mission and having to start it again because someone walked down a corridor they weren't supposed to and fucked everything up.

 

[KiteGr]

I keep meaning to start this, had it for years, just something holds me back each time.

Think it's the thought of fucking something up 90% into a mission and having to start it again because someone walked down a corridor they weren't supposed to and fucked everything up.

The game has a very forgiving save system.
It autosaves mid mission in multiple slots and you can also manually save relatively quickly.

 

[Connificent]

Came in expecting Kupfer

 

[Larxia]

I only played the first one, and it was fun enough but I always had a bit of a weird feeling with them. I don't know how to explain it, there is something lacking a bit in the gameplay, something that kind of make it feel more like a point n click rather than a stealth game. Maybe because they're "meant" to be replayed with different paths, which isn't something I really like to do in general.

Still cool games, but another big issue with them is... just buying them and knowing what you buy. It's always been incredibly confusing to get into these games, with all the different packages, editions, dlcs, endless confusion. They said they would make it easier to get into with the third when they renamed it, but it looks to be even worse than before. Apparently now if you buy hitman 3, you just buy a demo of the game? Super confusing.

 

[Paasei]

My favorite franchise. You'd be surprised how many options there in the older games, too. Especially for their time.

But yes, the replay value is endless here. There's contracts, challenges, freelance and what I personally like a lot: Hitman Roulette. In roulette the targets do not change, but what does change are the methods disguise and weapon. Do this with the Silent Assassin rating, and you can get a good challenge. In de speedrun community we have contests from time to time with this, too. Great fun all around.

Good to see you enjoy it, but considering it's mostly aimed for multiple runs, it's not for everyone.

The worst thing about the current trilogy is the way to buy it. Too many packs and you almost need a degree to understand what's included.

 

[Baemono]

I played all the levels several times, fantastic game

 

[digdug2]

I keep meaning to start this, had it for years, just something holds me back each time.

Think it's the thought of fucking something up 90% into a mission and having to start it again because someone walked down a corridor they weren't supposed to and fucked everything up.

This is why I didn't become a hitman in real life. That abd the fact that I can't even play AAA games with blood abd gore while the family is still awake.

 

[CowboyLou]

I don't know how to explain it, there is something lacking a bit in the gameplay, something that kind of make it feel more like a point n click rather than a stealth game. Maybe because they're "meant" to be replayed with different paths, which isn't something I really like to do in general.

I kinda get what you're saying here. I finally tried these games recently, didn't know much about them previously and was surprised to find they're essentially puzzle adventure games. I do actually enjoy replaying games and I love immersive sims, but these games are something fundamentally different. Couldn't get into 'em at all. They're definitely some well-crafted games, though. Pretty impressive level design.

 

[GudOlRub]

The old games often had very few solutions and clunky controls

Blood Money already solved this issue and is the best Hitman experience to this day still imo.
I remember vividly the first time I played Curtains Down, realizing all the different ways you could kill your targets, you could switch a pistol and have a NPC kill your target, you could impersonate said NPC and kill the target yourself, you could poison the target when he was back stage, you could blow up stage lights to make them fall on your target. It was insane at the time.

The notoriety system and AI were also better in BM compared to World of Assassination.

But I do agree that WoA is a way more polished and user-friendly experience. If I were to play these games for the first time today and played WoA first I don't know if I would appreciate Blood Money as much as I do.

Also, every time I talk about WoA I feel obligated to shoutout the "Apex Predator" level, one of the best Hitman missions I've ever played, it's so fucking good.

 

[Larxia]

I kinda get what you're saying here. I finally tried these games recently, didn't know much about them previously and was surprised to find they're essentially puzzle adventure games. I do actually enjoy replaying games and I love immersive sims, but these games are something fundamentally different. Couldn't get into 'em at all. They're definitely some well-crafted games, though. Pretty impressive level design.

I do really like Immersive Sims too, but here I don't know, it doesn't feel the same to me, I wouldn't call them immersive sims. You have a lot of choices but you're still "restricted" by the gameplay.
You're right, they mostly feel like puzzle games actually.
Some of the level design is pretty cool though you're right, I did spend quite some time in Sapienza.

 

[Kupfer]

Came in expecting Kupfer

It's still at the top of my list, the PSVR2 is still connected and ready to go.
I had actually planned to buy and play it this month, just like NEVA. Unfortunately, my car is causing trouble right now and needs to go to the workshop in the next few days. I have to wait for an estimate first and see if I can still afford some gaming luxury this month.

 

[The Cockatrice]

One of the best immersive sims of all time.

 

[CHEROKEEE]

It's still at the top of my list, the PSVR2 is still connected and ready to go.
I had actually planned to buy and play it this month, just like NEVA. Unfortunately, my car is causing trouble right now and needs to go to the workshop in the next few days. I have to wait for an estimate first and see if I can still afford some gaming luxury this month.

...revisiting this on PSVR2 was a true relevation for me - I´ve known all the locations from previous playthroughs in and out already but now I actually got to ´VISIT´ those places for the first time - it almost felt like finally traveling to a country, you´ve only known from TV documentaries before...

 

[Arachnid]

These really are some of the best stealth games of all time, up there with the best of Thief, Metal Gear, and Splinter Cell. Unreal that they exist to me.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

These games are REALLY good but I'm entirely too OCD for them. I got about 10 hours in and had to stop. It sounds weird but it's...too open, too many choices for me. I get like a paralysis of choice thing and I end up not having fun because I wonder if I should reload and try different approaches bla bla.

It sounds crazy because I am fucking crazy.

 

[R6Rider]

AMAZING game(s).

The VR is fantastic too (at least PSVR2 version).

 

[mayham2199]

I was shocked at how good these games are and no one seemed to really be talking about it.

 

[Soodanim]

Tried new Hitman 1. First stage. Decided that rat poison in the drink would be a good way to go. Where would rat poison be? In the underground level were rats are going to be, logically. Eventually gave up, quit the game, googled it, and found it's on some twat in a kitchen upstairs. Wasn't exactly an encouraging start.

Haven't gone back to it yet, but on paper it's my sort of game.

 

[ChoosableOne]

I didn't know it included almost all of the first two game. Looks like it's time to check it out.

 

[KiteGr]

I didn't know it included almost all of the first two game. Looks like it's time to check it out.

If you buy it now as "The world of Assassination" and assuming you won't buy the suspiciously named "part one" package you'll get almost all 3 games. The expansion for Hitman 2 is sold separately for some reason.

If you had bought Hitman 3 before the name change, you might need an upgrade pack that includes the first 2 games.

 

[Ceadeus]

I would buy on Switch 2 but it's a 61GB game-key card release ...

 

[Deerock71]

Playing through them on Switch 2 right now. I suck lol.

 

[ChoosableOne]

If you buy it now as "The world of Assassination" and assuming you won't buy the suspiciously named "part one" package you'll get almost all 3 games. The expansion for Hitman 2 is sold separately for some reason.

If you had bought Hitman 3 before the name change, you might need an upgrade pack that includes the first 2 games.

Part 1? Wtf, IO?

I found this.

 

[winjer]

I only have 100 hours in this trilogy. Such a noob.

 

[Lokaum D+]

These games are REALLY good but I'm entirely too OCD for them. I got about 10 hours in and had to stop. It sounds weird but it's...too open, too many choices for me. I get like a paralysis of choice thing and I end up not having fun because I wonder if I should reload and try different approaches bla bla.

It sounds crazy because I am fucking crazy.

I m like you, but this game has some thing called challanges, do the map challanges and move to the next one, its how i play Hitman.

 

[Killer8]

Not only excellent games, it's live service done right.

 

[Durin]

The move away from Hitman Absolution's linearity to the degree of freedom of choice they give you was really great, and I'm hopeful their 007 game will retain at least some of that since the trailers so far feel very "cinematic" in making gameplay feel it will be limited and scripted.

 

[mayham2199]

The move away from Hitman Absolution's linearity to the degree of freedom of choice they give you was really great, and I'm hopeful their 007 game will retain at least some of that since the trailers so far feel very "cinematic" in making gameplay feel it will be limited and scripted.

I think 007 is essentially going to be this but yes, way more scripted. 007 is more action so there will be action set pieces. I imagine they will have a scenario you can approach however you want but once you accomplish that goal leaving will involve killing a ton of people.

 

[Durin]

I think 007 is essentially going to be this but yes, way more scripted. 007 is more action so there will be action set pieces. I imagine they will have a scenario you can approach however you want but once you accomplish that goal leaving will involve killing a ton of people.

I don't mind having more overt action or some cinematic moments, I just don't want it to be on-rails all the time, or the stealth to feel like a tacked on section like in Uncharted. Hopefully they can find a good balance, because they are the closest to gameplay-wise giving that feeling that I'm a secret agent accomplishing my mission without anyone knowing I was even there.

 

[mayham2199]

I don't mind having more overt action or some cinematic moments, I just don't want it to be on-rails all the time, or the stealth to feel like a tacked on section like in Uncharted. Hopefully they can find a good balance.

I agree I'm hoping for a good balance as well. Also hoping the action is done well since I don't do action at all in their Hitman games.

 

[Jesb]

I have never seen a game so confusing on what the price is for the game. I see steam advertise this sometimes on some super sale but it ends being a starter pack or something. I have yet to play this game but did really enjoy the last one. It's definitely on my list of games to try out on my new steamdeck.

 

[Gp1]

I have never seen a game so confusing on what the price is for the game. I see steam advertise this sometimes on some super sale but it ends being a starter pack or something. I have yet to play this game but did really enjoy the last one. It's definitely on my list of games to try out on my new steamdeck.

I bought the first one (Hitman 2016) and Hitman 2 (2018) and i still don't know what i have to buy to complete the collection.

From that list i believe that part one is Hitman 1 (2016), Standard edition is Hitman 2016 + Hitman 2 2018, and Deluxe Edition is Hitman 1, 2 and 3 2021.

 

[Paasei]

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Amazing games. I still need to go back and finish 3 and platinum it. It's on the backlog, such fun sandboxes. I can't wait for the 007 game as well, I have faith in IO.

Tried new Hitman 1. First stage. Decided that rat poison in the drink would be a good way to go. Where would rat poison be? In the underground level were rats are going to be, logically. Eventually gave up, quit the game, googled it, and found it's on some twat in a kitchen upstairs. Wasn't exactly an encouraging start.

Haven't gone back to it yet, but on paper it's my sort of game.

The whole point of these games is really to go through the stages multiple times and work out the different deaths and scenarios.

It's a really interesting gameplay loop and you can save before you take out a target and then go on multiple paths. You get to know the level and the patterns and where things are placed and you start to get very efficient. These are reallly special games in this day and age I think. Extremely good value.

 

[Von Hugh]

I played Hitman 2 from 2002, Blood Money and Absolution. Really liked them.

For some reason this "new trilogy part 1 part 2 starter pack world of assassination trilogy but not really it's one game put into three separate parts whatever" fuckery rubbed me the wrong way, so I never bought the games. I played the first two starter missions, but that's it.

 

[Rocinante618]

Finest games ever made, super smooth, super slick experimental gameplay, breathtaking locations, masterfully hand crafted level design, often funny but always fun. Freelancer is even more fun. Also I'm a huge sucker for the XP pops you get when you just do anything Hitman.

Just a small nitpick: fucking online only kinda sucks

 

[FoxMcChief]

I would buy on Switch 2 but it's a 61GB game-key card release ...

I'll buy it on a deep sale.

 

[Ceadeus]

I'll buy it on a deep sale.

A good game is a good game. It just sucks that the console is 256gb. Do you own one of those express micro SD?

 

[Soodanim]

Amazing games. I still need to go back and finish 3 and platinum it. It's on the backlog, such fun sandboxes. I can't wait for the 007 game as well, I have faith in IO.


The whole point of these games is really to go through the stages multiple times and work out the different deaths and scenarios.

It's a really interesting gameplay loop and you can save before you take out a target and then go on multiple paths. You get to know the level and the patterns and where things are placed and you start to get very efficient. These are reallly special games in this day and age I think. Extremely good value.

Don't get me wrong, I played the tutorial level during a free weekend and enjoyed it. Lots of options. But having wasted that much time searching for the poison that was in a nonsensical location (I even checked the grounds in case it was in a gardener's shed) I was deflated and a little annoyed.

 

[calistan]

Just a small nitpick: fucking online only kinda sucks

I've never understood the reason for the online thing. It plays exactly the same offline, except you don't get access to any of your unlocks, so maybe it's purely so they can sync your save. At least it's more stable now than it was in the early days of Hitman 1, when it was always disconnecting.

I played Hitman 2 from 2002, Blood Money and Absolution. Really liked them.

For some reason this "new trilogy part 1 part 2 starter pack world of assassination trilogy but not really it's one game put into three separate parts whatever" fuckery rubbed me the wrong way, so I never bought the games. I played the first two starter missions, but that's it.

Seems a little self-defeating. Just get the deluxe edition and you're done.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Don't get me wrong, I played the tutorial level during a free weekend and enjoyed it. Lots of options. But having wasted that much time searching for the poison that was in a nonsensical location (I even checked the grounds in case it was in a gardener's shed) I was deflated and a little annoyed.

Yeah, things are not always where you would assume them to be in real life. Some of it is very "gamey"

 

[KiteGr]

Just a small nitpick: fucking online only kinda sucks

From my experinece you can still play it offline, but it disables the chalenges, which are half the fun.