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LTTP: The Spectacular Spider-Man

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I've always been a big Spider-man fan, ever since I was a kid in the nineties collecting Venom pogs (I think I still have those somewhere), but as I got older, I read less and less comic books. The last one I followed issue to issue was Ultimate Spider-man (all the way from the beginning) and dropped it after Jeph Loeb shat on the Ultimate universe with Ultimatum. Never really got back into it, and have kind of ignored pretty much everything Spider-man related.

Including this show! Which was wrong on my part. I had heard good things about it, but never got around to it, and it just slipped out of my mind. But I finally watched it after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 kickstarted my Spider-love back into existence by sucking so much and realizing what a wasted potential it was.

And I have to say, I was not expecting it to be as good as it was. It was awesome--probably up there as one of the definitive Spider-Man works as far as I'm concerned.

It most closely resembles the early Ditko and Romita era comics, which I think are still some of the best Spider-man stories out there and hold up surprisingly well for how old they are. The Spectacular Spider-Man does a stand-up job of adapting the original themes and story and character arcs while updating them to modern sensibilities and including a lot of the best later era classics in a marvelously seamless fashion. Venom in particular is well handled and fits right in with such disparate stories like the Colonel Jupiter episode that you would think he's a classic Stan Lee character himself.

But even following the classic Spider-man arcs so closely it still manages to twist them in such a way they still end up keeping an old Spider-fan's attention. Like, they actually managed to pull off the mystery of the Green Goblin's identity in a way that had me second guessing myself.

The art doesn't look like much in stills but its simplistic nature helps it really sell the fight scenes, which are usually very easy to read and just plain fun (though the conspicuous CGI for the more complex vehicles was a turn off, kind of ruined the final battle in the last episode).

Though if there's one main criticism I have of the show is that sometimes the fight scenes themselves can go on for too long, occasionally taking up too much of the show's focus when at a crucial moment in Peter's social life which is sometimes offered too little focus and as such can feel to move at a much slower pace. The back and forth with Peter and Gwen in the second season is a little maddening because of this.

Gwen herself is probably the most disappointing character in the show as she doesn't really ever seem to do much. We're told she's Peter's best friend, but we're rarely offered any insight into why. I mean, I liked it when she had a more central role in episodes, but it happens too infrequently and instead spends much of her screentime being silently angry at Peter or staring silently at Peter wistfully. Peter's relationship with Liz in the second season felt frustrating due to her feeling like a roadblock for Gwen that just would not go away, which I suppose isn't really fair to Liz, but it was the show's creators' faults for dangling that Gwen plot in front of the viewer at the end of season 1 and then continuing all through season 2.

But then again, that can all fall back onto the show's main problem that was absolutely no fault of the creators'--being cancelled after only two seasons. I want more, damn it, and it ends at such a frustrating point. Some of the plots felt satisfyingly enough concluded (Sandman's was fine, for instance), but a lot was left at a critical moment. Black Cat hated Spider-man's guts, Norman Osborn had faked his own death, Harry was obviously starting down his dark path, Gwen and Peter were still not together despite Peter dumping Liz (and now she's angry at him), and they were clearly setting up the Clone Saga for season 3, which is the biggest thing I think I'll miss.

Anyway, that's my big ramble on The Spectacular Spider-Man. Pretty depressing knowing that there will almost certainly never be a Spider-man show this good in the future. But it was a lot of fun while it lasted.
 
Good write up, it's far and away the best Spiderman cartoon. I much preferred the art style in this one compared to Ultimate Spiderman.
 

Shaanyboi

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Greatest piece of Spider-Man-related media ever created. Loved the characters, the voice talent, Sean Galloway's art design, the choreography, the arcs, the quips....

This show not getting a third season is outright robbery. It was so fucking good.
 

Sephzilla

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This is probably the best animated superhero cartoon since Batman TAS in my opinion. It's a shame this show got cut down too soon.
 
The art style is simplistic, but I think that helps to make the animation so fast and fluid.

My only consolation after losing this show is that Weisman went on to do Young Justice, but then that got canned, too.
 

JBourne

maybe tomorrow it rains
Best animated Spidey show. Also best Spidey voice actor. Josh Keaton is great. Impressive IMDB page, too. Dude has done a ton of work in games and comic stuff.

It's a crime that this died for Ultimate Spider-Man, which had a really rough first couple seasons. Season 3 has been okay so far, but it still doesn't compare to Spectacular.
 

coy

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The art style is simplistic, but I think that helps to make the animation so fast and fluid.

My only consolation after losing this show is that Weisman went on to do Young Justice, but then that got canned, too.

It's sad enough to be reminded of the loss of one great animated show and now YJ is brought up. Having only two seasons for each series is a shame.
 
Agreed, this is a great show. After he was a glorified underling in Spider-Man: TAS, it was great seeing Doc Ock demonstrate why he's considered one of Spidey's main villains, with him consistently acting like a leader. And it's still amazing how they had everyone doubting themselves about the identity of the Green Goblin.

Concerning the romance with Liz in season 2, I actually quite liked her portrayal in the series, though the transition from stuck up cheerleader to wanting to jump Peter's bones wasn't exactly smooth.
 

Penguin

Member
Well never hid from my love of this show

Not only the best Spider-man cartoon, but easily the best Marvel cartoon/animated project in general.

And a catchy as hell theme song
 
It's sad enough to be reminded of the loss of one great animated show and now YJ is brought up. Having only two seasons for each series is a shame.
Since you bring it up, Gargoyles got aced after two seasons, as well. I don't think I expect any Weisman show to last longer than that anymore.
 
The sad part is that, as far as I can tell, this series was canceled solely due to Disney buying Marvel and not wanting to continue any previous television commitments.
 

Raxus

Member
Quip reel? Quip reel.

It is such a shame this show got axed for Loeb's crap. One of the best superhero cartoons and one of the two Marvel cartoons I'd actually recommend to others. It sucks because so much superhero show bad news came around that time new. Young Justice and Green Lantern essentially getting canned. Loeb taking over the animated division at Marvel, etc.
 

Wiseblade

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The sad part is that, as far as I can tell, this series was canceled solely due to Disney buying Marvel and not wanting to continue any previous television commitments.

The way I heard it, Marvel wanted to reclaim all their film and animation rights after the success of Iron Man. Sony refused to give up Movie Spidey but gave up the animation rights. Marvel planned to create an "animated universe" that drew inspiration from their films and comics, so Spectacular was cancelled.
 
Man, they set up Carnage and Hydro Man and we never got to see it.
So many set ups for villains we will never get to see paid off.

-Cletus Kasady's brief cameo in the asylum and then Eddie Brock, sans symbiote, being sent to the asylum.
-Morris Bench randomly showing up.
-Norman Osborn can be heard talking to Mac Gargan on the phone in the final episode, saying the "check's in the mail."
-Roderick Kingsley's a minor focal point of one episode, guy is clearly more than he lets on.
-Harry's pretty clearly on his way to becoming a villain.
-Miles Warren is this close to becoming the Jackal.

I wonder, had season 3 been made, if the last episode would have been the conclusion of the original clone saga, with the seeming "death" of Warren and the maybe clone. It's fun but disheartening to imagine what could have been.

Agreed, this is a great show. After he was a glorified underling in Spider-Man: TAS, it was great seeing Doc Ock demonstrate why he's considered one of Spidey's main villains, with him consistently acting like a leader. And it's still amazing how they had everyone doubting themselves about the identity of the Green Goblin.

Concerning the romance with Liz in season 2, I actually quite liked her portrayal in the series, though the transition from stuck up cheerleader to wanting to jump Peter's bones wasn't exactly smooth.
Dr. Octopus's appearances as a villain in the first season were kind of disappointing--one just to set him up, the other as the leader of the Sinister Six but the episode was more about the symbiote than anything else. But the Master Planner story was so great that he totally made up for it. I almost kind of wish he didn't show up in the latter part of the season because I felt like his final appearance in the Master Planner story was such a great way to end it--he got away, but he was so thoroughly defeated after such a high stake plan that it felt like it could only go downhill from there. But seeing him dressed in a suit and cape at the opera was worth it.

I will agree Liz's transition wasn't very well done. Sally Avril's mild warming up to him in the police ridalong episode was more believable, I have no idea what flipped the switch in Liz's mind.
 

dan2026

Member
Probably the best animated show Spider-man will ever get.

And it was cancelled to be replaced with shit.

This is why I never get invested in American cartoons anymore.
 
Just finished this series tonight. There needs to be a season three almost as much as Young Justice needs one. This series pretty much nails every aspect of Spider-Man, from Peter himself to the Bugle to the supporting cast at his school. They also manage to take one of the best rogue's galleries in comics and make them even better. Venom feels like a real part of the Spidey mythos instead of a leftover piece of the extreme nineties that never found its core.
 
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