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[TintoConCasera]

Hey, I've been playing Titan Quest for the past few days and had a lot of fun! Did the base game, Immortal Throne and the DLCs Atlantis and Ragnarok.

It's a cool ARPG, but probably way too simple for today's standards. I ran a conqueror (warfare + defense) and it was a lot of fun, just shield bashing and charging into enemy groups and turning into a colossus when things got tough. The game at least on normal has been quite easy, with only a few bosses here and there giving me trouble but nothing that couldn't be fixed by sipping a bunch of potions. Once I was done with the game on normal I started another playthrough on epic but it wasn't that much more difficult which was a bit of a bummer.

My favorite thing about the game has been different settings you go through, quite varied and colorful. Greece and Egypt both look pretty cool and I'd say the game hasn't really aged that much, and then Act 3 takes you through many different locations from the Hanging Gardens of Babylon all the way to China. Even the DLCs do a great job with this, didn't expect to visit Spain during the quest for Atlantis lol, and that whole part looks great too. The Ragnarok one starts in a pretty boring but gets way better later on. So yeah, still a pretty cool looking game.

All in all, a pretty easy but still a comfy and fun ARPG. Decided to uninstall in the middle of Act 2 on Epic difficulty before the game takes more of time lol. Might still come back to it in the near future but for now I want to focus on other stuff. Can't wait for Grim Dawn's final DLC to come out so I can give that game a go. Also, a bit bummed to learn that TQ2 isn't done by the same devs, hope they do a good job with it.

Even if it's a pretty simple game (there's no dodge like in modern ARPGs) I'd still recommend it. The game plays really well with a gamepad btw, I played it on the Steam Deck and never had any trouble.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Titan Quest is great, because unlike other arpg's, it's not farming/loot obsessive, as in, press a skill and go one direction and just watch millions of npc's die and drop loot, it's more methodical if that's the right word. Thats why I loved it and that's why I'll probably be day one with TQ2 once it leaves early access assuming they dont mess it up.

 

[Beechos]

Was a solid diablo clone back in the day.

 

[Ozzie666]

Loved the theme and different worlds and gods. Was a great option to Diablo. Was better in some ways too. Class combo system was cool if not flawed with balance issues.

 

[IAmRei]

that's my fave ARPG, spent lot time with it back when i was younger
the theme especially, is kind of rare. which is good IMO

My fave class is same as yours.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Titan Quest is great, because unlike other arpg's, it's not farming/loot obsessive, as in, press a skill and go one direction and just watch millions of npc's die and drop loot, it's more methodical if that's the right word. Thats why I loved it and that's why I'll probably be day one with TQ2 once it leaves early access assuming they dont mess it up.

Yeah whenever I see gameplay of the first Path of Exile it just looks insane to me, just zipping around watching shit die non-stop. Titan Quest can get quite fast later on but I never felt I was "deleting everything" but rather going a bit slower, which is better imo. Stuff like prioritizing targets or avoiding spells makes it more fun.

Grim Dawn has a dodge button. If that means it's more skill based then I'm sure that game rocks.

Was a solid diablo clone back in the day.

I remember the hype back then. "A Diablo game made by former Age of Empires devs!". They sure delivered.

Loved the theme and different worlds and gods. Was a great option to Diablo. Was better in sim ways too. Class combo system was cool if not flawed with balance issues.

Yep the game being focused on different pantheons was a great surprise (I thought it was just going to be Greece lol) and it's a nice excuse to have each act have different enemies. Game is pretty varied and has a ton of content really, it's really good in that regard imo.

Dunno about the balance but yeah, I imagine balancing a multi-class system must be a pain in the ass. But hey it's a single-player game so imo as long as it's fun, it's fine.

that's my fave ARPG, spent lot time with it back when i was younger
the theme especially, is kind of rare. which is good IMO

Have you tried Grim Dawn? I wonder how it compares. The setting is probably not as cool but gameplay wise it seems even slower and more methodical, which reminds me of POE2 and I really liked that one.

My fave class is same as yours.

Hell yeah!

 

[geary]

Yeah whenever I see gameplay of the first Path of Exile it just looks insane to me, just zipping around watching shit die non-stop. Titan Quest can get quite fast later on but I never felt I was "deleting everything" but rather going a bit slower, which is better imo. Stuff like prioritizing targets or avoiding spells makes it more fun.

Have you played Path of Exile 1? If not, this Friday drops an insane patch.
And about the ultra zipping, that's happening only in very end game with a very very strong build.
You can play it normal without insane speed.

 

[StueyDuck]

TQ was my university Diablo alternative for our residencies especially with D3 coming out and dumbing down everything.. it was a lot of fun then but I dont know if it would pull me in now... I should go back and try someday

 

[TanDad25]

Not to stray off-topic, but will this "final dlc" for Grim Dawn come to Xbox? I remember there was some political drama, and talk about it being removed from the Xbox eco system?

 

[StereoVsn]

I do like Titan Quest quite a bit. The difference in settings and enemy variety were really well done. Different classes were fun and I am glad they didn't nerf some of the overpowered builds. The game was a lot of fun.

I was looking at TQ2 which is still in EA I think, but never picked it up. Anyone play that?

 

[TintoConCasera]

Have you played Path of Exile 1? If not, this Friday drops an insane patch.
And about the ultra zipping, that's happening only in very end game with a very very strong build.
You can play it normal without insane speed.

Might check it out if that's the case! Always the game looked ugly as fuck though lol, but with how much I enjoyed POE2 I think I should give the first game a fair chance at least.

 

[An Corp]

Great game and it still holds up by today's standards. The Ancient Greece and Diablo clone part pulled me in back when it released.

 

[SirKicksalot]

I was looking at TQ2 which is still in EA I think, but never picked it up. Anyone play that?

I only played the first chapter at launch but it was awesome. Feels like Titan Quest but the quest structure, skill modifiers and active combat are better. It has the same chill vibe, but it's more engaging to play.

 

[geary]

Might check it out if that's the case! Always the game looked ugly as fuck though lol, but with how much I enjoyed POE2 I think I should give the first game a fair chance at least.

As the best and deep arpg on the market, it deserves a chance at least.

Also, check the Mirage patch 3.28 on youtube

 

[TintoConCasera]

I only played the first chapter at launch but it was awesome. Feels like Titan Quest but the quest structure, skill modifiers and active combat are better. It has the same chill vibe, but it's more engaging to play.

I'd love to try it, but the EA is a bit expensive imo for the content it has (or the content it had on release at least, dunno if they've added more already)

Saw some gameplay and it seems nice, very reminiscent of the first game but way less linear maybe?

 

[DryvBy]

When Titan Quest first came out, it was the last game I ever downloaded. I absolutely loved it after 2 hours of playing. Along with a friend who also downloaded it, we went to Best Buy and just bought the game. I've finished through the game about 3 times now. Total blast of a game.

 

[FudgeIt]

Is this one of those games where you stand still and whack at enemies like diablo II or can you move while you are hitting like PoE2 or the newer Diablo titles?

 

[GymWolf]

Try grim dawn next.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Is this one of those games where you stand still and whack at enemies like diablo II or can you move while you are hitting like PoE2 or the newer Diablo titles?

It's a game from the Stand & Whack genre, with bosses basically being a stat check rather than a test of the player skill. Yeah I prefer POE2 in that regard, but it's comfy to go back to simpler games from time to time.

Try grim dawn next.

I'm planning to do that! Plan is to get the DLCs during the spring sale. Thing is there's another DLC coming out "soon", and I'm debating if waiting for that before diving in or leaving it for a future playthough.

What I like the most about how Grim Dawn looks are two things: how meaty it feels to hit and kill stuff, and the map design being less of a hallway and offering more exploration. Or at least that's how it seems, I've barely tried it.

 

[IntentionalPun]

It's fun but Grim Dawn is a lot better;

 

[FudgeIt]

It's a game from the Stand & Whack genre, with bosses basically being a stat check rather than a test of the player skill. Yeah I prefer POE2 in that regard, but it's comfy to go back to simpler games from time to time.


I'm planning to do that! Plan is to get the DLCs during the spring sale. Thing is there's another DLC coming out "soon", and I'm debating if waiting for that before diving in or leaving it for a future playthough.

What I like the most about how Grim Dawn looks are two things: how meaty it feels to hit and kill stuff, and the map design being less of a hallway and offering more exploration. Or at least that's how it seems, I've barely tried it.

I had to watch a video because I wasn't too sure. Yeah looks like you just stand there and it attacks. It looks silly when you are fighting someone and you are both bashing each other. Not something I am interested in. I am curious if Titan Quest II had changed it.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I had to watch a video because I wasn't too sure. Yeah looks like you just stand there and it attacks. It looks silly when you are fighting someone and you are both bashing each other. Not something I am interested in. I am curious if Titan Quest II had changed it.

That one, as far as I know, has a dodge button.

And it's not silly lol, juts how ARPGs used to be. I too prefer the style of POE2 but older ARPGs can still be fun, even if the challenge is more on making a decent build rather than avoiding enemy damage via button presses.

 

[FudgeIt]

That one, as far as I know, has a dodge button.

And it's not silly lol, juts how ARPGs used to be. I too prefer the style of POE2 but older ARPGs can still be fun, even if the challenge is more on making a decent build rather than avoiding enemy damage via button presses.

No, I know. I am not saying it's silly. To me, it looks silly. I just think I a am more of a modern man of culture.

 

[IntentionalPun]

What I like the most about how Grim Dawn looks are two things: how meaty it feels to hit and kill stuff, and the map design being less of a hallway and offering more exploration. Or at least that's how it seems, I've barely tried it.

Yeah the map feels more like a "real place" than TQ or POE for that matter for some reason. I think it's an art style thing.

And there's lots of different strategies available in Grim Dawn, a lot more than TQ. It has the same foundation, it's the same engine, it allows 2 classes, etc. but the classes are more interesting and there's a lot more loot + other ways to beef up.

TQ2 is pretty good for early access but it's also seriously missing something.

Can't wait for Grim Dawn 1.3 patch + a new DLC coming in the next few months (hopefully.)

 

[Ellis]

Great game. I'm not very good with creating builds in ARPG's, so the simplicity (or forgiveness) of TQ really lent itself to how I play.

As much as I have always wanted to appreciate Diablo 1&2, I hit a dead end very quickly due to poor builds.

TQ and BG Dark Alliance 1 are my jam.
ARPG's for idiot's like myself. I love them.

I could probably beat a game like Sekiro with my eyes closed at this point, but something like Diablo, which requires thought in your build absolutely fucks me up.

I'm probably the only one here with that issue, but it is what it is.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Great game. I'm not very good with creating builds in ARPG's, so the simplicity (or forgiveness) of TQ really lent itself to how I play.

As much as I have always wanted to appreciate Diablo 1&2, I hit a dead end very quickly due to poor builds.

TQ and BG Dark Alliance 1 are my jam.
ARPG's for idiot's like myself. I love them.

Based low IQ bro! And you aren't the only one lol. My problem is that I don't have patience, so upon starting an ARPG you won't see me going through all the classes and skill trees checking what's what and planning ahead, but instead just going with whatever looks cool to me, dumping my stats into whatever and building my character as the games goes but without a clear goal.

It's one of the reasons why I loved POE2 so much. While it's passives tree can feel quite intimidating, the way it's laid out lets you have short-term goals for your character build, plus more long-term goals once you've gotten into it and know what you are doing. Plus a lot of those games let you respec anyway nowadays, or at least I remember being able to easily do so in POE2.

TQ and BG Dark Alliance 1 are my jam.

I've been meaning to try those for a while, the Dark Alliance games and also the Champions of Norrath games which I think are from the same devs.

Yeah the map feels more like a "real place" than TQ or POE for that matter for some reason. I think it's an art style thing.

And there's lots of different strategies available in Grim Dawn, a lot more than TQ. It has the same foundation, it's the same engine, it allows 2 classes, etc. but the classes are more interesting and there's a lot more loot + other ways to beef up.

Damn all that sounds super nice. Basically sounds like "Titan Quest but better". How's the setting like? From afar it looks kinda "medieval-apocaliptic" with a hint of cosmic horror maybe? In any case I think I prefer the setting in TQ but GD looks amazing anyway.

TQ2 is pretty good for early access but it's also seriously missing something.

I remember reading some impressions from gaffers back when it came out and some were disappointed. Apparently it doesn't really feel like ancient Greece or something.

 

[Ellis]

Based low IQ bro! And you aren't the only one lol. My problem is that I don't have patience, so upon starting an ARPG you won't see me going through all the classes and skill trees checking what's what and planning ahead, but instead just going with whatever looks cool to me, dumping my stats into whatever and building my character as the games goes but without a clear goal.

It's one of the reasons why I loved POE2 so much. While it's passives tree can feel quite intimidating, the way it's laid out lets you have short-term goals for your character build, plus more long-term goals once you've gotten into it and know what you are doing. Plus a lot of those games let you respec anyway nowadays, or at least I remember being able to easily do so in POE2.


I've been meaning to try those for a while, the Dark Alliance games and also the Champions of Norrath games which I think are from the same devs.

Glad it is not just myself mate.
Yes, I've heard of the PS2 Champions of Norrath game/s. Definitely something I look into soon. Dark Alliance is great for me. I don't think you can really fuck up a build in that game. I played as the dwarf, and happily rinsed through the game with just basic upgrades. It's certainly not in-depth like Diablo. Story is sadly a bit barebones, but the gameplay loop is addictive.

I haven't played DA 2 yet. Another one I need to do soon.

 

[Arsic]

TQ2 is sooooo fucking good too. Only issue is it runs like sewer water. Worst performance from a game I've ever had.

On a 3080 on lowered settings, at 1440p, on dlss balanced and it's 40fps…

This is after almost a year now of them doing early access. I was stoked to play the 3 chapters now with all the new content but I can't provide feedback when it runs this fucking bad. Hoping console version will lock 60fp on launch.

If you have a good rig and enjoyed TQ1 you'll be in for a fucking treat for 2.

 

[TanDad25]

Great game. I'm not very good with creating builds in ARPG's, so the simplicity (or forgiveness) of TQ really lent itself to how I play.

As much as I have always wanted to appreciate Diablo 1&2, I hit a dead end very quickly due to poor builds.

TQ and BG Dark Alliance 1 are my jam.
ARPG's for idiot's like myself. I love them.

I could probably beat a game like Sekiro with my eyes closed at this point, but something like Diablo, which requires thought in your build absolutely fucks me up.

I'm probably the only one here with that issue, but it is what it is.

Then you should also play Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes on the original Xbox.

 

[PeteBull]

Strongly recommend grim dawn and its 2 amazing xpacks, 3rd one coming in 2026 and game is still supported and regulary updated/balanced etc:

Graphically its good enough so it doesnt deter u from experience, and its light enough for u to play it maxed in 4k60 on midrange or even below midrange pc, if u only need 1080p60 on high then entry lvl pc will be more than enough and game is still not artrocious looking(far above titanquest).

It has incredible amounts of content(easily 500hours even if u only play 1 character and fully beat endgame), it has so many combos of characters/specs u can easily sink into it 2-3k hours if u trying out different specs combos.

 

[Ellis]

Then you should also play Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes on the original Xbox.

Will give it a look. Thanks.

 

[IAmRei]

Have you tried Grim Dawn? I wonder how it compares. The setting is probably not as cool but gameplay wise it seems even slower and more methodical, which reminds me of POE2 and I really liked that one.


Hell yeah!

yeah, quite far, but i'm bored because the graphic is dark but not as cool as dark souls dark theme, it's like not gritty because of the theme, but gritty because the texture is ugly.
but the gun class is my fave. sometimes, I replay it. but unsettling (because of the graphic choice) is bug me a lot.

the TQ however, is nostalgic, like PC game glory in 00s

 

[IntentionalPun]

Damn all that sounds super nice. Basically sounds like "Titan Quest but better". How's the setting like? From afar it looks kinda "medieval-apocaliptic" with a hint of cosmic horror maybe? In any case I think I prefer the setting in TQ but GD looks amazing anyway.

Yeah Dark Fantasy w/ magic. Totally fair to like the TQ setting more. It is definitely pretty good, and FAR superior to TQ2's setting TBH. TQ2 ha this weird look that reminds me of POE where everything feels disconnected from each other.

Grim Dawn is the OG Titan Quest team BTW if you didn't know that. They sold TQ to THQ Nordic who developed the last couple of DLC + TQ2. You can tell Grim Dawn is building on the experience of creating TQ w/ very similar systems but done much better.

I remember reading some impressions from gaffers back when it came out and some were disappointed. Apparently it doesn't really feel like ancient Greece or something.

Yeah it doesn't at all feel like ancient Greece.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

TQ is my favorite Diablo styled game. Love it and the class system. Beautiful environments as well, as you mentioned!

 

[diffusionx]

The problem I had with Titan Quest was the insane amount of trash loot the game drops.

But I think outside of that it's extremely good.

 

[Signalis]

Hey, I've been playing Titan Quest for the past few days and had a lot of fun! Did the base game, Immortal Throne and the DLCs Atlantis and Ragnarok.

It's a cool ARPG, but probably way too simple for today's standards. I ran a conqueror (warfare + defense) and it was a lot of fun, just shield bashing and charging into enemy groups and turning into a colossus when things got tough. The game at least on normal has been quite easy, with only a few bosses here and there giving me trouble but nothing that couldn't be fixed by sipping a bunch of potions. Once I was done with the game on normal I started another playthrough on epic but it wasn't that much more difficult which was a bit of a bummer.

My favorite thing about the game has been different settings you go through, quite varied and colorful. Greece and Egypt both look pretty cool and I'd say the game hasn't really aged that much, and then Act 3 takes you through many different locations from the Hanging Gardens of Babylon all the way to China. Even the DLCs do a great job with this, didn't expect to visit Spain during the quest for Atlantis lol, and that whole part looks great too. The Ragnarok one starts in a pretty boring but gets way better later on. So yeah, still a pretty cool looking game.

All in all, a pretty easy but still a comfy and fun ARPG. Decided to uninstall in the middle of Act 2 on Epic difficulty before the game takes more of time lol. Might still come back to it in the near future but for now I want to focus on other stuff. Can't wait for Grim Dawn's final DLC to come out so I can give that game a go. Also, a bit bummed to learn that TQ2 isn't done by the same devs, hope they do a good job with it.

Even if it's a pretty simple game (there's no dodge like in modern ARPGs) I'd still recommend it. The game plays really well with a gamepad btw, I played it on the Steam Deck and never had any trouble.

I never played the remaster. But I played the shit out of it when it released on PC back in the day. I still have my copy stashed somewhere. I still have very fond memories of it.

 

[StereoVsn]

Yeah Dark Fantasy w/ magic. Totally fair to like the TQ setting more. It is definitely pretty good, and FAR superior to TQ2's setting TBH. TQ2 ha this weird look that reminds me of POE where everything feels disconnected from each other.

Grim Dawn is the OG Titan Quest team BTW if you didn't know that. They sold TQ to THQ Nordic who developed the last couple of DLC + TQ2. You can tell Grim Dawn is building on the experience of creating TQ w/ very similar systems but done much better.



Yeah it doesn't at all feel like ancient Greece.

For some reason Grim Dawn never clicked with me despite multiple attempts over the years.

I think it's the character/environment design. It just looks muddy.