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civilstrife · Nov 13, 2004

The steam server monitor is showing a huge drop in badwidth.
This has only ever occured before a large release via Steam.
The steam forums are ablaze with speculation when the forums themselves start messing up.
Suddenly, they go offline.
This message now greets you when attempting to enter the forums.

"The forums couldn't handle the excitement and are taking a little breather. See www.steampowered.com for news. Thanks!"

Another Pre load?
Early HL2 release?

DopeyFish · Nov 13, 2004

omg what!

Wario64 · Nov 13, 2004

HL2 delayed

civilstrife · Nov 13, 2004

http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html

This is the Steam server monitor.

The bottom graph is the one you want to be looking at.

The huge dip on the right is what is in question.
The other dip in the middle of the graph occured right before a small Steam update last night.

This could be it.

Ferrio · Nov 13, 2004

God dammit I got an 8 page paper, I can't deal with this now!

lexi · Nov 13, 2004

HL2 source code stolen, delayed till September 2005

Xizk · Nov 13, 2004

Damn,my new computer doesn't get here until monday

mumu · Nov 13, 2004

civilstrife said:
The huge dip on the right is what is in question.

What huge dip? That's probably not even 10%! Valve is messing with your heads folks.

xabre · Nov 14, 2004

All the pre-loads are done aren't they? We're just waiting on them to unlock the game at this point. I did my pre-loading last night, really quick too. If HL2 gets unlocked today then work can sure as hell get fucked tomorrow.

suaveric · Nov 14, 2004

question- When you buy HL2 off of steam, does it start downloading right then or can that be controlled? Say for instance you only want it downloading in the middle of the night.

question 2 - Does anyone know if the two expansions for the first HL will be updated to the source engine? I know you get access to them if you buy the silver or gold packages, but who would want to play those after playing HL: Source if they aren't updated as well?

DopeyFish · Nov 14, 2004

suaveric said:
question- When you buy HL2 off of steam, does it start downloading right then or can that be controlled? Say for instance you only want it downloading in the middle of the night.

question 2 - Does anyone know if the two expansions for the first HL will be updated to the source engine? I know you get access to them if you buy the silver or gold packages, but who would want to play those after playing HL: Source if they aren't updated as well?

you dont need to buy half life 2 to preload it

Ferrio · Nov 14, 2004

DopeyFish said:
you dont need to buy half life 2 to preload it

I'm pretty sure you do.

Gribbix · Nov 14, 2004

suaveric said:
question 2 - Does anyone know if the two expansions for the first HL will be updated to the source engine? I know you get access to them if you buy the silver or gold packages, but who would want to play those after playing HL: Source if they aren't updated as well?

On a related note, can the HD Blue Shift models be used with HL:Source?

xabre · Nov 14, 2004

You can choose when you want to start, pause or stop downloading. Also, the only stuff being updated to source that I know of are Counterstrike (looks worlds above the original game), Day of Defeat and the original Half Life.

DopeyFish · Nov 14, 2004

Ferrio said:
I'm pretty sure you do.

i was preloading the game before i bought it.

COCKLES · Nov 14, 2004

Bugger, I was about to reinstall TFC as well.

Ferrio · Nov 14, 2004

DopeyFish said:
i was preloading the game before i bought it.

Did you have condition zero or beta for CS:S ?

brandonnn · Nov 14, 2004

xabre said:
All the pre-loads are done aren't they?

I just bought the silver pack about 7 hours ago and haven't been able to get a single byte of the preload all day. If I try pausing and continuing, it tells me the server's too busy to handle any more preloads and I should try again in a few hours, which doesn't jibe well with

DopeyFish · Nov 14, 2004

neither

The Shadow · Nov 14, 2004

brandonnn said:
I just bought the silver pack about 7 hours ago and haven't been able to get a single byte of the preload all day. If I try pausing and continuing, it tells me the server's too busy to handle any more preloads and I should try again in a few hours, which doesn't jibe well with

Did you try shutting down steam and then restarting it? I've noticed that steam sometimes gets "stuck" on a particular percentage and you have to restart it to get it going again.

Slo · Nov 14, 2004

It's probably just Half Life 1: Source. They've got to make it available before Tuesday, since it's going to be available at retail then.

The Shadow · Nov 14, 2004

Slo said:
It's probably just Half Life 1: Source. They've got to make it available before Tuesday, since it's going to be available at retail then.

HL:S is going to come out before HL2?

brandonnn · Nov 14, 2004

The Shadow said:
Did you try shutting down steam and then restarting it? I've noticed that steam sometimes gets "stuck" on a particular percentage and you have to restart it to get it going again.

I didn't, but after watching it like a hawk all day, I looked again after I posted and was suddenly at 0.6%! Spoke too soon, I guess. I'll keep that in mind if it gets caught along the way tho, thanks.

Slo · Nov 14, 2004

The Shadow said:
HL:S is going to come out before HL2?

I didn't say that. We're talking about a preload right? They'll probably be preloading HL1 since it needs to be playable by Tuesday.

xabre · Nov 14, 2004

I didn't, but after watching it like a hawk all day, I looked again after I posted and was suddenly at 0.6%! Spoke too soon, I guess.

Seems a bit slow. What connection are you using? The whole thing (about 3GB) probably only took around 3 hrs when I got it last night.

Stuggernaut · Nov 14, 2004

I thought HL:S was already preloaded??

Maybe I just never looked...

Either way, I'd bet that any and all remaining preload content will be pushed out before Tuesday.

xabre · Nov 14, 2004

How long until the game is due to be unlocked? I've heard all sorts of shit from 27 hrs to 54 hrs.

Slo · Nov 14, 2004

Is it? I can check the Pre-load status of HL2, but not of HL:S or DoD:S.

Coop · Nov 14, 2004

halflife2.net forums are down too

We're getting swamped.

Half-Life 2 will not be released early.

Forums turned off for a little while to recover.

brandonnn · Nov 14, 2004

xabre said:
Seems a bit slow. What connection are you using? The whole thing (about 3GB) probably only took around 3 hrs when I got it last night.

It apparently just started while I was posting -- it's gone from 0.6 to 10% in the last 15-20 minutes, so I guess I should have it fairly soon.

GashPrex · Nov 14, 2004

major shit huh? :lol

XMonkey · Nov 14, 2004

Gribbix said:
On a related note, can the HD Blue Shift models be used with HL:Source?

IIRC, The Blue Shift models are the ones Valve used to replace the original HL models in HL:S.

Uncle Dukey · Nov 14, 2004

What's going to be different about Half-Life: Source? If they haven't changed the art assets, I'm still not really seeing where the improvements are coming from.

Wario64 · Nov 14, 2004

Uncle Dukey said:
What's going to be different about Half-Life: Source? If they haven't changed the art assets, I'm still not really seeing where the improvements are coming from.

Maybe physics? I don't know, haven't really been up to date with HL Source

dream · Nov 14, 2004

Better physics model, I guess. I think HL: Source is intended for first-time players just so their initial introduction to the HL series isn't so graphically...jarring.

Coop · Nov 14, 2004

water and physics

xabre · Nov 14, 2004

Unless they're going to up the rez of the textures, won't fancy DX9 pixel shaded water look jarringly out of place in a 1998 game?

SKluck · Nov 14, 2004

The textures are upgraded. They said they aren't, but in the screens of HL:S, they are much much better.

Why they lie about that I do not know.

Edit: Actually I take that back, my memory is fuzzy. In some areas they look better and some they look the same, maybe it is just the lighting.

Oh! My Car! · Nov 14, 2004

Half-Life 2 For Sale? November 13, 2004, 4:57 pm · valve
If you have purchased a copy of Half-Life 2, we are sorry you are still waiting to play. This is not Valve's choice. Vivendi is insisting that the game has not yet been released, and has threatened that Valve would be in violation of its contract if we activate the Half-Life 2 Steam authentication servers at this time.

Pah

skrew · Nov 14, 2004

brandonnn said:
I just bought the silver pack about 7 hours ago and haven't been able to get a single byte of the preload all day. If I try pausing and continuing, it tells me the server's too busy to handle any more preloads and I should try again in a few hours, which doesn't jibe well with

i had the same problem for weeks, i uninstalled steam, reinstalled and it started right away

civilstrife · Nov 14, 2004

Well, the steam forums are back up, but nobody really knows what's going on.
That statement by Valve definately rules out an early release of HL2, but I have my hopes up for HL: source

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