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Man Saves 3 lives gets run over and Jaywalking ticket
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crowphoenix
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No, the truck driver being an ass caused the accident. Pedestrians have the right of way. Always.
ChackanKun
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neorej said:
This.
crowphoenix said:
Ha, not in America!
Walking and cycling are for the poor and the DWI offenders, if you are not driving a 20ft long SUV you do not matter.
Seriously best way to murder someone and get away with it is to run them over, you will not even get charged with negligent homicide.
It was probably necessary to cite him for insurance reasons - in the case of accidents insurance companies usually require some determination of fault (unless you live in a state with 'no-fault' accident laws), so the police were required to cite both the driver and the people jaywalking as in violation of the law. No one is saying that the jaywalking citation will lead to any actual punishment.
thesoapster
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Wow. That guy got some nasty injuries...hope he'll be fine. That asswipe's insurance better pay every dime of his medical bills and then some.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Battersea Power Station
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What is a livable street?Gallbaro said:
Also, there's no way a NYC driver will touch a pedestrian, no matter how pissed they get. Pedestrians are constantly daring cars to bump in to them, without regard to lights or traffic conditions. Here, it's pretty well known that if you drive in the city, you let pedestrians get away with whatever they want.
On Long Island, on the other hand, the atmosphere is completely reversed. Pedestrians patiently wait on corners to let traffic through, and a driver will rarely wave you across. Also, there are no sidewalks on many streets. I hate this place, by the way.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not....
i work in insurance and handle shit like pedestrian hits from time to time. trust me, the law absolutely sides with the pedestrian to a ridiculous degree.
livestOne said:
As I said before I am a New Yorker, trapped in Arkansas, who cannot wait to get rid of his car when he moves back. It was a sarcastic representation on the American psyche towards pedestrian-ism. As I said earlier the United States places such little responsibility in the hands of people driving machines that kill more people in the US than guns do.
http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/02/11/pedestrian-dead-after-van-drags-him-17-miles/
http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/...-unanswered-in-aftermath-of-chinatown-deaths/
Just look at those two cases, kill someone with a car in this country, even in NYC where most households do not even own cars and you will not get so much as a citation.
Those are just recent examples of the justice even class inequity automobiles bring, since I have been active in the livable street community for a few years I have heard almost on a daily basis of the lack of legal responsibilities drivers have in exchange for the ability to direct the movements of tons of steel.
FrenchMovieTheme
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obviously some cases are going to slip through the cracks and seem ridiculous, but let me tell you first hand that the laws ABSOLUTELY favor the pedestrian. i work with this shit every day, trust me.
Shalashaska
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Be careful if you ever visit Quebec because they disagree. Not that I advocate visiting Quebec anyway.crowphoenix said:
TGateKeeper
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Gallbaro is correct on the bold part. most people who kill another using a car (as long as it was not intentional) ie: drunks,speeders, careless drivers get off with bail,community service or a very light sentence. very rarely do they get more than 5 years in prison.Gallbaro said:
Not in Florida they don't. Down here it's only if you see a No Turn On Red (when pedestrians in crosswalk) sign. Otherwise, we can turn freely on red. Pedestrians generally yield to cars. You can easily spot the transplants b/c they're the ones who stop to let people cross the street. Here in Miami, if you're not driving, you're among the walking dead. PEACE.crowphoenix said:
crowphoenix
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I'll remember that if I ever get a chance to visit there.Shalashaska said:
Pimpwerx said:
And that too. Thanks.
crowphoenix
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You're right, of course, but at least to me, those seem like they would be rare cases. Such as here, it seems that the truck was stopped before he tried to floor it past them, so it was his choice to do that that caused this.Slavik81 said:
But do you have any stats on the subject? It would be an interesting read.
Suburban Cowboy
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"Guy helps women jay-walk, gets what he deserves"
ThirstyFly
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This is an outrage!
The old ladies should have gotten jaywalking tickets too.
The old ladies should have gotten jaywalking tickets too.
The Faceless Master
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i dunno what NYC you mean, but you obviously don't mean New York City.Gallbaro said:
The Faceless Master said:
The sheer mass of pedestrians in NYC give them the upper hand in mobility, but run over a cyclist or pedestrian and the police will not give you a hassle.
And still when you calculate the amount of public land in NYC and its purpose something like %70 of it is dedicated to the automobile. There is still a huge inequity in the subsidy of the automobile in NYC. The new DOT commissioner Shah Kasahn (something along those lines) is the most powerful livable streets advocate in the US, removing car capacity for pedestrian and cycling improvements, but she has no control over NYPD enforcement and Attorney prosecutions.
NYPD and State attorneys simply DO NOT PROSECUTE vehicular based crimes against pedestrians.
Sho_Nuff82
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zoku88 said:
In Mass I'm pretty sure pedestrians only have the right of way in crosswalks.
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