He really made me mad, said Maddox, 70, who accused Trump of trying to pit those on the mainland against Puerto Ricans, even though theyre all Americans.
I dont know, said her husband, Fred Maddox, 75. I think hes trying.
He continued: Its a problem, but they need to handle it. It shouldnt be up to us, really. I dont think so. Theyre sitting back, theyre taking the money, theyre taking a little under the table. Hes trying to wake them up: Do your job. Be responsible.
The divide in the Maddox household is one playing out across the country, as those who voted for the president debate how much support the federal government should give Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory without a voting member of Congress that is not allowed to vote in presidential elections.
Some supporters of the president, like Fred Maddox, agree with Trump that Puerto Ricos infrastructure was frail before the storm; that the crisis was worsened by a lack of leadership there; and that the federal government should limit its involvement in the rebuilding effort, which will likely cost billions of dollars. But others, like Mary Maddox, are appalled by how the president talks about Puerto Rico and say the United States has a moral obligation to take care of its citizens.
Guess what? Theres a big chunk of the population that lives without electricity all the time, Ramirez said, saying she was sharing the experiences of a friend who has family on the island.
Hogg, 76, nodded his head in agreement: They never had it. Never had it.
They dont live deprived, because its a beautiful environment, she continued. The weather is nice, the climate is good most of the time, so its different from here . . . It works there because of the climate. It wouldnt work here.
About 96 percent of Puerto Ricos electricity customers had service before Maria made landfall, according to federal data; many of the rest had no power because of Hurricane Irma two weeks earlier.
Ramirez said the government should encourage those living in the hardest-hit areas to move to the mainland, out of the direct path of hurricanes and into communities with more-reliable infrastructure.
I object. I object. They should stay where they are and fix their own country up, Hogg responded softly, shaking his head, wrongly referring to the U.S. territory as a separate nation.
But David Hogg, a retired electrical engineer who once worked at NASA, also said that Puerto Ricans lack of responsibility is not an emergency on my part. The same goes for Texans without flood insurance, he said.
His wife frowned, stared at him and asked: So you have no mercy?
Uh-uh. No mercy, he said. They should do what I do: Spend the money, get insurance.
Fred Maddox, who is retired from inspecting commercial airline planes, says he doesnt agree with many of the things Trump flippantly says, but he still believes in the president and would vote for him again. He likes having a businessman in office, especially one whos not afraid to speak the painful truth even if that means publicly calling out Puerto Rican officials during a crisis.
Its time, he said, we had someone in there to fight for us.
Deny me aid if old.
So.... Tell me how on Earth we can win these people with socialist policies when they only want "whites only socialism"? A racial caste system where everyone else is shit out of luck.