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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)

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J10

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Because Matt Murdock is a moron who doesn't think to ask anyone beforehand what color fabric he's working with.
 

jmood88

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I wonder if Jessica Jones' childhood crush on
Peter Parker
can be worked in slyly somehow without
violating Sony's rights to the property.

Marvel has the tv rights to Spider-Man so they can do whatever they want, though they more than likely won't do anything with them unless they get the movie rights back, as well.
 

maxcriden

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Marvel has the tv rights to Spider-Man so they can do whatever they want, though they more than likely won't do anything with them unless they get the movie rights back, as well.

Oh, neat. Good point. All I'm asking for is a funny throwaway reference, so I feel like it could happen. ;)
 

Pachimari

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Marvel has the tv rights to Spider-Man so they can do whatever they want, though they more than likely won't do anything with them unless they get the movie rights back, as well.

So they can make a Spider-Man tv-show for Netflix and let it be part of the MCU (without him showing up in the movies) ?
 
So they can make a Spider-Man tv-show for Netflix and let it be part of the MCU (without him showing up in the movies) ?

I believe they technically can (with some caveats), but they'll never do it that way. I think they'd rather leave open the possibility of eventually getting Spidey back wholesale and they don't want to burn his stories off on TV.
 

Lirlond

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Honestly I think Spiderman would work best on TV, don't get me wrong a lot of his big stuff would be great on the silver screen, but Miles Morales street level Spidey would be amazing.
 

BLACKLAC

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Honestly I think Spiderman would work best on TV, don't get me wrong a lot of his big stuff would be great on the silver screen, but Miles Morales street level Spidey would be amazing.

Spider-man is one of the few properties (maybe the only property?) that can be a TV show leading into movies and still pull in HUGE blockbuster numbers, I agree.
 
I have to disagree as I don't think Spider-Man action scenes can be conveyed on a TV show. His level of agility and speed is just too much. Some of the stuff he does is only possible with CG, and CG Spider-Man is expensive.
 

rexor0717

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Yeah, if ASM has anything going for it, its conveying Spider Man's agility. That'd be really hard to do (impossible) to do on a TV budget.
 

Lirlond

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It'd be great! Have his week to week dealing with New York thugs, the mafia, his school life, his love life, minor villians. Suddenly a bunch of follk are found drained of blood, Spiderman vs Morbius film! No filler, all action!
 

GAMEPROFF

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Because it makes totally sense to make a Spider-Man Show in the MCU and cant be allowed under any circumstances to mention him in the cinema.


And the rights to Miles are @ Sony. Its more realistic to expect Shenmue 3 to release next week.
 
Maybe in Jessica Jones? We're not even getting Bullseye in Daredevil, who'd I put in before Purple Man.
They already have Kingpin, they probably don't want to feel like they're recycling the Daredevil movie with Kingpin/Elektra/Bullseye.
Wait, is this 100% for sure? That would be awful! Bullseye is one of my favorite villains and has such an incredible history with DD (my favorite hero). Is there confirmation he won't be there or are you just assuming this just because no one's been cast as Bullseye yet?
 

GAMEPROFF

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Wait, is this 100% for sure? That would be awful! Bullseye is one of my favorite villains and has such an incredible history with DD (my favorite hero). Is there confirmation he won't be there or are you just assuming this just because no one's been cast as Bullseye yet?

Its confirmed by the showrunner.
 
Its confirmed by the showrunner.
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neoanarch

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Marvel doesn't actually have the TV rights to Spidey. As far as I know someone speculated as much from the fact they do have animated tv rights back and conflated that with a live action tv rights. They aren't the same thing obviously.


I said it last page but I'll repeat it again. Matt could fill the Parker role in the JJ backstory. It would tie all 4 characters together really well. I would not be shocked if they did it that way.
 

sycam0re

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Can somebody point me in the direction of a guide on this "street-level" classification?

non-superpowered, martial arts or military-styled superheroes that often deal with urban crime in nyc or an nyc analogue.

things like:

batman
moon knight
punisher
shang chi
elektra

and their derivatives
 
I hope so.

I doubt a big name would pop in but if they get someone like Sackhoff (who's now apart of the Netflix family) it would certainly be doable

They're not getting a big name for Danvers unless it's someone on a downward path in their career, like Downey Jr. was before Iron Man. They're going to want to lock someone up cheaply and for a while, and I don't think any "big name" is going to agree to that.
 

neoanarch

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They're not getting a big name for Danvers unless it's someone on a downward path in their career, like Downey Jr. was before Iron Man. They're going to want to lock someone up cheaply and for a while, and I don't think any "big name" is going to agree to that.
Sackhoff isn't a big name at all. Blunt would be a big name that would be expensive for a multipicture deal. Sackhoff would be right in Marvels price range.
 

anaron

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They're not getting a big name for Danvers unless it's someone on a downward path in their career, like Downey Jr. was before Iron Man. They're going to want to lock someone up cheaply and for a while, and I don't think any "big name" is going to agree to that.
Which works in Katee's favour :D

Oliver Sava at the AV Club suggested Mockingbird as a Carol friend replacement for JJ which would actually make a lot of sense.
 
Sackhoff isn't a big name at all. Blunt would be a big name that would be expensive for a multipicture deal. Sackhoff would be right in Marvels price range.

True, but they would also want an up-and-comer, which Katee absolutely is not. I see Marvel going with someone like Tatiana Maslany (i.e. someone with a good amount of buzz and/or nerd cred around them, but hasn't actually blown up yet).
 

duckroll

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I could see them making Jones an ex-SHIELD agent here to adjust to the MCU's confines.

They might not have to. I think that with Age of Ultron and Ant-Man, they're going to introduce a plausible sort of Silver Age which we simply never saw between WW2 and Iron Man 1. If they make it believable that there were always heroes operating in secret, and that society at large was simply just not aware of it, then Jones would fit right in.
 

Weapxn

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They might not have to. I think that with Age of Ultron and Ant-Man, they're going to introduce a plausible sort of Silver Age which we simply never saw between WW2 and Iron Man 1. If they make it believable that there were always heroes operating in secret, and that society at large was simply just not aware of it, then Jones would fit right in.
I don't know that JJ is old enough to be a part of that "Silver Age" though, is she?
 
They might not have to. I think that with Age of Ultron and Ant-Man, they're going to introduce a plausible sort of Silver Age which we simply never saw between WW2 and Iron Man 1. If they make it believable that there were always heroes operating in secret, and that society at large was simply just not aware of it, then Jones would fit right in.

I've been getting the same sort of feeling and I really, really, really hope it pans out. It would add a bit more depth to the MCU and be overall pretty interesting.
 

J10

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I don't know that JJ is old enough to be a part of that "Silver Age" though, is she?
An MCU silver age would span like 70 years. She would only need to be a youthful 40 and that can be hand waved away by her powers/ origin.
Just say she was active in the 90s.
 

Slayven

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An MCU silver age would span like 70 years. She would only need to be a youthful 40 and that can be hand waved away by her powers/ origin.
Just say she was active in the 90s.

So the Raph and Crew are ageless?

Comic nerd joke.

What are the other "levels"?

Mid(Ironman, Aquaman, Luke Cage)
Top Tier(Superman, Wonder Woman, Blue Marvel)
Cosmic(Silver Surfer, Green Lantern, Nova)

It is a mix of their power levels and the problems they deal with. There are some obvious overlap.
 
Marvel doesn't actually have the TV rights to Spidey. As far as I know someone speculated as much from the fact they do have animated tv rights back and conflated that with a live action tv rights. They aren't the same thing obviously.

They do have the TV rights for Spidey but they need Sony's permission to produce live action material. Which they most likely aren't getting.

This is actually true for the X-Men/FF too.
 

DonasaurusRex

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non-superpowered, martial arts or military-styled superheroes that often deal with urban crime in nyc or an nyc analogue.

things like:

batman
moon knight
punisher
shang chi
elektra

and their derivatives

I wouldn't say non super powered. They just deal with crime more so than saving the public from disaster (not that they dont help).
 
non-superpowered, martial arts or military-styled superheroes that often deal with urban crime in nyc or an nyc analogue.

things like:

batman
moon knight
punisher
shang chi
elektra

and their derivatives

I wouldn't say non super powered. They just deal with crime more so than saving the public from disaster (not that they dont help).

Yeah, heroes like Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Spider-man are super powered but still street level
 

DonasaurusRex

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Ummmm what is up with that Daredevil costume?

Doesn't look anything like the design I am most acquainted with.

Its what he starts out in during the man without fear storyline, workout gear and face covering.

man-without-fear-1.jpg


Later (man without fear is technically his college years / before his main book) on he dons the boxing gear yellow(the main 60's - 70's run)

daredevil-yellow.jpg


the red devil ( revamp of yellow fairly early on) / black +red gear from the more recent shadowland run.

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shadowland-1.jpg
 

Dalek

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I know this won't happen-but in the comments on another site reporting on Kristen Ritter being announced as Jessica Jones, someone said to get Aaron Paul to be Iron Fist.

I'm actually now seriously hoping for that-I think I can see it!
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/enterta...r-jessica-jones-interview/?visibilityoverride

Krysten Ritter talking about Jessica Jones.

Were you a comic book fan before you got the role of Jessica Jones?

I wasn't. It's so brand new! This is like my first interview. I wasn't, but I am now reading the Jessica Jones comics and devouring them. And [I'm] hooked. I don't think I've been so hooked on something since Serial. So now I feel that way about the Jessica Jones series. I can't wait. I mean, as soon as we're done today, that's what I am going to be doing. I'm really excited about Jessica Jones. It's so fucking cool. It's so cool. I can't wait to watch it.
 
I know this won't happen-but in the comments on another site reporting on Kristen Ritter being announced as Jessica Jones, someone said to get Aaron Paul to be Iron Fist.

I'm actually now seriously hoping for that-I think I can see it!

I've been saying Aaron Paul for Danny for ages

KUNG FU, BITCH
 
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