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[jarrod]

The story is different in EU and US fo course, where PSP games sell more than the other handheld and it's seen more as a gaming device.

DS and PSP are basically even for western software sales. PSP has a slight lead, but it's pretty insignificant... in fact, DS has a larger hardware lead in the west than it.

but I can't remember the last time a single machine has so thoroughly dominated both hw and sw charts in JP.

Super Famicom. Seriously.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Thanks to Famitsu, today i have updated the DS overall chart, next week probably both Mario Kart and Yawaraka will be million sellers.

Otona2 is the best debut for a Nintendo game i can remember since SNES days, even if cheap price probably helped high sales.

Good sales for Slime Mori Mori 2 and Dragonball, week after week they are climbing positions, and also Mushiking is climbing, even if it's so far from GBA sales.

3 million sellers in 13 months is an incredible score, considering they could be 6 at end of January, the same number got by GBA in 4 years...

http://moorangol.altervista.org/ds.html

 

[ioi]

Well, even better than that- Everything and Nothing has seen some updates and now has a breakdown per week by console and by publisher as well as yearly charts.

It is slowly being updated year by year with the smaller games that aren't on there yet. 1996, 1997 and first half of 98 are done so you can look back to Saturn vs Playstation and how the PS came to be the monster it is today, but 1999 onwards only have big games included (generally over half a million) but this will all be updated over time year by year.

Keep checking and stay tuned for hardware to be added as well.

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

DS lifetime sales / DS weeks availability = 98,936.7. Consider in some production time before launch,and this does seem like what an average week would be. It really does seem not having the DS sitting by as an option helped other systems, too. The only other one down from last week was X360.

This is really freakily reminding me of last year. DS outsold PSP for the first week of the year, but then unsated PSP demand gave it high numbers for the next few weeks

The good thing about PSP outselling DS is it gives a good excuse to bring back the silly figures for when PSP will outsell DS! If every week happened to be just like this one, they'll meet up on May 17, 2007, at 12,192,615 units apiece. If DS stops selling altogether while PSP continues at this rate, it will catch up on June 11 of this year.

Think about it. the DS has sold some gigantic number of consoles since launch. How many people in japan could actually be considered a market for a portable console, and of those how many already have one? We may have hit a point where everyone who wants a DS has one, and we'll start to see sales decline as a result.

That sounds a lot like Drinky about a year ago, talking about how DS was about to hit the wall of selling to the few million hardcore Nintendo fans.

 

[[Nintex]]

Holy shit if Nintendo releases a DS redesign before the end of January DS sales will Sky rocket. Because of the shortages the demand will be higher then ever. DS-2 will be the final deathblow for the PSP in Japan. Nintendo once again showed how to deal with the Handheld market, and how to keep its domination.

 

[MrSardonic]

Think about it. the DS has sold some gigantic number of consoles since launch. How many people in japan could actually be considered a market for a portable console, and of those how many already have one? We may have hit a point where everyone who wants a DS has one, and we'll start to see sales decline as a result.

:lol :lol :lol

just another toss off theory to go with the rest. It is an interesting question from an economic perspective though. How big is the potential market for a product like this anyway? What kinds of numbers were they expecting to make, and what are they looking at now after their phenomenal christmas season? Raw sales data is very interesting unto itself, but i'd love to hear what Nintendo and Sony market analysts have to say from their own viewpoints.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[I <3 Katamari]

.. Why do you say "final" deathblow as if PSP is close to being dead whatsoever?

It's selling great in Japan and its games are selling better in America and Europe than DS games (maybe not December I guess -- weren't NPD numbers supposed to come out yesterday, by the way?).

PSP IS NO WHERE CLOSE TO DEAD.

 

[MrSardonic]

It's selling great in Japan

Perhaps you havn't noticed that the PSP barely sells any software in Japan? That is a major source of profit that is missing for Sony, while they sell the hardware at a loss. The better the hardware sales and the worse the software sales....uh oh

PSP isn't dead, but Sony do have some significant problems to address right now - such as making it a solid source of profit

 

[Moor-Angol]

Long live to PSP

Without PSP we still play with GBA or will have a DS with all SNES porting that did not arrive on GBA.

Competition is good, always.

 

[xsarien]

Without PSP we still play with GBA or will have a DS with all SNES porting that did not arrive on GBA.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

 

[Sweedishrodeo]

the photoshops are starting to suck. i think everyone needs to take a week vacation from easter.

 

[MrSardonic]

the photoshops are starting to suck. i think everyone needs to take a week vacation from easter.

my photoshops never suck. you have insulted my honour, sir

 

[Elios83]

Perhaps you havn't noticed that the PSP barely sells any software in Japan? That is a major source of profit that is missing for Sony, while they sell the hardware at a loss. The better the hardware sales and the worse the software sales....uh oh

PSP isn't dead, but Sony do have some significant problems to address right now - such as making it a solid source of profit

Oh please,how do you know if PSP is profitable or not?
You simply don't. What we know is that:
a)It's already a more than a year old system which is mainly manufactured in China where production costs are really low and with most of the components made in house.
b)The gaming division has reported increased profit compared to the previous year (2004) without the PSP and that's also including the major costs associated with PS3 development.

The PSP business is already a source of profit for Sony,Kutaragi predicted it would be since summer 2005.

 

[MrSardonic]

Oh please,how do you know if PSP is profitable or not?
You simply don't.

Hey, let's take a little read of my post again shall we.

Perhaps you havn't noticed that the PSP barely sells any software in Japan? That is a major source of profit that is missing for Sony, while they sell the hardware at a loss. The better the hardware sales and the worse the software sales....uh oh

PSP isn't dead, but Sony do have some significant problems to address right now - such as making it a solid source of profit

Where did I say it wasnt profitable? I said the lack of good software sales in Japan should be a significant worry for Sony, because software sales are a major source of profit for handhelds

 

[jarrod]

a)It's already a more than a year old system which is mainly manufactured in China where production costs are really low and with most of the components made in house.

The costliest components (screen, memory, wifi chip) are all outsourced. Only the casing and chipset is made inhouse really, this isn't at all like PS/PS2.

b)The gaming division has reported increased profit compared to the previous year (2004) without the PSP and that's also including the major costs associated with PS3 development.

SCE isn't eating all the costs for related technologies though (CELL, Blue-Ray). Just like with PS2, SEL is likely shouldering more than we know about.

The PSP business is already a source of profit for Sony,Kutaragi predicted it would be since summer 2005.

"Oh please,how do you know if PSP is profitable or not?"

 

[mj1108]

Is it just me or is the Sony fanboy spinning in this thread about the most ludicrous pieces of shit I think we've ever seen. :lol :lol

 

[Oblivion]

Easter isn't over, a stock shortage doesnt count.

Thats like saying that Jesus was a loser for 3 days just because he was murdered and sealed in a cave.

As soon as they get stock back in, DS (Jesus) will roll the stone aside and kick everyones ass again.

Exactly! If there was more more DSs, it would've kicked the PSP six ways from Sunday. Easter is not over, return to your photoshop terminals at once!

Also, the Sony spinning in this thread is a LOL and a half. Admit it guys, Sony's going third party, it's all over.

 

[Yoshi]

Come on, last week's thread was sooo much better. Where are all the Nintendo is doomed, one Handheld-future and so on pics? Take your chance while it lasts .

 

[Fuzzy]

Here's a question: can someone (Fuzzy?) give us the "sold to date" totals for each of those systems, kind of like what is done for the games? If there's only rounded numbers for a few or no numbers at all, that's fine, but as many as possible would be extremely helpful.

I believe it's cvxfreak that has a breakdown for 2002-now for each of those for Media Create.

 

[lancubap]

Oh please,how do you know if PSP is profitable or not?
You simply don't. What we know is that:
a)It's already a more than a year old system which is mainly manufactured in China where production costs are really low and with most of the components made in house.
b)The gaming division has reported increased profit compared to the previous year (2004) without the PSP and that's also including the major costs associated with PS3 development.

The PSP business is already a source of profit for Sony,Kutaragi predicted it would be since summer 2005.

Sony has said that the PSP is not rental for now. When this fact will change, its Sony himself that will make the annonce.

Sony has said nothing, so the portable is still NOT profitable.

 

[cvxfreak]

platform this week last week 2006 total 02 – 06 LTD
1 PSP 132,757 110,741 132,757 2,815,719
2 Nintendo DS 91,379 597,628 91,379 5,738,331
3 PlayStation 2 80,886 78,646 80,886 11,457,938
4 GameBoy Advance SP 17,443 15,998 17,443 5,708,758
5 GameCube 13,423 17,579 13,423 3,169,743
6 Game Boy micro 11,818 11,234 11,818 426,906
7 Xbox360 7,477 12,300 7,477 78,044
8 Gameboy Advance 564 447 564 4,554,122
9 Xbox 156 121 156 472,607

The last column is 2002-2006 system LTD, so it includes complete numbers for everything except the PS2, GBA and GC. My long hunt for older Media Create hardware totals hasn't resulted in anything.

 

[Fuzzy]

platform this week last week 2006 total 02 – 06 LTD
1 PSP 132,757 110,741 132,757 2,815,719
2 Nintendo DS 91,379 597,628 91,379 5,738,331
3 PlayStation 2 80,886 78,646 80,886 11,457,938
4 GameBoy Advance SP 17,443 15,998 17,443 5,708,758
5 GameCube 13,423 17,579 13,423 3,169,743
6 Game Boy micro 11,818 11,234 11,818 426,906
7 Xbox360 7,477 12,300 7,477 78,044
8 Gameboy Advance 564 447 564 4,554,122
9 Xbox 156 121 156 472,607

The last column is 2002-2006 system LTD, so it includes complete numbers for everything except the PS2, GBA and GC. My long hunt for older Media Create hardware totals hasn't resulted in anything.

Mind posting the breakdown by year like you did before?

 

[I <3 Katamari]

platform this week last week 2006 total 02 – 06 LTD
1 PSP 132,757 110,741 132,757 2,815,719
2 Nintendo DS 91,379 597,628 91,379 5,738,331
3 PlayStation 2 80,886 78,646 80,886 11,457,938
4 GameBoy Advance SP 17,443 15,998 17,443 5,708,758
5 GameCube 13,423 17,579 13,423 3,169,743
6 Game Boy micro 11,818 11,234 11,818 426,906
7 Xbox360 7,477 12,300 7,477 78,044
8 Gameboy Advance 564 447 564 4,554,122
9 Xbox 156 121 156 472,607

The last column is 2002-2006 system LTD, so it includes complete numbers for everything except the PS2, GBA and GC. My long hunt for older Media Create hardware totals hasn't resulted in anything.

Thank you sooo much.

What were the release dates in Japan for Xbox, PS2, GBA, and GC, btw?

And do you have a general idea as to how much more PS2, GC, and GBA have sold?

 

[Fuzzy]

Thank you sooo much.

What were the release dates in Japan for Xbox, PS2, GBA, and GC, btw?

PS2 Launched March 4th 2000
GBA Launched March 21st 2001
GCN Launched September 14th 2001
Xbox Launched February 22nd 2002
GBASP Launched February 14th 2003
DS Launched December 2nd 2004
PSP Launched December 12th 2004
GB Micro Launched Spetember 13th 2005
Xbox 360 Launched December 10th 2005

EDIT: Thank you, I knew that was wrong.

 

[Rock_Man]

Thus DS surpassed GBASP this week.

 

[Rock_Man]

GB Micro Launched Spetember 15th(?) 2005

Sept 13

 

[AniHawk]

This month is...

Handheld Wars Episode III: Revenge of the PSP

 

[donny2112]

I updated the Japan and U.S. Handheld charts here. The U.S. one will be revised again once

1) GBA numbers are released
2) The NPD/NOA/TheStreet.com/whatever controversy is ended

 

[neptunes]

I remember SCEI/Kutaragi mentioning that they would start profiting of the psp as of summer last year.

that's the only word we have going for it right now.

 

[elostyle]

Gosh I miss the daily charts - any news yet for today's numbers?

 

[ethelred]

Gosh I miss the daily charts - any news yet for today's numbers?

I'm jonesing for the sales data

 

[Yamauchi]

So...

 

[Fuzzy]

So...

If they were available there would be a new thread.

 

[Yamauchi]

If they were available there would be a new thread.

REALLY!? WOW

 

[littlewig]

Gosh I miss the daily charts - any news yet for today's numbers?

How come we don't get daily updates anymore?

 

[Oblivion]

How come we don't get daily updates anymore?

Yeah, what's up with that, yo?

 

[Fuzzy]

Japan no longer has "days" so we can't get charts for what no longer exists there.

 

[jamesinclair]

Japan no longer has "days" so we can't get charts for what no longer exists there.

You're wrong. Christmas, Easter, Martin Luther Kind DAY etc are all days. HoliDAYS are days.

Everything else isnt, youre right in that regard.

 

[Leonsito]

Software from 9 to 15 is up:

http://www.gpara.com/ranking/index.htm

 

[Izzy]

And Monster Hunter Portable (PSP) continues to climb up the chart - currently it's at No.6 - 37,000 units sold last week, and 377,000 units (!) LTD.

Just for comparison, the best selling Monster Hunter game on PS2 sold 100,000 copies less.