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Forgotten Ancient said:
Thank god REDS is bombing hard. This repackaged whoring of RE is awful and hopefully they'll finally decide to do an original game in the series with puzzles and other elements actually built around the DS, not adjusted for it.

Lazy lazy lazy LAZY.

Besides, RE1 on any platform is a chore to play after the awesomeness that is RE4.

It's circular logic. To make an original, they need to establish a foothold in the DS with a port.

It's not really a bomb the way the REmake was. The development for this game, like all DS games, is so cheap that if Japanese sales don't bring in some kind of profit, then sales from everywhere else will.
 
kia said:
DS supreme reign in software sales started 4 weeks ago.

12/26-01/01

1. NDS Brain Training 2 - 414,556 NEW
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS - 205,119 (1,382,228)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS - 168,680 (836,478)
4. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 - 156,837 (884,428)
5. NDS Brain Training - 153,189 (1,157,870)
6. PS2 Front Mission 5 - 146,209 NEW
7. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 - 132,726 NEW
8. NDS Gentle Brain Training - 82,789 (935,535)
9. NDS Tamagotchi - 63,433 (784,537)
10. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force - 61,154 (572,858)

DS games - 8/10


01/02-01/08

1. NDS Brain Training 2 - 290,021 (704,578)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS - 132,991 (1,515,219)
3. NDS Mario Kart DS - 114,709 (951,187)
4. NDS Brain Training - 113,860 (1,271,730)
5. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 - 98,434 (231,160)
6. PS2 Kingdom Hearts 2 - 83,200 (967,629)
7. NDS Gentle Brain Training - 62,664 (998,199)
8. NDS Tamagotchi - 61,834 (846,371)
9. NDS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue - 57,065 (629,923)
10. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red - 48,729 (607,185)

DS games - 8/10


01/09-01/15

1. NDS Brain Training 2 - 141,307 (845,885)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS - 50,032 (1,565,251)
3. NDS Brain Training - 49,774 (1,321,504)
4. NDS Mario Kart DS - 39,182 (990,369)
5. PS2 Gun Parade Orchestra - 35,709 NEW
6. PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 34,937 (377,138)
7. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II - 32,880 (1,000,509)
8. NDS Mario & Luigi 2 - 29,639 (260,799)
9. NDS Gentle Brain Exercises - 25,780 (1,023,979)
10. NDS Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop! - 24,550 (870,921)

DS games - 7/10


01/16-01/22

1. NDS Brain Training 2 - 100,538 (946,423)
2. NDS Animal Crossing DS - 79,363 (1,644,614)
3. GCN Super Mario Strikers - 74,209 (74,209)
4. NDS Brain Training - 48,833 (1,370,336)
5. NDS Mario Kart DS - 37821 (1,028,190)
6. PSP Monster Hunter Portable - 28,513 (405,651)
7. NDS Tamagotchi - 22,843 (893,764)
8. NDS Biohazard Deadly Silence - 20,380 (20,380)
9. NDS Gentle Brain Training - 19319 (1,043,298)
10. NDS Mario & Luigi RPG 2 - 18669 (279,468)

DS games - 8/10

I dont think even PS2 had a performance like this in the past.

Maybe the amount of DS/Nintendo vs PSP/Sony games every week is something I could add to the chart... if ppl interested...
 
jgkspsx said:
Come now. The Japanese gaming market is totally saturated with PS2s now -- it's the end of a generation.

PS3 *will* sell, and so will Revolution, but for now DS and PSP are systems that people don't own yet. It's no surprise they're outselling consoles.

Tell that the US gamers, where both PS2 and GBA are outselling PSP and NDS.
 
cvxfreak said:
It's circular logic. To make an original, they need to establish a foothold in the DS with a port.

...why? It's certainly a way of doing it, but there's really no reason they need to do it that way.
 
By the way, Everything and Nothing has been updated with just about every major DS release since launch:

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japtotals.php?console=DS

Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 1,742,000
Brain Training DS Nintendo 1,686,000
Brain Flex DS Nintendo 1,264,750
Nintendogs DS Nintendo 1,199,500
Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 1,138,250
Brain Training 2 DS Nintendo 1,068,250
Wario Ware Touched DS Nintendo 975,000
Tamogotchi Connection: Corner Shop! DS Bandai 961,750
Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 929,750
Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Blue DS Nintendo 711,750
Jump Super Stars DS Nintendo 546,000
Daredemo Asobi Taizen DS Nintendo 436,500
Pokemon Dash DS Nintendo 397,000
Kirby: Canvas Curse DS Nintendo 321,000
Mario & Luigi 2: Partners In Time DS Nintendo 319,750
Pokemon Trozei DS Nintendo 284,750
Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest 2 DS Enix 246,250
Naruto 3 DS Tomy 229,000
Dragonball Z DS DS Bandai 225,250
Yoshi: Touch and Go DS Nintendo 221,500
Jam With the Band DS Nintendo 199,500
Super Princess Peach DS Nintendo 183,000
Mushi King: Greatest Champion DS DS Sega 146,250
Naruto RPG 2 DS Tomy 136,250
Harvest Moon: Colobocle Station DS Natsume 129,250
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS Konami 125,000
Another Code DS Nintendo 124,000
Polarium DS Nintendo 114,500
Feel the Magic XY/XX DS Sega 105,250
Power Pocket Koushien DS Konami 105,250
Yugioh: Nightmare Troubadour DS Konami 103,500
Pac-Pix DS Namco 100,500
Powerful Pro Pocket 8 DS Konami 99,250
Egg Monster Hero DS Enix 97,750
SD Gundam G Generation DS DS Bandai 96,250
Puyo Puyo Fever DS Sega 95,750
Rockman EXE 5 DS Double Team DS Capcom 86,500
Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta DS Spike 82,500
DS Rakubiki Jiten DS Nintendo 66,000
Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan! DS Nintendo 64,000
Harvest Moon: Colobocle Station for Girls DS Natsume 57,500
Meteos DS Bandai 57,250
Prince of Tennis: 2005 Cystal Drive DS Konami 52,750
Mr Driller Drill Spirits DS Namco 51,750
Zoo Keeper DS Success 50,250
Jissen Pachislot: Fist of the North Star DS Sammy 43,750
Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 39,750
Mahjong Taikai DS Koei 37,500
Fullmetal Alchemist: Dual Symphony DS Bandai 36,000
Feel the Magic XY/XX 2 DS Sega 35,500
True Swing Golf DS Nintendo 34,500
Bomberman DS Hudson 34,250
Goemon: Toukai Douchuu DS Konami 29,000
Spiderman 2 DS Taito 28,000
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 26,000
The Urbz: Sims in the City DS EA 25,750
Electroplankton DS Nintendo 25,250
Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus 24,000
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence DS Capcom 21,500
Pac n Roll DS Namco 16,750
Lost in Blue DS Konami 15,750
Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble DS Capcom 13,500

Total: 17,918,250
 
Mama Smurf said:
...why? It's certainly a way of doing it, but there's really no reason they need to do it that way.

That was Minoru Nakai's reason actually, but it makes a lot of sense. RE games are fairly expensive to create, and Capcom wouldn't want to waste valuable resources on an original product if the userbase doesn't fit, so they test it with a port. But then it's circular logic because in order to get the best sales, you'll need to explore with an original game. But to make the investment worth it, you should to test the waters with a port. But the waters will never be truly tested unless you have an original title. But then you won't know if the waters work to begin with unless you try a port. Yeah, so Capcom went with the least risky proposition. I think, when future sales are accounted for, Capcom will have enough of an RE fanbase on the DS to work with.

I'm not too concerned with ever getting an original Biohazard on the DS (or PSP) though. It would be very nice to just get the PSone trilogy on there, and maybe the N64 version of Zero that was nearly completed.
 
ioi said:
DS: 64,515 (210,177, total since January 1st 2006)
PSP: 38,271 (228,714)

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"I don't believe it."

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"That is why you fail."
 
cvxfreak said:
That was Minoru Nakai's reason actually, but it makes a lot of sense. RE games are fairly expensive to create, and Capcom wouldn't want to waste valuable resources on an original product if the userbase doesn't fit, so they test it with a port. But then it's circular logic because in order to get the best sales, you'll need to explore with an original game. But to make the investment worth it, you should to test the waters with a port. But the waters will never be truly tested unless you have an original title. But then you won't know if the waters work to begin with unless you try a port. Yeah, so Capcom went with the least risky proposition. I think, when future sales are accounted for, Capcom will have enough of an RE fanbase on the DS to work with.

I'm not too concerned with ever getting an original Biohazard on the DS (or PSP) though. It would be very nice to just get the PSone trilogy on there, and maybe the N64 version of Zero that was nearly completed.

I see what you're saying, but testing the market with a game that's been ported and re-released all over the place and anyone who wants to play it already has isn't really testing the market at all. The userbase could be absolutely packed with people who'd absolutely love to buy a new RE game, but Capcom are never going to know even if they think they're testing the waters because these people don't want RE1 again.

They'd do better to try RE3, if they insist on going down that route.
 
As of 2 minutes ago you could not order a DS of any color from the online stores of Yodobashi, BicCamera, Sofmap, and Yamada Denki. I'll go to the store during lunch today to pick up todays games but it looks like DS shortages are still somewhat in effect for the country....
 
Mama Smurf said:
I see what you're saying, but testing the market with a game that's been ported and re-released all over the place and anyone who wants to play it already has isn't really testing the market at all. The userbase could be absolutely packed with people who'd absolutely love to buy a new RE game, but Capcom are never going to know even if they think they're testing the waters because these people don't want RE1 again.

They'd do better to try RE3, if they insist on going down that route.

And your statement falls within the circular logic, although to a different degree of implementation. :)

I think RE1 is enough to show that there is a presence of RE fans, and you never know, sales could be stunted thanks to insufficient stock of DS systems as RE is clearly something out of the ordinary for DS fans. RE3 does make far more sense though, and really so does RE2 as that was by far the most popular of all the games. But, at heart this is Capcom's way to celebrating the tenth anniversary of the original RE without having to go all out (they needed biohazard 4 for the holiday season). I think Capcom saw the successes Namco and Nintendo have had with re-releases and tried to do their own. I think Biohazard 2 would do much better, myself.
 
Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 39,750

What the hell? I thought this game did great there?

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 26,000
Lost in Blue DS Konami 15,750
Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble DS Capcom 13,500

Fuck. Good thing Konami made up DoS sales in the U.S. But still, seeing Viewtiful Joe bomb doesn't help trying to convince Capcom to put more games like MM on the DS.
 
Some pretty bad numbers for many quality games on that list:

Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan! Nintendo 64,000(not bad for a niche game, but deserves more)
Meteos DS Bandai 57,250 (total worldwide sales are < than just lumines alone in NA)
Advance Wars: Dual Strike Nintendo 39,750 (got outsold by a pachinko game; nuff said)
Feel the Magic XY/XX 2 DS Sega 35,500
True Swing Golf DS Nintendo 34,500
Bomberman DS Hudson 34,250
Goemon DS Konami 29,000 (I really wanted it to sell better and come to NA )
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 26,000 (thank god for NA sales)
Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus 24,000 (at least NA sales have been good)
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence DS Capcom 21,500 (why no online play capcom :( )
Pac n Roll DS Namco 16,750 (ouch)
Lost in Blue DS Konami 15,750 (not for everyone, but still a good game)
Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble DS Capcom 13,500 (worldwide bomb; has capcom overmilked the brand?)

It worries me a bit that third party support still isn't receiving the sales that they should...ah well, its not like on PSP they would sell any better....
 
GBA will remain on top, but I think PSP could move into second place (though, they are different generations in a way). I don't believe DS will be anything huge...

The PSP is going to bomb like the N-Gage.

I think the DS's price and the impending Pokemon game will keep it ahead of the PSP in the long run.

The PSP will outsell the DS by a decent margin.

No, not until it drops to $199. After that it'll easily repat PSOne's success story.

I don't think you can really base other companies success (or lack of) in this market compared to Sony. What you have in Sony is a company that completely understands their fanbase and knows how to get them interested in it.

I think it's exactly the opposite. People will buy it for the games. There will be almost NO movies and people won't jump to Sony's proprietary audio until the userbase is sufficient to cause the movie studios to release significant content on UMD. As far as the audio goes, not going with MP3 will probably end up being a HUGE mistake.

However, I think most people will consider it a games device first, with the bonus of offering other functions as well.

In the short term DS will outsell PSP 2 to 1. This will be due to popular handheld software (Mario, Rockman.EXE, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc) as well as lower pricing and a launch headstart. PSP will likely have a higher installed base at the end of it's 10ish year cycle however, partially due to lower pricing accellerating sales/growth but also due to the fact that DS will probably only have 2-4 year lifespan. Neither platform will pass 55 million units total (what GBAs managed in just 4 years) however.

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What day of the week did RE DS come out? I wonder how many units it has to sell to be profitable. I can see it stopping betwen 100 and 200k. I figure it'll get a nice boost when the restock takes full effect, and then just peter out.

And wow at Hardware. You have to wonder what the DS would do without the shortage. Even with it, DS is still selling almost twice as much as the number 2 best seller.

And Microsoft... the Xbox360 is so dead... They should be worried, if Revolution has any kind of decent showing in Japan, then they'll have to destroy the it in the rest of the world or else they're going to find themselves in third.
 
mj1108 said:
That is actually scary that they've put up numbers that they have without Pokemon.

The week Pokémon is finally released in Japan, I predict 250,000 DSes will be sold. Even if Pokémon is released the last day of the week. Quote me! =P
 
I still wonder how EoN gets more accurate/higher numbers than Media Create/Famitsu

And it makes you wonder, could Animal Crossing/Brain Trainings be the new (Pokemon/FF/DQ) of Japan? ANimal Crossign is doing blinding numbers as well as the Brain Training series.

With DS selling 600k (MAX) in one week with just those games out, I absolutely SHUDDER in glee thinking what Pokemon would do if it were released in the holiday season (in both the US and Japan at the same time)
 
Danthrax said:
The week Pokémon is finally released in Japan, I predict 250,000 DSes will be sold. Even if Pokémon is released the last day of the week. Quote me! =P

I'm wondering if between Trozei, Dash, Dungeon and the upcoming Pokemon Ranger, if Nintendo already has a sizable Pokemon fanbase on the DS.

I think Pokemon Diamond and Pearl sales may actually be greater than Pokemon RuSa sales, though. I mean, that seems to be the trend with DS releases of Nintendo franchises versus the GBA ones: (SM64 > SMA1/2/3/4, MKDS > MKA, SMiW > (M)MiW). Only Kirby and Yoshi seemed to have dropped on the DS.
 
There was one thing I was upset about with Nintendo and that was releasing Torouze, Dash, Mysterious Dungeon and Ranger before D & P.

I can understand they want some cash, but Pokemon is their Strongest handheld selling point, THE MAIN GAMES. They should've held off all these spinoffs (except maybe one) until after the real games. Just think of all the anticipation it could have caused for the DS if there were no Pokemon games out for 2 years in Japan? When they were finally released it would blow the roof OFF!

But now they might have saturated the Pokemon fanbase on the DS, with 5 Pokemon games there. Oh well, we'll wait and see
 
cvxfreak said:
I'm wondering if between Trozei, Dash, Dungeon and the upcoming Pokemon Ranger, if Nintendo already has a sizable Pokemon fanbase on the DS.

I think Pokemon Diamond and Pearl sales may actually be greater than Pokemon RuSa sales, though. I mean, that seems to be the trend with DS releases of Nintendo franchises versus the GBA ones: (SM64 > SMA1/2/3/4, MKDS > MKA, SMiW > (M)MiW). Only Kirby and Yoshi seemed to have dropped on the DS.

That's a good observation. And I'd say Yoshi and Kirby are outliers -- Yoshi wasn't a "full" game, and Kirby was perhaps too different from previous Kirby games.

Actually, now that you mention it, maybe a lot of Pokémon fans have already bought the DS and the release of Diamond/Pearl won't be as huge a boost as it might have been in the absense of Ranger, Trozei, etc.
 
Danthrax said:
That's a good observation. And I'd say Yoshi and Kirby are outliers -- Yoshi wasn't a "full" game, and Kirby was perhaps too different from previous Kirby games.

Actually, now that you mention it, maybe a lot of Pokémon fans have already bought the DS and the release of Diamond/Pearl won't be as huge a boost as it might have been in the absense of Ranger, Trozei, etc.

I don't know about that. The numbers of the DS Pokemon spin offs have been good...but they aren't astronomical. When Diamond/Pearl come out I truly believe the DS will sell like it has never selled before. I more sold.

wait
 
WHAT??? No Iwata and Miyamoto laughing yet??? This is not a Media Create thread!

Anyway good numbers Nintendo, I expected more from Mario Strikers, maybe we will see a different trend than on PS games in japan:

COnsidering Golf, Tennis, Baseball and Soccer:

In Japan- Sony from best to worst seller: Golf (Minna no Golf), Soccer (Winning Eleven), Baseball (Jikyou) and at last place Tennis (Prince of Tennis?)

Nintendo: Without considering soccer the trend is the exact opposite: Tennis (Mario), Baseball (Mario), Golf (Mario)

I wonder how will Mario Basketball perform?
 
Dengeki:

Super Mario Strikers: 71,000
Motto Nou wo Kitaeru: 98,000 / 994,000 total

Super Mario Stadium: Miracle Baseball: 68,000 / 229,000
 
Great to see DS software selling so well. I'm especially happy to see Animal Crossing sales so high.

I wonder what DS Lite's launch week will be? :)
 
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