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Media Create Software Sales 19th-25th Dec

jarrod

Banned
ziran said:
you think 360 can get that high? maybe. i was think a million would be tough.

the casual japanese gamers aren't taking risks on current software, so how many will buy a 360 just to play the exclusive japanese content? especially when ps3 will be getting major support and most probably all the big franchises.

even though sakaguchi is behind some great looking games, and the other japanese support looks strong, i think because these are new titles they wouldn't even be guaranteed good sales on a ps2 sized user base.

i like the 360 and i'd like it to do well everywhere, but i think it's going to have a tough time in japan.
No, I think 3-6 million is almost hopeless now. I'd be estatic to see 360 hit 1-2 million at this rate.

I just want a steady stream of quality JP content. Hopefully MS can manage that without a sizable JP base...
 

ziran

Member
jarrod said:
No, I think 3-6 million is almost hopeless now. I'd be estatic to see 360 hit 1-2 million at this rate.

I just want a steady stream of quality JP content. Hopefully MS can manage that without a sizable JP base...
i think the japanese developed stuff will sell well outside japan especially blue dragon and lost odyssey, so that should secure a decent amount of japanese support.

look at team ninja, they've done well from xbox. being one of a few exclusive japanese developers on 360 could prove more profitable that being one of many on the ps3.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
I feel so sorry for the Xbox 360, after three weeks it hasn't hit 60K yet (less than half the Xbox launch week). :(
 

koam

Member
Rock_Man said:
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The "EASTER" is a little too much, put it in silently to make it blend with the rest of the chart.

Anyway, according to this chart, DS sold more last week than it did at launch and so did the PSP, impressive.

Fuck that. For all the shit gaming fans have to put up with from Nbots, they shouldn't even get a day to gloat.

And I just bought two fucking Nintendo games today. :p

I'm sorry but what? Sony fanboys are even bigger hypocrites than Nbots. They always shout "damage control" at nbots whenever Nintendo fails at something, but holy shit at the responses we've been getting now the PSP is getting its ass kicked by the DS in Japan.

PSP fans have never been in "second place" (excluding the PSX first few months) but now that they are, they're whining to hell and back. They either go back to USA revenue sales, 3rd party sales, or software tie-ratios in the US. Like that matters, you can sugarcoat all you want but 600K versus 160K is a pretty big gap. Just be happy that the PSP is successful and is the first handheld to be able to be successful next to a Nintendo one.

As far as I'm concerned, the sony fans have had this coming for a long time with all the shit they've said about Nintendo and how the DS would be the next Virtual Boy.
 

CloudNL

Member

Unbelievable, even worse than the Xbox in Japan.
No, there is no way MS will do any good in Japan with the X360. I predict even DOA4 and some Japanese RPG's won't help. The sales will be a fraction higher for a week, but soon it will be 'MS Quality low' again.

Ouch! :lol
 

quetz67

Banned
Fuzzy said:
Just under 500K.
Thanks...so Microsoft will probably break the 1 million barrier with xbox 3

I wonder how the guys at mistwalker feel to develop japanese RPGs for a user base of maybe about 100-200k
 

Culex

Banned
CloudNL said:
Unbelievable, even worse than the Xbox in Japan.
No, there is no way MS will do any good in Japan with the X360. I predict even DOA4 and some Japanese RPG's won't help. The sales will be a fraction higher for a week, but soon it will be 'MS Quality low' again.

Ouch! :lol

Don't kid yourself. Next week's chart should show the Xbox360 doing at least 25k.

Mark my words!
 

quetz67

Banned
These japanese are so unthankful. Come on guys the machine was designed just to suit your taste. No more child's coffin. They shrunk the controller just to fit your tiny hands. They make games to fit your childish minds. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
quetz67 said:
These japanese are so unthankful. Come on guys the machine was designed just to suit your taste. No more child's coffin. They shrunk the controller just to fit your tiny hands. They make games to fit your childish minds. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
PS3. :lol
 

CloudNL

Member
Culex said:
Don't kid yourself. Next week's chart should show the Xbox360 doing at least 25k.

Mark my words!

That's still low. And I bet that the Xbox360 will hit 5000 again a week later.
 

Doogdogg

Member
quetz67 said:
Thanks...so Microsoft will probably break the 1 million barrier with xbox 3

I wonder how the guys at mistwalker feel to develop japanese RPGs for a user base of maybe about 100-200k

They'll probably get more $$$ from M$ than the game will generate there. :lol
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
ziran said:
i think the japanese developed stuff will sell well outside japan especially blue dragon and lost odyssey, so that should secure a decent amount of japanese support.

look at team ninja, they've done well from xbox. being one of a few exclusive japanese developers on 360 could prove more profitable that being one of many on the ps3.
I dunno, I think the big reason Team Ninja did ok on the Xbox was because their games appealed toward Western tastes (i.e., tits and violence). Even then, aside from DOA3 at launch, their games haven't done nearly as well as they should have.

I also don't think the Mistwalker stuff will do all that well outside of Japan. When has the Xbox userbase shown they buy Japanese games, let alone JRPGs?

The reality is, if you're interested in Japanese games, the Xbox/360 is the last place you should be looking. Similar to Western games and the GC.
 

JJConrad

Sucks at viral marketing
That <600k DS total doesn't look nearly as impressive as it did before.
CloudNL said:
Unbelievable, even worse than the Xbox in Japan.
No, there is no way MS will do any good in Japan with the X360. I predict even DOA4 and some Japanese RPG's won't help. The sales will be a fraction higher for a week, but soon it will be 'MS Quality low' again.

Ouch! :lol
How could MS have done better this time?

A large part of the original Xbox's success was due to it being brand-new. It had neither a good nor bad reputation. The majority of its sales came in the first few months of its life, before the stigma settled in. Now the 360 has a bad rep from day one. It'll take more than DoA4 and Blue Dragon to reverse that rep.

However, I don't think anyone expected them to do this bad.

reality is, if you're interested in Japanese games, the Xbox/360 is the last place you should be looking. Similar to Western games and the GC.
Hey now! The GC western support is far better then the Xbox's eastern support. At least the GC got the majority of western multiplatform releases. You should be pointing and laughing at MS, not trying to run damage control. ;)
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
JJConrad said:
Hey now! The GC western support is far better then the Xbox's eastern support. At least the GC got the majority of western multiplatform releases. You should be pointing and laughing at MS, not trying to run damage control. ;)
Well, it's true that the GC has much better Western support than the Xbox/360 have Japanese support, but really, how many Western games are on the GC that you can't get elsewhere?

Perhaps I did overspeak, though. I suppose if you only had a GC, you could still get a good amount of Western games.
 

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
JJConrad said:
That <600k DS total doesn't look nearly as impressive as it did before.

You're just trying to get quoted on the Japanese sales forum, aren't you? Just say BOMBA and they'll be throwing your name around for awhile :lol

merlin said:
Total UK sales up to Dec 17

DS 846,000
PSP 668,600

Where are these numbers from?
 

cybamerc

Will start substantiating his hate
jarrod said:
I just want a steady stream of quality JP content.
But why on Xbox 360? The quicker it dies the sooner developers can focus all of their efforts on PS3 and Revolution.
 

Link1110

Member
who needs western games anyways

*runs*

Western games and Japanese games are good for different things. Western games are mostly designed for (and are more fun with) multiplayer. Sure Tiger Woods is fun one player, but you don't buy sport games for one player, you buy them for when friends come over to play them. Same goes for FPSes and RTS games. GTA and its ilk is the sole exception to this rule, because there is no way to play them 2 player. Maybe next-gen GTA will have the ability to have one player command a SWAT team and try to catch the other player.

Japanese games, such as the REs, Mega Mans, and RPGs are all designed for one player, and don't even OFFER 2 player mode, with few exceptions. (Yeah, a 2nd player can control other party members in Tales games. Imagine how much more fun it would be though to have 2 player vs. mode in Tales games.)
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Most sport games aren't fun in multiplayer either *duck&cover*
 
The only good Gamecube game that are Western developed and exclusives seem to be these. Not to impressive. Some are debatable. The Day of Reckoning games are actually pretty good.

Star Wars Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rebel Strike
WWE Wrestling Day of Reckoning
WWE Wrestiling Day of Reckoning 2
Eternal Darkness

The Xbox does have a few very good Japanese exclusives though.

Ninja Gaiden/Black
Dead or Alive 3
Panzer Dragon Orta
Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
Steel Battalion
Shenmue 2
Jet Set Radio Future

Still the Gamecube did better in the west than the Xbox did in the East. So I don't think it really matters. Even though it does help a bit.
 

cvxfreak

Member
Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
Shenmue 2

Neither of these are exclusive. Shenmue II is exclusive in the US, but MGS2S isn't exclusive on any level.
 

JJConrad

Sucks at viral marketing
BorkBork said:
You're just trying to get quoted on the Japanese sales forum, aren't you? Just say BOMBA and they'll be throwing your name around for awhile :lol
No.. I'm serious! Before, the DS was selling over 600,000 in a single week! Now it's not. It lost some of its sparkle.

Even the Xbox 360 can sell less than 600K a week. BOMBA!! :)



Does any one have last year's hardware sales (ioi I'm looking at you). I could probably find them if I tried, but why would I do that?
Other than the DS' less than amazing, sub-600k sales, everything else seems really bad. Even the PSP seems to only be doing GCN like numbers. PS2, GCN, and GBA all seem WAY down.
 

cvxfreak

Member
JJConrad said:
No.. I'm serious! Before, the DS was selling over 600,000 in a single week! Now it's not. It lost some of its sparkle.

Well it still did. Media Create just didn't receive that many reports like Dengeki did.
 

Akia

Member
JJConrad said:
No.. I'm serious! Before, the DS was selling over 600,000 in a single week! Now it's not. It lost some of its sparkle.

Other than launch I don't think the DS has ever sold this well.

EDIT: These are the highest DS sales ever actually.
 
DS is stomping over the PSP like there's no tomorrow. There is actually no way to avoid it with all those announced games coming to it. Gotta buy one in 2006.
 

cvxfreak

Member
The DS, PSP and GC are the only systems in recent history to actually sell more in a week sometime into the future than they did in their launch periods. The PSP only did it by a thousand, though.
 

Hero

Member
It's a Nintendo Christmas, everyone. Looks like it'll be a Nintendo New Year too.

Or should that be Easter? Hmm.
 

donny2112

Member
Stopsign said:
The only good Gamecube game that are Western developed and exclusives seem to be these. Not to impressive. Some are debatable. The Day of Reckoning games are actually pretty good.

Star Wars Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rebel Strike
WWE Wrestling Day of Reckoning
WWE Wrestiling Day of Reckoning 2
Eternal Darkness

"Good," of course, being a relative term and all, but here are some others.

Star Fox Adventures (Does Europe count as "Western"? I'd think so.)
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Battalion Wars
1080: Avalanche
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (unless it being a remake discounts it)

Mostly Nintendo-published games developed by "Western" developers.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
koam said:
I'm sorry but what? Sony fanboys are even bigger hypocrites than Nbots. They always shout "damage control" at nbots whenever Nintendo fails at something, but holy shit at the responses we've been getting now the PSP is getting its ass kicked by the DS in Japan.

PSP fans have never been in "second place" (excluding the PSX first few months) but now that they are, they're whining to hell and back. They either go back to USA revenue sales, 3rd party sales, or software tie-ratios in the US. Like that matters, you can sugarcoat all you want but 600K versus 160K is a pretty big gap. Just be happy that the PSP is successful and is the first handheld to be able to be successful next to a Nintendo one.

As far as I'm concerned, the sony fans have had this coming for a long time with all the shit they've said about Nintendo and how the DS would be the next Virtual Boy.

QFT.

Not trying to be fanboyish, but seriously, you guys know damn well that Nintendo gets the most flack out of any of the big 3 hardware manufacturers.


And what are people buying the PSP for? I mean, don't get me wrong. At least in Amerikaa people are buying UMD movies, but I thought even UMD movies sold like shit in Japan?
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
Oblivion said:
And what are people buying the PSP for? I mean, don't get me wrong. At least in Amerikaa people are buying UMD movies, but I thought even UMD movies sold like shit in Japan?
We haven't been told how the UMD porn has been doing. :D
 

Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Fuzzy said:
We haven't been told how the UMD porn has been doing. :D

Probably pretty well, the PSP is geared towards "adults" after all. Hmmm Maybe one of the P's in PSP will stand for porn soon!
 

littlewig

Banned
GreenGlowingGoo said:
Probably pretty well, the PSP is geared towards "adults" after all. Hmmm Maybe one of the P's in PSP will stand for porn soon!


When you say adult, you mean teenage boys right? last time I checked, more adults (percentage wise) own a DS.
 
littlewig said:
When you say adult, you mean teenage boys right? last time I checked, more adults (percentage wise) own a DS.


The funny thing is they are still trying to put the kiddy lable on Nintendo, nice try guys, but the DS is mostly owned by adults, i've never even seen a kid holding a DS
 

malek4980

Rosa Parks hater
littlewig said:
When you say adult, you mean teenage boys right? last time I checked, more adults (percentage wise) own a DS.
DS has the adults who want to give there brains a workout, the PSP has the adults who want to give their hands a workout!*









*not through gameplay
 
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