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[xHunter]

Never believe anything these guys say in public:


From this to studio closure in one year.

 

[mayham2199]

And when Hellblade 2 underperforms, I can see Ninja Theory dissolving by year end as well, I hate to say..

I jumped the MS/XB ship over 15 years ago... Sorry, not sorry?

I agree Ninja Theory has to be sweating bullets. Long development time, SP game with basically no replay value, short title. I just don't see this ending well for them.

 

[Chuck Berry]

It'll be pretty much the same as Hellblade, but the fact that it's going to be digital-only, short and €50 is quite telling.

Also Gamepass

No one is going to buy it

 

[Aaron Olive]

 

[Topher]

Redfall will be our most supported game post-launch.
-Phil Spencer

 

[Hohenheim]

Wow.. that's brutal. Tango has produced nothing but great titles. Very sad to see them close down.
Really bad news.

I'd much rather see them stop releasing those mediocre COD games every year, and let the staff use their creativity and skills on real games. But this is a business, and where the money goes.. etc..
Fucking sad.

 

[GymWolf]

They aren't even bad. They're victims of trend chasing pushed onto them by upper managment just like Bethesda was with 76 and Sledgehammer with Youngblood.

Nah, they clearly bleeded talent.

They can't be the same people that made dish and prey.

 

[GHG]

Um....excuse me?

@SneakersSO

Fuck it, get them all here to comment.

DarkMage619 Riky

I would dig up some comments from the Activision acquisition thread but really can't be asked, everyone knows the gist by now.

These brainless jokers are just an extension of Microsoft's PR/marketing teams and will do what's necessary on their behalf across multiple forums and social platforms in order for Microsoft to get what they want. But the moment something goes wrong in the exact way every rational person tells them it will, they are nowhere to be seen.

 

[clarky]

It'll be Ninja Theory next. You dont get to fuck around in iceland for 5 years taking snaps of rocks unless you put out an absolute banger, which unfortunately for them HB2 won't be.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

 

[Bartski]

I bet their destination fucked message contains words like "aligned"

Edit:

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I find it interesting in gaming that when shit hits the fan the entire studio just gets axed. I guess management thinks they don’t have the skill to get another project going next time because like any company out there you can always find them work on another thing if the current product line stinks. You only gas people if the skill set isn’t transferable, or sales truly sinks and there’s no hope in the future. I guess once a studio bombs management has no confidence they’ll make a good one next time and they prefer to axe it or rebuild into a new studio of people.

But at my work let’s say an entire product line sucks and has low sales and will be shut down. Unless there’s no alternatives, the company will move them to other teams or they just make the next product line and wait for sales for that one.

 

[Kacho]

Go fuck yourself

Go fuck yourself

adamsapple got that Xpac heat

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Kinda awkward as I'm the OP of both threads although I'm just the messenger. But maan, this sucks so much. I'm really upset that Tango got shutdown.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Microsoft destroys everything they touch

 

[Alebrije]

It seems We are going to need one of this for Microsoft

 

[adamsapple]

adamsapple got that Xpac heat

 

[IAmRei]

I am waiting for this industry to burn to the ground, so we can start anew.

This is all so fucking dumb.

Western industry? Because its kind of different in asian industry right now. Its kind of screwed in western side right now.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Sea of Thieves is selling very well, and it's on GP, and it's older than Hi-Fi Rush so you can't really state that logically. I think the truth of the matter is, no matter how much I like both games, Ghostwire and Hi-Fi Rush have been released on everything and apparently bombed on everything. GP is possibly the biggest chunk of money they got for both games.

I do agree with you though that there's more to it. Shinji Mikami leaving didn't make much sense either, and his statements were pretty cryptic.

Sea of Thieves is selling very well in Japan? On Xbox?

 

[yazenov]

This is why a lot of us were against consolidation. All the people who were cheerleading MS buying Bethesda have eggs on their faces now. This also shows that GamePass player metrics are bullshit.


MS was boasting about the number of downloads and players on GamePass with Hifi Rush and they still shut Tango Gameworks down. MS is a cancer to gaming and the quicker people realize this the better off gaming will be. They aren’t interested in adding anything substantial to gaming, they are here to be parasites and leech of everyone else’s success.

I can kinda understand them shutting down Arkane Austin (even though Redfall’s failure wasn’t their fault and it was all MS’ doing) but why shut down Tango? Hifi Rush was the best Xbox game released this gen. It was also the best new IP MS has had in years and they still got shut down lol. If that doesn’t prove MS doesn’t give a fuck about gaming, I don’t know what else does.

Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements" amid rumors of poor sales

"We couldn't be happier with what the team at Tango Gameworks delivered with this surprise release"

www.gamesradar.com

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in all key measurements and expectations," Greenburg said. "We couldn’t be happier with what the team at Tango Gameworks delivered with this surprise release."

Hi-Fi Rush shatters the narrative that Xbox Game Pass hurts game sales

Hi-Fi Rush has lapped PS5 console exclusive Forspoken on Steam, despite its availability on Xbox Game Pass.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[MaKTaiL]

I don't care about what anyone says, I loved Deathloop. Sad to see the studio being shut down. You can clearly see how muich love and care they put in the game.

 

[Ristifer]

An absolute clown show.

 

[clarky]

Always fimd it odd, closing decent studios.

Why not just sell them or let management buy themselves out super cheap?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Redfall will be our most supported game post-launch.
-Phil Spencer

Probably should have seen it coming when Starfield got a 60fps update before Redfall

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[BbMajor7th]

Can't blame them though.

 

[samoilaaa]

Official response from Microsoft

so they save studios like the initiative and compulsion games that havent done anything until now

 

[Zheph]

Redfall will be our most supported game post-launch.
-Phil Spencer

This kind of support I presume? 6 men is not a small feat for a coffin

 

[digoutyoursoul]

adamsapple got that Xpac heat

My green brothers and sisters betrayed us, they took that executive boot licker routine and ran with it. It could have been so much different man.

(throws out Xbox underpants)

 

[Evil Calvin]

Hmmmm.......two new IP's and the studios get closed. Get ready for more GAAS and other bullshit sequels. Industry is imploding!

 

[Punished Miku]

Sea of Thieves is selling very well in Japan? On Xbox?

Barely anything is selling in Japan. And all of Tango's games are on PS, so that obviously isn't the reason.

 

[feynoob]

Fuck you MS

 

[Arsic]

Obsidian is next once avowed doesn’t do the numbers they want.

Tango can be easily required by Mikamis new studio if he wants the talented ones from the lot.

I did my part. I bought every Tango game, and aside from EW1, they were all mid at best.

 

[Wastelander92]

The savior of gaming!

 

[T4keD0wN]

See, don't worry fellas. They already did what they wanted, which is probably just all the IPs. The rest is "expandable".
Wouldn't be surprised if they kill Bethesda entirelly and keep Elder Scrolls for them.

To be fair according to that ign report at least some of the Arkane devs will move to their other studios and Roundhouse seems to be absorbed by the Elder Scrolls Online studio, situation is bad, but not that bad. At least yet...

Redfall will be our most supported game post-launch.
-Phil Spencer

So relatable to gamers everywhere, uncle Phil is just like my dad.

 

[TintoConCasera]

What can we take out of this? That MS is only interested in big games only and not in smaller ones like what Tango was able to output?

That's just so sad if true. When they announced the Activision deal Phil came out on stage with an Hexen II t-shirt, making me guess (or hope) that they were going to revive some of those desd IPs owned by Activision, like Heretic, Hexen, Soldier of Fortune...

Guess all that was fucking nothing and all we'll see from that deal is more COD than ever.

 

[SSfox]

Microsoft is the worst thing that happened to gaming

And what's even worse is that Sony get inspired by those MS shitty ideas time to time

 

[Bridges]

It’s a bummer Hi-Fi Rush didn’t come to PS5 sooner. Maybe it could’ve saved the studio.

Seems like that releasing stuff for Gamepass day 1 isn’t a viable business model. It’s only a matter of time until the plug is pulled on Gamepass in its current form.

Not sure if Kinect or Gamepass was a bigger commercial flop.

Actually, it seems like it didn't do too well on PlayStation either. I wonder if that was the final nail in the coffin to say "if even PlayStation users aren't buying it, these guys aren't salvageable".

Obviously I don't have the financials to make an informed decision, but if I were running Xbox I'd prioritize keeping Tango around just to keep a Japanese presence.

Also at this point, I don't think there's ever a way to put the genie back in the bottle when it comes to Game Pass

 

[Chuck Berry]

What are the chances they shut down DoubleFine?

 

[balls of snow]

Consolidation is great

Have to make back that 70 billion somehow. You just knew the little guys gonna get crushed once abk deal went through. Absolute bullshit.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Barely anything is selling in Japan. And all of Tango's games are on PS, so that obviously isn't the reason.

My point was that once Shinji Mikami left, people would leave with him and that Microsoft would struggle to recruit people to generally make Xbox games and games that would end up on GamePass Day 1.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

This industry is fuked. The console industry, that is (outside of Nintendo).

Seriously, out of nowhere, this. Arkane Austin I can understand; RedFail was a disaster and no one was gonna play it even if they ported it to other platforms. But didn't Good Guy Phil™ just tout how happy they were with HiFi Rush's critical acclaim? Didn't the Xbox fanbase do the same? It was also one of the first games to get ported over. Microsoft's only internal Japanese dev team....gone, just like that. You can kiss that rumored JRPG goodbye as well, from the sounds of it.

I always knew this type of thing was going to happen with a once-platform holder basically going 3P. Happened with SEGA, happened with Atari, happened with SNK, happened with 3DO etc. But to shut down Tango Gameworks is crazy. That was one of the better Zenimax studios, and added some much-needed variety in Microsoft's output. Very easy now to see why Shinji Mikami left; he literally saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to be out of work once the studio was closed. Considering everything he went through to establish Tango, not to mention cultivate the talent, this one must really hurt for him.

But don't worry, I'm sure some of our swell pals on the Purple Forum will "acktwually" explain why this isn't such a bad thing. I'm sure Vigilante Joker is polishing the final edit of his pitch right now. I hope those who were capping for the ABK acquisition feel their much-deserved shame and realize how utterly moronic they actually were the entire time.

That is one absolute positive to hear in all of this. That MS probably won't be pursuing anymore major gaming acquisitions for a VERRRYYYY long time. So the corporate cheerleading taint-lickers around other parts can STFU about their fantasies for more publisher acquisitions by MS once and for all.

I still think MS might pick up a few studios here and there. Certain Affinity, Crystal Dynamics for example. But it's gonna be at least a good decade if not longer before they even consider eying another gaming publisher. They need to organize and maximize what they've already acquired.

Still though, shutting down Tango Gameworks of all studios is rather insane. They had some of the best potential.

 

[lh032]

so where are all the "Microsoft is a 3 trillion company they can afford to lose money but Sony cant" bootlickers?

 

[Markio128]

Well, that’s some straight up bullshit.

 

[clarky]

Obsidian is next once avowed doesn’t do the numbers they want.

Tango can be easily required by Mikamis new studio if he wants the talented ones from the lot.

I did my part. I bought every Tango game, and aside from EW1, they were all mid at best.

I forgot Mikami had fucked off, kinda males more sense now.

 

[Jibran#one]

At this point honestly Microsoft simply destroys everything they touch
I still can't get over the fact that they are closing tango

 

[Topher]

The savior of gaming!

Dude....just stop. No one said that......wait....what?

sorry adamsapple had to

 

[Kacho]

My green brothers and sisters betrayed us, they took that executive boot licker routine and ran with it. It could have been so much different man.

(throws out Xbox underpants)

As a former ride or die Xbro, I'm right there with you. Breaks my heart to see Xbox fall this far. Hard to believe people still beat the drum for them.

 

[Spyxos]

Holy shit, that's bad. I don't care about Redfall, but Hi fi Rush was one of my favorite games of the year.