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Miyamato interviewed by irate GAFer

Rhindle

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WN: This is the first traditional side-scrolling Mario game Nintendo has made since 1991. Why wait this long to do a new Mario game in the original style?

Miyamoto: Because we'd spent all this time working on 3-D Mario games. And of course, when we had Rare developing the side-scrolling Donkey Kong Country games, we were able to rely on them, which kept us from coming back to side-scrollers for a long time.

WN: But there's still no sign of the long-rumored Mario 128 for GameCube.

Miyamoto: It's still floating around. We're searching for that fundamental idea that's going to drive the next 3-D Mario game. But we're not sure when that's going to jump out at us. We're doing lots of tests with small groups.

WN: If that's the case -- if the design process is still at the point where you're doing experiments and tests -- is it even possible that Mario 128 could come out on GameCube at this point? Or is it definitely a Revolution title?

Miyamoto: We think we want it on Revolution.

WN: So, there will be no new GameCube Mario platform game.

Miyamoto: Right. The Mario team can't create too many games at the same time, so they're concentrating on the Revolution.

Further merciless grilling here: http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,67854,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2
 
Kohler: So, Mario 128. Where the fuck is he?
Miyamoto: We're, uh, still running tests.
Kohler: So you're telling me nothing actually exists and you're just jerking us around.
Miyamoto: Basically.
 
Miyamato?

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:D
 
Miyamoto: ... Because the user interface is going to drive the Revolution software design, that's what's going to make our software stand out. Nobody else is going to be able to do what we do with next-generation game software. So, I can't reveal anything. It's under wraps because it's the big gun.

:O
 
So a lack of asskissing is the same as grilling?

What I'd like is for someone to ask why they think this controller is going to be the solution/selling point, in light of how it's usually software that drives hardware (peripherals included).

Otherwise, the interview is thankfully straightforward. Miyamoto here sounds more like a video game director and less like PR.
 
Good interview!

It's good to know Tezuka's involved with NSMB. Hope he kept some of that crack he was smoking during SMB3...
 
Kohler: Where's Mario 128?
Miyamoto: Mario 128? Listen to this guy? Mario 128 hehehe whats he talk--
**miyamoto knocks over glass off water**
Miyamoto: EVERYBODY RUN!
 
Didn't Miyamoto swear on his mother's grave about a year ago that Mario 128 was definitely coming out for Gamecube? He just spews endless bullshit now, rivalled only by Perrin Whatserface.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Kohler: Where's Mario 128?
Miyamoto: Mario 128? Listen to this guy? Mario 128 hehehe whats he talk--
**miyamoto knocks over glass off water**
Miyamoto: EVERYBODY RUN!
:lol :lol :lol
snaildog said:
Didn't Miyamoto swear on his mother's grave about a year ago that Mario 128 was definitely coming out for Gamecube? He just spews endless bullshit now, rivalled only by Perrin Whatserface.
What? :lol Hell no!

Good interview. He sounds very intelligent this time. Also, he sounds as if he really knows how to get to the non-gamers.
 
nobody can do what they do, unless they release a similar controller. Sony did an update during the life of the PS1.

and I'm bored of 'we are keeping it secret so nobody can copy us'.

Wasn't the last 'big gun' FLUDD?
 
WN: Speaking of which, New Super Mario Bros. for the Nintendo DS is a rather ambitious follow-up to a revered series. Who are the team members working on the game?

Miyamoto:
(Longtime Mario series lead director Takashi) Tezuka and (Zelda series lead programmer Toshihiko) Nakago are heading up the project, and I jump in from time to time. So it's really close to the original Mario team members.

Great news since some people thought it was NST :)
 
Rhindle said:
Further merciless grilling here:

Miyamoto: It's still floating around. We're searching for that fundamental idea that's going to drive the next 3-D Mario game. But we're not sure when that's going to jump out at us. We're doing lots of tests with small groups.

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omg. rev 3-d.
 
miyamoto said:
What's happening with video games is the same thing that happens with anything new and interesting. At the beginning, everybody wants to see what it is. They gather around and check it out. But gradually, people start to lose interest.

The people who don't lose interest become more and more involved. And the medium starts to be influenced by only those people. It becomes something exclusive to the people who've stuck with it for a long time. And when the people who were interested in it at first look back at it, it's no longer the thing that interested them.
:)
 
The big gun now? I'm sure I'm not the only one that's really starting to tire of this, can you even call it marketing? We've seen a nicely designed box, and been promised a revolution. Nintendo still has some promises to deliver on this gen, I guess we can scratch 128 off of the list. I'd be pleasantly surprised if Nintendo amazes us all, but we all know where the proof is, and it's not in vague references and secrecy.

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dog$ said:
What I'd like is for someone to ask why they think this controller is going to be the solution/selling point, in light of how it's usually software that drives hardware (peripherals included).

Miyamoto said:
Because the user interface is going to drive the Revolution software design, that's what's going to make our software stand out. Nobody else is going to be able to do what we do with next-generation game software.
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snaildog said:
Didn't Miyamoto swear on his mother's grave about a year ago that Mario 128 was definitely coming out for Gamecube? He just spews endless bullshit now, rivalled only by Perrin Whatserface.

Yea, he said if Mario 128 wasn't at E3 2005 he'd be shamed as a creator or something. Then he started to shut up about that and just pimp Zelda and around comes E3 and nobody cares that Mario 128 is still vaporware :\

I don't really like Nintendo interviews as they always hide all their cards, give almost no information, and then just hype it up like "we won't tell you anything, but when you see it it's gonna be the best thing ever". :(
 
Bebpo said:
Yea, he said if Mario 128 wasn't at E3 2005 he'd be shamed as a creator or something. Then he started to shut up about that and just pimp Zelda and around comes E3 and nobody cares that Mario 128 is still vaporware :\

Actually, I think that was ages ago and even before E3 2004. I'm sure I remember people talking about that Miyamoto quote when it didn't show up last time.

I've been saying for the longest time that Mario 128 was still experimental, but few would listen to me. It's Nintendo's fault though, they shouldn't have spoken about it like they did. It would have been easy to just say they're still experimenting whenever it was brought up (they actually have said that a few times, this isn't the first time we've heard it), but they said stuff like "It's still coming" instead. And they're not lying, it is still coming, but that makes people think a full on game is in development.

Though Reggie was well out of line (or poorly informed) when he said Mario 128 would definitely show up at E3 in some form only a couple of months beforehand.
 
Jeez Miyamoto get back on crack PLEASE!!!!
They don't know the fuck to do with Mario in 3D?? Shit, will i really have to send my designs to them? I can't believe this shit. The futur of Mario in 3D is FREAKIN EASY to forseen.
 
Bebpo said:
I don't really like Nintendo interviews as they always hide all their cards, give almost no information, and then just hype it up like "we won't tell you anything, but when you see it it's gonna be the best thing ever". :(

And then we get Pacman VS.
 
tedtropy said:
And then we get Pacman VS.

:lol Those were good times, I remember Matt Cassamassa before E3 (this is just before he went over the edge): "I know what Nintendo's big game is... to be honest it doesn't sound all that exciting to me - but then again, if one company can make it fun, it's Nintendo!" *twitch*
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Kohler: Where's Mario 128?
Miyamoto: Mario 128? Listen to this guy? Mario 128 hehehe whats he talk--
**miyamoto knocks over glass off water**
Miyamoto: EVERYBODY RUN!


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Moreover, I think that if companies are challenged financially, or are concerned only with profits, they're going to only create things that are safe, products that are proven to sell. And that's what they're going to continue to crank out.

I read this and couldn't help thinking "online gaming".
 
tedtropy said:
And then we get Pacman VS.

Pacman Vs. ROCKS ASS!!

it is the BEST multiplayer game i have.

why you might ask yourself do i feel this way?

because when i have Barbq's and my Non gaming friends come over and my sons mom and other people who could not for the life of them play halo or racing games or fighting games they pic this up and we are having a killer time instantly.

a few drinks later and everyone in the room playing or not is screaming and having a great ole time and to me that is what makes that game so special.

now when my friends who know how to use a controller come over it's a whole nother story.
 
This reminds me of the time that "Mario 128" was simply a GC tech demo showing 128 Marios bouncing around doing nothing and even the name, "Mario 128" was a throwaway reference to that fact. Man, it's almost as if a massive overreaction to that demo led to years of frothy fanboy postulation.

Hey, wait a goddamn minute...
 
snaildog said:
Didn't Miyamoto swear on his mother's grave about a year ago that Mario 128 was definitely coming out for Gamecube? He just spews endless bullshit now, rivalled only by Perrin Whatserface.
Somehow, I can't imagine anyone in any asian culture swearing anything on his or her mother's grave. :lol
 
Are video games in Europe really doing so bad? I thought console and game sales were as high as they have ever been over the last 2 years.

I haven't heard anything good or bad. Can any european gaffers confirm that the video game business is in the toilet over there?
 
http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p1.html
IGNcube: Can you give us an update on Mario 128?

Shigeru Miyamoto: [Chuckles] I'm just really sorry. I think I've given people the wrong impression with Mario 128. With all the questions I'm getting about this, I really feel like I've done people a disservice. In regards to Mario 128, we're currently doing a lot of Mario experiments back in Kyoto. We are definitely going to have a new Mario for Revolution. Whether or not that's 128 or not, I can't really say. It might be a new Sunshine. We're not sure. We're doing a lot of Mario tests right now for the Revolution.
 
Miyamoto: It's still floating around. We're searching for that fundamental idea that's going to drive the next 3-D Mario game. But we're not sure when that's going to jump out at us. We're doing lots of tests with small groups.

:lol Miyamoto is a lying piece of shit. If the "game"(I refuse to believe that it exists at all) is in its experimental...why did they say a couple of months ago that it may appear at E3? Trust in Miyamoto -3000. Total: -100000003000
 
jett said:
:lol Miyamoto is a lying piece of shit. If the "game"(I refuse to believe that it exists at all) is in its experimental...why did they say a couple of months ago that it may appear at E3? Trust in Miyamoto -3000. Total: -100000003000

Yeah, we get the message.

And I didn't realise any Nintendo employee saying anything made Miyamoto a liar.
 
um i don't think Miyamoto is liar, however I believe he is afraid that mario 128 might end up like sunshine and wont release it until it's something fantastic.
 
jett said:
:lol Miyamoto is a lying piece of shit. If the "game"(I refuse to believe that it exists at all) is in its experimental...why did they say a couple of months ago that it may appear at E3? Trust in Miyamoto -3000. Total: -100000003000
First of all, that was reggie who said it, not Miyamoto.

Second of all, if you look at some of Miyamoto's recent interviews, he seems to be genuinely apologetic for how he's let people down with Mario 128.

Third of all, Sunshine was in the "experimental" stages less than a year before it was released, if you take everything Miyamoto says in an interview as fact.

Calling Miyamoto a "lying piece of shit" is a bit harsh, don't you think?
 
I think Miyamoto promised it would be at E3. It's sad that, for the most part, they are able to lie and go unchecked by the media. Somebody call them on their antics.
 
olimario said:
I think Miyamoto promised it would be at E3. It's sad that, for the most part, they are able to lie and go unchecked by the media. Somebody call them on their antics.
It was reggie who promised it, NOT miyamoto.
 
olimario said:
I think Miyamoto promised it would be at E3. It's sad that, for the most part, they are able to lie and go unchecked by the media. Somebody call them on their antics.

Hot damn, let me call channel 7 news.
 
Even if Miyamoto had promised, and I think people are thinking of the Reggie promise anyway, it wouldn't necessarily be a lie or even his fault it wasn't shown. He's certainly a big name at Nintendo and must carry a certain amount of influence, but he does NOT have final say in these things.
 
:lol

Even if it was miyamoto, this is AMERICA, oli. The media is the worst in the world, pretty much, in terms of criticism and asking the tough questions.
 
Like I've said 1000 times before. Mario 128 doesn't fucking exist, can't anyone see that? :lol
 
Grizzlyjin said:
Like I've said 1000 times before. Mario 128 doesn't fucking exist, can't anyone see that? :lol

Yes, I agree. I think he makes that quite clear in the quote I posted. Not only does it not exist, it may never exist.
 
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