Mod that restores 'Male/female' body type from Oblivion Remastered becomes most endorsed mod from the game on Nexus

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One of the very, very small changes in Oblivion Remastered is a switch in the character creator from "male" and "female" bodies, as it was in the original, to "body type 1" and "body type 2. This mod is currently the most endorsed mod on Nexus Mods, with over 32k downloads.

For a few days, Nexus Mods made a point of removing the mod, but due to backlash, the mod was reinstanted and Nexus issued the following statement:

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Man, you would think these distinctions were considered absolute truths and the backbone of human identity since the dawn of time and just a fraction of a fraction of the population finding it to be a hate crime in the last 5 years or something.
 
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I hope console version will have this common sense mod capability. Well, I do hope the developer will just give us an update to the console to have an option to have the common sense male and female choice and not force and push twisted gender ideology agendas to our throats.
 
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I personally prefer actual mods that make significant changes to a game and enhance the experience instead of mods that just exist to make a statement, but whatever makes people happy.
 
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Skifi28 said:
I personally prefer actual mods that make significant changes to game and enhance the experience than mods that just exist to make a statement, but whatever makes people happy.
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I see it no differently than your standard community bug fixes mod. This "body type 1/2" nonsense is an aberration, and the mod is simply fixing it like any other bug or glitch.
 
Skifi28 said:
I personally prefer actual mods that make significant changes to a game and enhance the experience instead of mods that just exist to make a statement, but whatever makes people happy.
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Some would consider having batshit ideology shoved in your face at step 1 of character creation pretty radical but luckily you're free to download or ignore whatever mods you like.
 
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its not that the mod exists or not, but that they choose to ban it in the first place when big boob and nude mods and all sorts of stuff are allowed.

i wouldn't care if someone made a body 1/body2 mods to replace female/male in games either. (are there any?) It be up to the mod user community if they use it.
mods are a choice, unless its something illegal, have at it with your male/female sex type mod with giant boobies and penises.
 
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Since people are going to jump all over this, I'd like to highlight a portion of Nexus' response (bolded):

Community Notice Regarding This Mod

This mod has been, and likely will continue to be, a source of controversy within the community. After a thorough review, we've determined that the content of the mod itself does not violate our community guidelines. However, due to the nature of the topic, which often attracts intense and sometimes hostile discussion, the comments section will remain locked to prevent further escalation.

Why was the original upload removed?
There has been a lot of speculation and misinformation regarding the removal of the original upload. To clarify: the mod was not taken down because of its content. As stated in the ban notice, it was removed due to the uploader's behaviour. In the comments, the uploader expressed an intent to incite drama and endorsed an external site explicitly designed to host inflammatory content. This kind of behaviour directly violates our community standards.

We recognise that mods like this can bring sensitive discussions around gender and identity to the forefront. While these are important conversations, our platform exists to support creative expression in modding, not to serve as a battleground for broader cultural or political debates. What we will not tolerate is trolling, harassment, discrimination, or any other form of toxicity that these discussions may provoke.

Our commitment remains the same: to keep modding accessible and welcoming for everyone.

Please note:
  • Any reuploads of this content - or any derivative content intended to circumvent this policy - will be removed.
  • Abusive behaviour in comments or posts will result in moderation actions.
  • There is no need to report this mod page. If you'd prefer not to see this content, we encourage you to make use of the content-blocking tools by blocking the "Real World Issues" tag or the author "7H3LaughingMan".
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... which is the part where I would normally say 'I don't know how honest the moderation team is being, but consider all this fairly' until I saw the link to the ban notice they had helpfully included in the above post. (Notable part bolded)

Account Banned - Ultraporing

Ultraporing has been banned from Nexus Mods for violating our community rules.

Reason

Posting an intentionally-antagonistic mod with intention to evade the rules. The mod altered the "body types" in the Oblivion Remake from "1" and "2" to "male" and "female." While the modification itself is not inherently a problem, the intention of the author is the problem.When a user reported that they had archived the mod on a website dedicated to archiving TOS-breaking content on Nexus Mods and other modding websites with a particular focus on bigotry, the author replied: "Awesome, thanks for picking up on my intentions o7"From our File Submission Guidelines:"Files that remove gender identity including pronouns from a game that have been intentionally put in place by a game developer, when the removal is clearly to be divisive or cause hostility within the community or marginalise specific group(s)."

Reference

Below are links to where the infractions took place (where relevant). Some links may point to hidden, deleted or restricted content that can only be accessed by moderators.

Moderation History

Banned by BellCube. This member received 0 formal warnings before they were banned.
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I haven't dug further down the rabbit hole for context but that's a little shaky. Without more context I can't read how the Nexus moderator determined what the author's intentions are. And is the website referenced that bad? No further sourcing is provided.
 
Good that they are not banning such mods anymore, but I honestly do not care if it says body type a/b or 1/2 or male/female

I see tits? Its a woman
 
Paltheos said:
Since people are going to jump all over this, I'd like to highlight a portion of Nexus' response (bolded):



... which is the part where I would normally say 'I don't know how honest the moderation team is being, but consider all this fairly' until I saw the link to the ban notice they had helpfully included in the above post. (Notable part bolded)



I haven't dug further down the rabbit hole for context but that's a little shaky. Without more context I can't read how the Nexus moderator determined what the author's intentions are. And is the website referenced that bad? No further sourcing is provided.
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They wouldn't have had to upload on another site if they knew nexus would leave it alone. That's called competition, and some crazy overreach to ban people over. Nexus is just upset they're finally feeling the pressure and losing revenue over this, which speaks volumes on their supposed "morals" when money gets involved and they do a 180. It sounds like DEG mods is trying to become more decentralized, which is far more preferable if you want to keep artistic expression even, instead of having these wack job mods banning stuff.
Bernardougf said:
As a plastic surgeon I would be very careful with this assessment on your daily life
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I bet you have a few fun stories
 
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Skifi28 said:
I personally prefer actual mods that make significant changes to a game and enhance the experience instead of mods that just exist to make a statement, but whatever makes people happy.
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Except this mod brings back the original setting. You could say what they did in the remaster is a statement, not this.
 
Plague Doctor said:
Man, you would think these distinctions were considered absolute truths and the backbone of human identity since the dawn of time and just a fraction of a fraction of the population finding it to be a hate crime in the last 5 years or something.
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In many countries even today these people would be slapped by the side of their heads whenever they start spouting this bullshit at a younger age to nip this mindvirus in the bud before it spreads like it has in the west.
 
The whole Body Type A/B thing has always been really weird.

As others have pointed out, that's still a binary option, and is no different from simply offering Male / Female.

If you wanted to do "Body Type", then you need to have A, B, C, D, E, F, G ...

And at that point, people would simply call it confusing, and request it be kept simple.
 
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Good. Most people don't give a shit what they call body type options. I'd never even notice. I do realize the people pushing this crap are borderline insane and are helping to ruin this industry among. It's a losing battle, the majority are fed up.
 
Duchess said:
The whole Body Type A/B thing has always been really weird.

As others have pointed out, that's still a binary option, and is no different from simply offering Male / Female.

If you wanted to do "Body Type", then you need to have A, B, C, D, E, F, G ...

And at that point, people would simply call it confusing, and request it be kept simple.
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Sometimes it's used to blur things and have the "body type" only impact the overall shape of the body, but not the rest.
There are several games where you select your body type, and it only changes your shape, but you still have to select a voice "type" indepently, and all the options are merged, like all the hairstyle, even facial hair etc are available for both "types".

It's truly terrible because by trying to merge all options like this, to be "inclusive", you end up with editors where you can't make a truly male or female character, but just a weird result inbetween that never looks satisfying. It's mostly true for female, in some games it's quite hard to make a convincing female looking character because of that, it always retains some masculine traits.
 
Downloaded it now in case it gets removed. Can't believe a male and female option in a character creator is controversial but here we are.
 
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