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Previously unknown Mozart music discovered in German library

Piece dating from 1760s, probably composed when Mozart was in his early teens, uncovered by researchers in Leipzig

www.theguardian.com

The piece dates to the mid to late 1760s and consists of seven miniature movements for a string trio lasting about 12 minutes, the Leipzig municipal libraries said in a statement on Thursday

The newly discovered manuscript was not written by Mozart himself but is believed to be a copy made in about 1780, the researchers said.

The piece is referred to as Ganz kleine Nachtmusik in the catalogue, according to the Leipzig libraries.

Pretty big news. I'm surprised I didn't hear about this earlier. It seems a lot of discoveries recently are right under our noses, so I'm sure we'll hear more of this kind of stuff as we digitize more material

 

[Hookshot]

This might be it. I just put it into google lol

 

[E-Cat]

It’s good that it was discovered now. In 5-10 years, you couldn’t tell whether or not it was produced by an AI.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Boomers gonna be happy I guess but whatever your time has passed bateoven make room for the new generation with some real music we got kendick Lamar, lil nas x, calvin Harris’ laptop and all the other good stuff
Doubt zane low will do an apple one interview with this judges wig wearing loser x

 

[Ownage]

Boomers gonna be happy I guess but whatever your time has passed bateoven make room for the new generation with some real music we got kendick Lamar, lil nas x, calvin Harris’ laptop and all the other good stuff
Doubt zane low will do an apple one interview with this judges wig wearing loser x

Don't forget Joey Bada$$ and A$AP Yams.

Yams.

 

[Mozart36]

Glad to hear that. Took them long enough.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Doubt zane low will do an apple one interview with this judges wig wearing loser x

God zane lowe is such an insufferable cringe cunt. I can only listen to the zane lowe show when he's not there and the two other guys take over.

 

[Toons]

Crazy to think how many pieces could be lost to time from him and other composers

 

[Hookshot]

Crazy to think how many pieces could be lost to time from him and other composers

Think of the losses in the Libraries of Alexandria and Baghdad, so much ancient music gone along with everything else.

 

[Big Baller]

Boomers gonna be happy I guess but whatever your time has passed bateoven make room for the new generation with some real music we got kendick Lamar, lil nas x, calvin Harris’ laptop and all the other good stuff
Doubt zane low will do an apple one interview with this judges wig wearing loser x

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Let's celebrate the return of Mozart with this game

 

[AJUMP23]

Releasing music 300 years later and still being relevant is a good flex.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Sorry mods…didn’t realize I couldn’t post that .gif.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Making copies of Mozart in 1780 is weird

 

[MrA]

Great now kochel needs to start over

 

[Chronicle]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It’s good that it was discovered now. In 5-10 years, you couldn’t tell whether or not it was produced by an AI.

If you are a passionate of classical music - that will never happen. A machine will never make a piece a human will - all the mood and playing will be lost. I like to think of this as Chinese kids vs. the world - they can play a piece titled “Old cathedral” perfectly, but their music has no soul, they don’t understand the concept of an old cathedral. AI will be exactly like Chinese kids - note perfect, yet incredibly flawed when it comes to expression.

 

[E-Cat]

If you are a passionate of classical music - that will never happen. A machine will never make a piece a human will - all the mood and playing will be lost. I like to think of this as Chinese kids vs. the world - they can play a piece titled “Old cathedral” perfectly, but their music has no soul, they don’t understand the concept of an old cathedral. AI will be exactly like Chinese kids - note perfect, yet incredibly flawed when it comes to expression.

I think about this often, it’s definitely a part of a larger philosophical discussion.

 

[kevboard]

yooo, Beethoven do be oddly quiet since this dropped

 

[SlimySnake]

I wrote this song in 1794.

 

[kruis]

It’s good that it was discovered now. In 5-10 years, you couldn’t tell whether or not it was produced by an AI.

Music researchers generally scour physical archives with century old documents, not Youtube Shorts.

 

[E-Cat]

Music researchers generally scour physical archives with century old documents, not Youtube Shorts.

I wasn’t speaking from a perspective of its authenticity couldn’t be ascertained.

 

[kevboard]

I wasn’t speaking from a perspective of its authenticity couldn’t be ascertained.

I am pretty sure we can already write notes on a piece of paper without AI.
so not sure how it would any different with or without AI.

even classical music experts and composers can not 100% distinguish modern compositions from authentic classical music.

so any composer out there who's good enough could compose a fake Mozart piece. then the rest would be about convincingly fake the actual historical artefacts. you could maybe get a hold of old, period accurate pieces of paper and ink, and then fake these too.

neither of these things would be made easier by AI. the latter one might be near impossible to forge actually as even with all that effort you could probably find out when the notes were actually written

 

[E-Cat]

I am pretty sure we can already write notes on a piece of paper without AI.
so not sure how it would any different with or without AI.

even classical music experts and composers can not 100% distinguish modern compositions from authentic classical music.

so any composer out there who's good enough could compose a fake Mozart piece. then the rest would be about convincingly fake the actual historical artefacts. you could maybe get a hold of old, period accurate pieces of paper and ink, and then fake these too.

neither of these things would be made easier by AI. the latter one might be near impossible to forge actually as even with all that effort you could probably find out when the notes were actually written

No composer alive is good enough to compose a fake Mozart piece, imo.

Obviously, they can write in the style of Mozart or Haydn, but that’s not the same thing.

Technical brilliance aside, there’s no accounting for taste (or lack thereof).

 

[BlackTron]

Making copies of Mozart in 1780 is weird

Copy machines weren't around back then. You made a copy by hand or there was only one in the whole world. Scholars just wrote shit constantly.

 

[kevboard]

No composer alive is good enough to compose a fake Mozart piece, imo.

Obviously, they can write in the style of Mozart or Haydn, but that’s not the same thing.

Technical brilliance aside, there’s no accounting for taste (or lack thereof).

I don't think all of his pieces are on a level that can't be faked. the first movement of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik for example is iconic, but... come on... there are people that could emulate that style convincingly.
finding new unreleased music can also point towards it being scrapped by him, because he thought it wasn't good enough to actually go public with.

 

[E-Cat]

I don't think all of his pieces are on a level that can't be faked. the first movement of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik for example is iconic, but... come on... there are people that could emulate that style convincingly.
finding new unreleased music can also point towards it being scrapped by him, because he thought it wasn't good enough to actually go public with.

It’s possible to get close, I agree. The non-musical population probably can’t tell Mozart and early Beethoven apart. For differentiating between some Mozart and Haydn takes a keen ear. I’m not saying everyone can do it.

Or take Prokofiev’s Symphony No. 1, it has most of the hallmarks of Viennese classical, but is written in an ironic style.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Now we need some new music from Pac