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[NetMapel]

Samsung YP-T5H

MPIO FL100

My budget is a bit low, otherwise I would go for an IPod. But, given my situation, I am having a hard time deciding which one to get.

YIPP
- Can it read Chinese ? I have some Chinese songs
- Bad music quality (It's not bad, but supposely worse than the MPIO one)
- Too small, so all the buttons are cramped. Screen is hard to see
+ Size is small
+ Longer battery life
+ Design is pretty nice
+ Extremely easy to use, drag & drop music... etc

MPIO
- Earbuds suck, recommended to get new one
- Easier to break
- No drag & drop function ? (not sure about this one)
+ Can read Chinese
+ Upgradable memory (How much does it costs, or is it free ?)
+ Nice design
+ Screen is easy to see, buttons are easy to navigate
+ Leather cover to put the player in for protection

They are the exact same price, I am having a delimma >_< Help me, GAF !

 

[nitewulf]

save up a bit more money and get something with a microdrive of at least 4 or 5 gig capacity. 128/256 or even 512 CF card/microdrive based players arent worth it in the long run.

 

[Fresh Prince]

If you want a flash player I'd recommend you go with an iRiver. Also generics aren't too bad as a short-midterm solution either.

 

[Seth C]

I don't know that you should consider this an official suggestion, but I couldn't buy anything called "Yipp."

 

[ChumsGum]

Another $50 and you can get a Dell Pocket DJ for $199. 5 gigs of music and 10 hours of batt life.

 

[CeruleanSilver]

I don't know about the YIPP, but I'll put in a good word for the MPIO. I've had one for over a year and it has served me well. Looking at your points:

- Earbuds suck, recommended to get new one

Yeah, I bet they do... all free buds suck.

- Easier to break

I take mine to the gym and go running with it, and never felt like it was in danger. I guess if you roughed it up in your backpak it might not like that, but it's solidly build for such a tiny thing.

- No drag & drop function ? (not sure about this one)

Not sure what you mean by "no drag and drop". It does not show up as a USB mass storage if that's what you mean. Really this was the only negative that made me hesitate to purchase the FL100. You have to use iTunes on the Mac, or their transfer software on Windows (I don't know if it works with WMP, never use it). But the interface is drag and drop, if that's all you're concerned about. It's never been a problem for me, but it is still lame.

+ Upgradable memory (How much does it costs, or is it free ?)

You have to buy memory cards for it, of course.

+ Screen is easy to see, buttons are easy to navigate

Absolutely. It's very easy to navigate the controls, even without looking at the player. This is big plus when it's strapped to your arm at the gym, or running in the dark.

Anyways, basically I recommend it. It's been a pleasure to own.

 

[fart]

spend a little more and get a microdrive player or a cheaper HARD DRIVE PLAYER like the dell DJ that was recommended. you might be able to find an ihp-120 for around 200, or at least a rio karma. flash players aren't worth it because they have very little (very expensive) storage and reduced functionality (since manufacturers tend to reserve the engineering resources for their flagship drive products) unless your environment is going to be really harsh on the player or you find one for like 20 bucks

 

[NetMapel]

Fixed disk player ? What's that ? Also, what's wrong with flash players ?

 

[CeruleanSilver]

Disk players are just MP3 players that use a small hard drive to store your music instead of a flash card. Hard drive space is much cheaper than flash card space, so for the same amount of money you will get gobs more storage. The downside is that hard drives are heavier. There are also some concerns about hard drives and lots of shaking.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Basically it come down to what you intend to use if for:
Flash = excercise, jogging etc
Harddisk = everything else

 

[Pochacco]

I can see certain applications for Flash Players...
...but really, you should go for a HD-based player.

Personally, if I were to ever get a flash player, I'd just get a PDA or smartphone instead.

 

[wandering goat]

Out of the two, I'd go with the MPIO but if you're in the market for a flash player then I would recommend you go with the new Rio Forge. It costs a bit more but it has more battery life, USB 2.0 transfer, better sound quality, and Rio's great menu system and software.

 

[nitewulf]

the dell pocket DJ that was posted would be ideal IMO. let me give you a run down of mp3 players storgae media. there are solid state memory players that store data on CF cards or Smart Media cards, these cards have no movable parts. therefore they are very sturdy and also don't waste much battery power. but usually you are stuck with very little included memory like 128 MB. and to upgrade would cost you a lot.
but the players that can take CF cards also accept CF type 2 cards which are microdrives. microdrives are micro sized hard drives developed by IMB. they do have moving parts, but they are very sturdy, much more so than regular harddrives. so if you're worried about breaking it, dont worry too much. my old mp3 player had a microdrive and i dropped it many times w/o any damage. you may also note that the ipod mini uses a microdrive, as well as the dell pocket dj. microdrives use a bit more power than solid state cards, but they are also a lot cheaper. but still quite expensive compared to hard drives.
then there are players that uses regular miniature hard drives to store data, like the ipod, and the iriver ihp series. hard drives are the cheapest but also waste the most power. but these players themselves are the most expensive as they are the industry standards, are usually quite high end.

 

[Fantasmo]

iRiver 700 series or 800 series for Flash based players. (I own one)

Creative Muvo2 or iRiver 20/40gig (forget the name) for Hard drive players. (I researched these)

iPod is nice if you have a lot of cash.

 

[BTMash]

If you can, try and save up for one of the dell pocket DJs. My friend (Winged Creature) has a Dell DJ and I thought it sounded great. Its build also felt very study. Will also be able to hold a heck of a lot more songs.

 

[Saturnman]

If you're clumsy, a Flash-based player might still be better. At least you know it will probably survive a fall.

 

[Fresh Prince]

If you're clumsy, a Flash-based player might still be better. At least you know it will probably survive a fall.

My iPod survived a fall.....two of them
My heart stopped for a bit.....twice

 

[El Papa]

I just bought the 256MB Samsung Yepp and I'm perfectly happy with it. I can fit about 64 songs on it, give or take, which is fine for me for a day or two. When I want a change, I just plug it in and exchange songs. The sound quality is great, don't know why it's a minus on your list. The buttons are no problem for me at all, and the screen is perfect. The best thing about it is that it's small, so I can hang it on my neck at work or put it in my pocket when I work out. I had actually done a lot of research on MP3 players before Thanksgving, then I went to Fry's and the Yepp was one of the few in stock that had gotten mostly positive reviews from the places I checked. So I bought it, it's cool, it even has an FM tuner and a mic for voice recording, oh, and one of the reviews I read said that it could display chinese, not sure which character set though, it can display korean.

 

[cybamerc]

What about the Creative Muvo Micro N200? It's very small, very light, looks decent, comes in sizes up to 1 GB, support USB2.0, is reasonably priced.