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MPAA targets TV-downloading sites
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Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I hope the MPAA people all get the bubonic plague.
Phoenix
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This is one area where I wish the MPAA would get some more sense and tact. This is an item that doesn't cost the user anything to normally view so putting restrictions on it is odd to begin with. Further it is an area where the networks could solve this problem themselves by providing online downloads for the shows themselves (to some limited degree). If they would provide that service (and yeah put in your ads, that's fair), then I can see a reason to target torrent network site. While the activity of downloading TV shows isn't legal (copyright violation and no fair use doesn't help because fair use only protects you making copies of items for yourself, not making copies for others), it seems a happy medium could be found that would benefit both parties.
PotatoeMasher
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Link1110 said:
CBS = Viacom = Paramount = Comedy Central = MTV etc. etc. etc.
this interconnected world we live in!
These people are so fucking retarded.
I used to use btefnet to download TV shows and watch them on my PSP on the way into work - a place where I couldn't watch TV before. I actually found a few new shows that way. Now I'm just not going to watch them.
Reasons like this are why I hate my country and the corporate mindset. Whatever happened to "innovation" and "giving the customer what he wants"? Now we're all just a bunch of criminals to them.
I used to use btefnet to download TV shows and watch them on my PSP on the way into work - a place where I couldn't watch TV before. I actually found a few new shows that way. Now I'm just not going to watch them.
Reasons like this are why I hate my country and the corporate mindset. Whatever happened to "innovation" and "giving the customer what he wants"? Now we're all just a bunch of criminals to them.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Mr Gump said:
that does not work, for shame , I loved that site.
Sure the shows are free on network TV, but with TV shows selling very well on DVD I bet the MPAA thinks their losing a lot of money.
I myself have bought a lot of TV DVD's including:
ST: TOS season 1-3
ST: Next Gen season 1-7
ST: DS9 season 1-7
ST: Voyager season 1-7
ST: Enterprise season 1
Simpsons season 1-5
Futurama season 1-4
Family guy season 1-3
Seinfeld season 1-3
MacGuyver season 1
Babylon 5 season 1-5 + movie collection
Knight rider season 1
A-Team season 1
Quantum leap season 1
Batman animated series season 1
I myself have bought a lot of TV DVD's including:
ST: TOS season 1-3
ST: Next Gen season 1-7
ST: DS9 season 1-7
ST: Voyager season 1-7
ST: Enterprise season 1
Simpsons season 1-5
Futurama season 1-4
Family guy season 1-3
Seinfeld season 1-3
MacGuyver season 1
Babylon 5 season 1-5 + movie collection
Knight rider season 1
A-Team season 1
Quantum leap season 1
Batman animated series season 1
automagnus
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Most of the shows are free on public TV. Why doesn't the MPAA arrange their own torrents that seed files with advertisements? It opens up a huge market for them and advertisers will love it.
olimario said:
They're not technically free. Anyone that watches these programs over a traditional TV setup also has to endure (or at least find creative ways to ignore) commercials. When you download a show from one of these networks, it's obviously commercial-free, and you can kind of understand their getting upset about that.
I could tape the show (from broadcast television) myself, edit out the commercials, and show it to friends/distribute it to them as long as I'm not recieving any money for it/not showing it in a public venue.
And yet we cannot download the exact same thing?
So much for fair use (and other such things)!
And yet we cannot download the exact same thing?
So much for fair use (and other such things)!
tedtropy said:
I rarely watch commercials anymore. 99% of the time I'll switch to another show while the one I'm watching is on commercial break or just keep flipping around stations until the commerial break is over.
I guess it doesn't matter though because the MPAA (as someone mentioned, why the hell are they involved anyways?) is braindead when it comes to coming up with ways to take advantage of the popularity that downloading TV eps has reached.
Morts said:
Those star trek DVD's are expensive a $100 a pop, paramount knows the typical trekker oh so well. I spend $2500 on them alone. I'm a big trekker so it's worth it for me. I forgot I had curb your enthusiasm, and the office. I took this pic before I bought enterprise, and MacGyver.
:lol
I also have 600 + DVD movies, and anime.
BTW: My job pays well, but I hate it. =(
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm in the mood to watch Band of Brothers now.....
Damn...that picture makes me more resentful of my slightly damaged Simpsons Season Two case...I recently completed my Simpsons collection, actually. Nice to have.
See, here's the thing. First off, who knows how exactly this will turn out...there are a lot of different options, including new rules (Perhaps a 24-Hour Delay on Torrent availability (Just speculating)). Technically, there is a 3 hour gap between many West Coast shows and their EST airings, so there IS an argument for ratings being lost. I doubt it happens very often, but it's an argument that is technically factual, if not logical.
However, if their argument is that it hurts DVD sales...they are idiots. Plain and Simple.
Let's look at Tuesdays at 9pm EST. In that timeslot there are the following shows.
House
Veronica Mars
Scrubs
The Amazing Race
With only a VCR, you can only choose to watch two of these programs. Personally, I watch TAR and tape Veronica Mars. This means that I do not, when home and not at school with my laptop, get to watch Scrubs. And, I haven't even seen a SINGLE episode of House, yet alone been able to watch it on a regular basis.
But, very few people spend money on TV DVDs if they haven't even seen a single episode. While this is happening more often with films with low DVD prices, box sets are not so easy to deal with. People are going to buy more DVDs if they watched the show and loved the show, and want to be able to go back to that show in the future.
If people are watching other shows, however, they're less likely the buy those DVDs. The more shows people watch, however, the more likely they are to get hooked on a show. I guarantee that more people will buy DVDs of shows like Lost if they caught up with Torrents.
Sure, in many situations, it might keep people from watching TV and getting ratings...but the use of Torrents is to watch shows you MISSED, not to stop watching TV altogether. It's illogical on the part of the MPAA.
See, here's the thing. First off, who knows how exactly this will turn out...there are a lot of different options, including new rules (Perhaps a 24-Hour Delay on Torrent availability (Just speculating)). Technically, there is a 3 hour gap between many West Coast shows and their EST airings, so there IS an argument for ratings being lost. I doubt it happens very often, but it's an argument that is technically factual, if not logical.
However, if their argument is that it hurts DVD sales...they are idiots. Plain and Simple.
Let's look at Tuesdays at 9pm EST. In that timeslot there are the following shows.
House
Veronica Mars
Scrubs
The Amazing Race
With only a VCR, you can only choose to watch two of these programs. Personally, I watch TAR and tape Veronica Mars. This means that I do not, when home and not at school with my laptop, get to watch Scrubs. And, I haven't even seen a SINGLE episode of House, yet alone been able to watch it on a regular basis.
But, very few people spend money on TV DVDs if they haven't even seen a single episode. While this is happening more often with films with low DVD prices, box sets are not so easy to deal with. People are going to buy more DVDs if they watched the show and loved the show, and want to be able to go back to that show in the future.
If people are watching other shows, however, they're less likely the buy those DVDs. The more shows people watch, however, the more likely they are to get hooked on a show. I guarantee that more people will buy DVDs of shows like Lost if they caught up with Torrents.
Sure, in many situations, it might keep people from watching TV and getting ratings...but the use of Torrents is to watch shows you MISSED, not to stop watching TV altogether. It's illogical on the part of the MPAA.
UltraMarioMan
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Holy crap in a pita!Lancelet Pink said:
quoted for motherfucking truth.G4life98 said:
tv shows are vehicles for advertisement. the networks should be fucking overjoyed their hollow cultural shells are being exported to impressionable minds all over the freaking universe at NO cost to themselves.
they should stop for a second and look at how much they pay for traditional airtime and how much they are paying for this internet distribution
Read this: MPAA Press Release
Phoenix
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joaomgcd said:
No. Only the copyright owner can sanction legal distribution of their materials/wares according to US copyright law. Other countries will have different laws in this regard but all parties to the Berne Convention pretty follow the same concepts with respect to whether distribution is permitted without copyright written permission (because it has to be in writing for it to be legal).
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