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So, my parents are starting to act crazy. I'm adult. I have a job, and I go to school full time. I make more then enough money to live in apartment and support myself, but my parents don't want me to move out. They say stuff like your house is just going to be party central, and how I will never wake up in time to go to class. BS! They got pissed when I told them "so when I graduate do you want me to live at home so you can make sure I wake up in time for work?" I can't stand living at home. I think I might just find a roomate at school and move out when they go away on vacation in the future.
 
They can't stop you, they're just trying to look out for you, that does happen to a lot of people, I don't see the problem.

Oh, and a blogger joke.
 
How fucking old are you? 16? 24? That's a pretty big factor.
 
Mama Smurf said:
They can't stop you, they're just trying to look out for you, that does happen to a lot of people, I don't see the problem.

Oh, and a blogger joke.
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yeah. well normal 23 year olds don't have their mother go in their room and search around. WTF?
 
I just don't see the problem. If they're doing things that make you want to leave even more...well, you wanted to leave anyway.

Are you afraid of some huge falling out to a degree where you won't even speak or something? That's all I can think of.
 
samus4ever said:
yeah. well normal 23 year olds don't have their mother go in their room and search around. WTF?
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normal 23 year olds live with their mums?
 
Grin, bear it, and put the money you would be spending on rent into a short-term CD or something. Every time you put up with something annoying, just say "HDTV" over and over until you feel better.
 
samus4ever said:
yeah. well normal 23 year olds don't have their mother go in their room and search around. WTF?
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My mom is like that... kinda teetering between, "ah, go do whatever" and, "YOU COULDN'T HANDLE YOURSELF OUT THERE! BEST TO STAY HOME BOYEE!"

I put a lock on my door and she's like... "WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE! STOP LOCKING THE DOOR! RARR!"... of course the response is, "GET OUTTA MY ROOM" then.
 
catfish said:
normal 23 year olds live with their mums?
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no, and that is the problem.

its only worse that she thinks she can just waltz in my room and go through my shit. I even put a lock on the door and she figured a way to get in.

impirius said:
Grin, bear it, and put the money you would be spending on rent into a short-term CD or something. Every time you put up with something annoying, just say "HDTV" over and over until you feel better.
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I already have an hd tv.
 
You just have to firmly and calmly explain that it's time for you, as an adult, to move out. If they still can't accept it, do it anyway. If they're at all reasonable, they'll eventually come around.

Trust me, the exact same thing happened to me when I was 19. My parents were in denial that I would actually move into an apartment instead of coming home from my dorm for the summer, to the point that they still weren't aware/convinced that I had actually moved until a week or so after the fact. They didn't help me at all with the move and didn't even visit for weeks. But eventually, they felt bad, and we reconciled.
 
catfish said:
normal 23 year olds live with their mums?
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Sadly, it actually is almost becoming the norm now. Around here anyway. Ridiculous numbers of people well into their 20s (I'm talking late 20s) still living at home, not even paying rent, so they can just spend spend spend with no thought of the future.

Pretty sad really.
 
samus4ever said:
I already have an hd tv.
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Then.. uh.. just think about how good you'd feel for buying one for a fellow GAFer

Seriously though, if you're in good financial shape, what's stopping you?
 
Dude it's not entirely their fault. Not saying everyone should not be laughed at for staying at home as an adult in their 20's, but for a lot of us it's hard to find a job that will be stable for an extended period of time, allowing you to move out and depend on yourself because you are assured a. job security, and if not that, at least b. the ability to get a job that pays around the same amount right away. If you're making $23,000 - 26,000 at a job you got right out of school but you quit or got fired, and you have bills to pay and your only option for another job at the moment is minimum wage, guess what? That ~$500 a month you pay for rent is going to kill you, on top of your car payements, school payments, money needed just to live, etc.'

You do NOT KNOW how bad I want to move right now. Either somewhere else in the US (either the midwest, or west coast), Canada, or Europe. But you can't do that unless you know you're going to be nothing but successful in what you do and that you will not be floating around from job to job. It's tough out there. A lot of people don't realize that.
 
I'm 24 and I've stayed with my parents for about ~21.5 of those 24 years (am currently staying with them). They like having me around and I don't mind living with them for the time being. I've been able to save some $$ in the meantime and keep good credit, so I should be able to buy a home in the near future.

It just sounds like your parents want the best for you. My parents are nuts sometimes too, but I know they love me.
 
Haha, I am reminded of the recent 'psycho mom' video circulating. :lol

"GIVE ME THE FUCING KEYS TO THE CAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

:lol :lol :lol I have to go watch it again for another laugh.
 
samus4ever said:
yeah. well normal 23 year olds don't have their mother go in their room and search around. WTF?
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Normal 23-year-olds also move out when they damn well please. The worst thing that will happen is that you'll get a guilt trip, but that will subside quickly enough.
 
The immediate group I work in contains people from 22-30 (most in the 23-24 range), and 75% of the people live at home. That makes sense, since it's $1100/mo for single-bedroom apartments. I have to think about saving for a down payment on a house, plus paying off my car (which I would've never been able to afford if I was living in an apt).
 
I'm 23 too, but I'm stuck with my folks because of a bad money situation also (can't quit the piddly job I have now because I have bills, unless I want to go work the graveyard shift at a warehouse or something.) It's pure hell. Just now my father got mad at me because I wouldn't buy him some Subway for lunch, despite me asking him and him saying "no." :\

There's a reason people leave Indiana once they get their degrees, and that's because 1) there's no fucking jobs here, and 2)psychos live here in spades. You have my word on this
 
All of you people are lazy. Move out of your parents fucking houses. Yes, that means living in a shithole with a buddy for awhile. Break out of your comfort zone. Go live life. Start learning your lessons now, instead of when you are 30 years old.
 
ToxicAdam said:
All of you people are lazy. Move out of your parents fucking houses. Yes, that means living in a shithole with a buddy for awhile. Break out of your comfort zone. Go live life. Start learning your lessons now, instead of when you are 30 years old.
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It must have been nice to get a job right out of school that let you afford an apartment. For some people - mostly those who live in the suburbs of, or actually in large cities - it's a lot more complicated than just "move out of your parents fucking houses."
 
xsarien said:
It must have been nice to get a job right out of school that let you afford an apartment. For some people - mostly those who live in the suburbs of, or actually in large cities - it's a lot more complicated than just "move out of your parents fucking houses."
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It depends on the cost of living where you are, too, as well as if you have a roomate or roomates who can take the cost of rent down for you. I've been living in my apartment for over two years now (actually I'll be moving to my second in less than a week) with my girlfriend, and I currently attend college. I do have two jobs (neither of which is a "career" salary job -- one pays $8/hour and the other $10/hour), but I can pay for it with relative ease and still have a little money to save each month.
 
xsarien said:
It must have been nice to get a job right out of school that let you afford an apartment. For some people - mostly those who live in the suburbs of, or actually in large cities - it's a lot more complicated than just "move out of your parents fucking houses."
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That's why you get a roommate. Split the costs. It's not easy, but its quite doable.

Unless your parents state "You are living here until you finish college" (and they are footing the bill) ... there is no excuse to live at home. It's just laziness or the fear of failing.
 
AlphaSnake said:
Haha, I am reminded of the recent 'psycho mom' video circulating. :lol

"GIVE ME THE FUCING KEYS TO THE CAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

:lol :lol :lol I have to go watch it again for another laugh.
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Huh, what? Where?
 
ToxicAdam said:
All of you people are lazy. Move out of your parents fucking houses. Yes, that means living in a shithole with a buddy for awhile. Break out of your comfort zone. Go live life. Start learning your lessons now, instead of when you are 30 years old.
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I'll get started on that right away, sir! Now where did I put that $100,000 to pay off my loans and bills, buy a car, and live in a decent apartment for five years at? Maybe I left it in the coffee can...

And my brother went the "move in with people" route when he fled the nest. Everyone he lived with quit their jobs and he ended up becoming King Suck-er, breadwinner
 
ToxicAdam said:
That's why you get a roommate. Split the costs. It's not easy, but its quite doable.

Unless your parents state "You are living here until you finish college" (and they are footing the bill) ... there is no excuse to live at home. It's just laziness or the fear of failing.
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Yes, because this line of reasoning takes into account possible unemployment out of school, mitigating circumstances that might even make a roommate situation very hard to afford, or loftier goals that would actually make it beneficial to live at home for a year or two (e.g., saving for a house and/or building up credit.)

Not that it's any of your business, but straight out of college - even with a normal job - I couldn't afford to get a place even with a roommate, and I know my situation was not unique in the slightest.

Shades of Oli's old post about being shocked that not everyone could afford housekeepers in this thread...
 
catfish said:
normal 23 year olds live with their mums?
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That's standard in many parts of the worlds. The "kicking your kids out as soon as they are done with high school" thing is pretty much an american thing.
 
ToxicAdam, just curious, did you go to college/university after you graduated high school? And if so, did you have to pay tuition/room & board yourself? Not trying to be aggressive or anything, I just think that's a key point that bears mentioning so we can understand what you're trying to get at.
 
samus4ever said:
So, my parents are starting to act crazy. I'm adult. I have a job, and I go to school full time. I make more then enough money to live in apartment and support myself, but my parents don't want me to move out. They say stuff like your house is just going to be party central, and how I will never wake up in time to go to class. BS! They got pissed when I told them "so when I graduate do you want me to live at home so you can make sure I wake up in time for work?" I can't stand living at home. I think I might just find a roomate at school and move out when they go away on vacation in the future.
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Why don't you just walk out the door.
 
acidviper said:
Why don't you just walk out the door.
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first of all its not that easy. i have to find a room mate, get some furniture, rent a uhaul, and to top that off I go to school full time and work 30 hours a week. I don't have time right now in the middle of school, and I have to wait till atleast the end of september when i get my 2 week break inbetween quaters. (my school goes quaterly btw)
 
Stench said:
ToxicAdam, just curious, did you go to college/university after you graduated high school? And if so, did you have to pay tuition/room & board yourself? Not trying to be aggressive or anything, I just think that's a key point that bears mentioning so we can understand what you're trying to get at.
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I took a year off, then I went to the University of Toledo for 2 years. Worked a factory job (forklift operator) in the mornings (7a -3p). Made about 10.50 an hour. Went to class four days a week 4p-9p (varied from semester to semester).


So I was bringing home about 280 bucks a week. I did my tuition through loans and with parents help (middle class family). I was able to afford a shared upper half of a duplex in a shabby neighborhood. Rent was around 550 dollars a month. So I probably had about 400 dollars a month in utilities and rent. That left about 700 dollars in "play money" (half going to car and insurance).

It definitely wasn't easy. But I still had a blast during those years. When you live at home, you are not growing as a person. In fact, you are wasting your life away ... stuck in a rut. Only through doing do you learn. It's sad to see 30 yr olds who don't have the basic skills of living, balancing budgets or paying bills because they spent thier whole life on momma's teat.
 
xsarien said:
Yes, because this line of reasoning takes into account possible unemployment out of school, mitigating circumstances that might even make a roommate situation very hard to afford, or loftier goals that would actually make it beneficial to live at home for a year or two (e.g., saving for a house and/or building up credit.)

Not that it's any of your business, but straight out of college - even with a normal job - I couldn't afford to get a place even with a roommate, and I know my situation was not unique in the slightest.

Shades of Oli's old post about being shocked that not everyone could afford housekeepers in this thread...
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That's bullshit. With the kind of job a degree can get you (30k-40k a year in most areas around the country). That is more than enough money to afford shared living expenses. Unless you live in a big city of course. Then the scales are off the charts.


i think that some people (not directed at you) get so accustomed to the lifestyle that thier parents provide, that they don't want to settle for less. So they wait until they can afford that lifestyle on thier own. Then when you visit thier nice, huge, suburban home .. its a fucking pig-sty with empty cupboards and a stove that has never been used.
 
ToxicAdam said:
It definitely wasn't easy. But I still had a blast during those years. When you live at home, you are not growing as a person. In fact, you are wasting your life away ... stuck in a rut. Only through doing do you learn. It's sad to see 30 yr olds who don't have the basic skills of living, balancing budgets or paying bills because they spent thier whole life on momma's teat.
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And the strokes keep getting broader and broader...

ToxicAdam said:
That's bullshit. With the kind of job a degree can get you (30k-40k a year in most areas around the country). That is more than enough money to afford shared living expenses. Unless you live in a big city of course. Then the scales are off the charts.
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Well, no shit. But you don't seem to care about that little mitigating circumstance. Not everyone lives in Middle of Ohio where rent is a whole $550/month. In places like New York, San Francisco, or Los Angeles, even a split rent could be as much as (or more than) $800. A person.
 
ToxicAdam said:
I'm sorry if this is hitting too close to home for you. It wasn't my intention.
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It's not hitting close to home, it's just so disconnected from reality. You're claiming to know what it's like to live at home "until you're 30," yet making sure everyone knows that you were never in that kind of situation. Plus, you're ignoring the fact that this is largely an American culture thing, not some kind of universal measure of maturity.

So how would you know? Are you basing this entirely off of what you observe with a few local freeloaders?
 
You don't need to be rich to move out. I moved out when I turned 21 and into a place with 2 friends. I didn't have a HDTV but I did have a Hell of a good time. Sell some of the overpriced crap you all seem to have and get the fuck out already. Damn.
 
RedDwarf said:
You don't need to be rich to move out. I moved out when I turned 21 and into a place with 2 friends. I didn't have a HDTV but I did have a Hell of a good time. Sell some of the overpriced crap you all seem to have and get the fuck out already. Damn.
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How can you be so callous and inconsiderate. How am I going to afford an 1800 dollar apartment in the trendy side of the city, a cell phone, my bills, a car, a fully stocked fridge, my tution, fun money, plus ample time to play all my games and post on the internet???!?!


Why .. why .. I might have to make sacrifices! I may have to actually lower my expectations! I might actually have to save some money. OHNOES. I might actually have to work more hours or get a second job. This is too much I tell you.


I am reflecting on all of the biographies I have read on successful people in various fields .. I can't remember one of them living with thier parents well into thier 20's. In fact, most were out of the house before they turned 20.
 
FiRez said:
Hey! >:(

edit: and FU btw
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:lol

It's time to move out FiRez.

first of all its not that easy. i have to find a room mate, get some furniture, rent a uhaul, and to top that off I go to school full time and work 30 hours a week. I don't have time right now in the middle of school, and I have to wait till atleast the end of september when i get my 2 week break inbetween quaters. (my school goes quaterly btw)
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1 weekend off work is all it will take, once you have a room-mate. Scab some furniture from your parents and get your room-mate to do the same, then move in and complain aout how your new place has none of the nice stuff for a while. your gonna have to do it sometime and being older won't magically make it easier. can't you go live in a hostel/dorm or whatever first?
 
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