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[Firestorm]

Congratulations Crimmy!
If you guys want to see a full break-down of who fought who and such, it will be made available here. It'll appear within 48 hours. Also stay tuned for Jiggy's crazy stats!

Bracket
Click Here to view the entire bracket

Results
1: Crimmy
2: Relix
3: Biggkidd32
4: Iam Canadian
5: BlueSummers
5: Milabrega
7: Nabster92
7: yeb
9: Arol
9: Kwokuen
9: slayn
9: Spruchy
13: Dr.Hadji
13: Killa Sasa
13: layzie1989
13: SuperAndroid17
17: Dechaios
17: Jiggy37
17: Keru_Shiri
17: Manabanana
17: MrCheez
17: PunjabiPlaya
17: shaft
17: teasel
25: Cyan
25: dragonlife29
25: Dreavus
25: OliveJuice
25: Rentahamster
25: Vanish
25: Vlad
25: XiaNaphryz
33: Acerac
33: Bloodwake
33: BudokaiMR2
33: Cowie
33: DeceitDecide
33: Enk
33: funkmastergeneral
33: Halycon
33: JCX9
33: JoeFu
33: KevinCow
33: Mark D
33: scottnak
33: Shanks
33: SixStringPsycho
33: Zeed
49: Baiano19
49: Beezy
49: Blizzard
49: Crushed
49: dfyb
49: Economan
49: Firestorm
49: infiniteloop
49: jibblypop
49: justchris
49: MiggsTheJust
49: Phantom Flapjack
49: rhfb
49: SuperAngelo64
49: Toy Soldier
49: weepy
65: Aladuf23
65: Archie
65: armubaba
65: Ashhong
65: Auron_Kale
65: bigmakstudios
65: bran
65: Costanza
65: Dragmire
65: Fenix
65: Gamer @ Heart
65: Gekkonidae
65: Guled
65: Hatchet Man
65: ICallItFutile
65: JSnake
65: kIdMuScLe
65: Kinosen
65: Kusagari
65: LouieGeetoo
65: Masked Man
65: mattso
65: MGrant
65: Michan
65: Muttyeah416
65: projectkuro
65: Superbank
65: Teknoman
65: tmdorsey
65: viewtiful_dru
65: zaxor0
65: Zozz
97: Akia
97: CassSept
97: CB3
97: crowphoenix
97: Einherjar
97: el jacko
97: Fuzzery
97: HotByCold
97: Kevtones
97: Kirk
97: Malfunky
97: Mii
97: Mike T
97: Mugwhump
97: NeoForte
97: Osaka
97: Phaethon0017
97: PillowKnight
97: RevenantKioku
97: Ril
97: RoboPlato
97: SantaC
97: Schattenjagger
97: Scribble
97: Spirit Icana
97: SS4Gogita
97: Tom_Cody
97: truendo
97: TwinIonEngines
97: usea
97: vertopci
97: WalkMan

The tournament was finished in just under 2 months, which I find to be pretty good for a 128 man online tournament! Again, please thank Michan and MangaBullet for providing the prizes.

Round by Round Breakdown (courtesy of Jiggy37)
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 5
Round 6
Round 7
Rounds 8 - 9
Rounds 10 - 15
Character Usage Stats
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This is the tournament discussion and matchup thread. Please register using the registration thread in the Gaming Discussion forum: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253955

Format
1v1
Double Elimination Bracket
Best of 3
Stock with no time limit

What is Double Elimination? Once you lose, you go to the loser's bracket. You must lose again in the loser's bracket to be eliminated from the tournament. This gives you a minimum of 2 sets. To see how this works, you can see the Pokemon tournament which was run in the same way.

Date
The tournament will begin on March 23rd, 2008. You will have 3 days to complete each round.

Settings
Stock: 3
Items: Off
Neutral Stages: TBA
Banned Stages: None

Set Flow
In your initial PM, please give your opponent the stage you would like to use if you lose the first or second matches. That stage should be picked by both users.

Match 1: Stage picked beforehand by Firestorm.
Match 2: Stage picked by loser of Match 1.
Match 3 (if required): Stage picked by loser of Match 2.

You will not know what character the opponent has picked.

Rules I am not using
The following are NOT in effect if you're familiar with Melee:
- Time limit (this is an online tournament, we don't need to finish 100 matches in one day)
- Dave's Stupid Rule (let's not make this more complicated)
- Banning a stage for the set (again, let's not make this more complicated)

IMO, the flow of sets with counterpicking is important enough to strategy that we should go with it.

Things to set on your game
Both players must set items to off during tournament matches. It randomly picks one person's item settings.
Both players must choose the stage chosen for the match. It randomly picks one person's stage settings.
Host set stock to 3. Otherwise, settings are default.

Prizes
Please thank Michan and MangaBullet as First, Second, and Third place winners will all receive a Virtual Console game of their choice!

MangaBullet is not up yet but will be in May hopefully.

Current Participants (128):
Location / GAF Name / Brawl Name / Friend Code
BC / Firestorm / Fire / 5026-4112-2259
MB / Killa Sasa / BADD / 2191-7323-1308
MA / infiniteloop / Mike / 2664 1813 6346
NY / Milabrega / Mila / 3050-7238-9831
TX / Teknoman / Tek / 2621-2305-2572
GA / Archie / Trey / 3437-2713-4070
GA / tmdorsey / TMD / 0516-6926-0787
NH / funkmastergeneral / Josh / 3780-8698-9498
CA / Ashhong / ASH / 0344-8943-9969
NY / el jacko / JACK / 0301-9469-6018
GA / KevinCow / K.COW / 0087-1962-0793
GA / Crushed / Crshd / 1762-2375-3803
FL / Costanza / ArtV / 1891-0821-6996
FL / Phaethon0017 / PHAET / 3566-1210-4933
GA / Blizzard / BLIZ / 0559-6429-2950
CA / Arol / Arol / 1590-4367-1683
United Kingdom / Scribble / Scrbl / 5455-8667-2901
CA / DeceitDecide / MattB / 5284-1037-1796
BC / Fenix / Fenix / 2062-8843-5247
TN / justchris / Chris / 0645-5451-1017
ON / OliveJuice / Nin / 1934-0346-5121
NY / Zeed / Zyid / 4511-0145-0116
NJ / Vanish / Wrath / 2835-9783-1864
NY / TJ Spyke / Tim / 3909-7181-4553
TX / SuperAndroid17 / Droid / 3737-9185-0838
HI / Superbank/ BANK / 0473 7438 0591
CA / Jiggy37 / Jiggy / 0559-6463-8106
CA /Auron_Kale / Auron / 1934-0338-0983
OR / Kevtones / Kevin / 4167-4181-8718
OH / Masked Man / M@ / 1976-9853-1849
VA / JSnake / HEX / 4854-6058-0132
NJ / Spruchy / Sprch / 1117-9940-7790
NH / ICallItFutile / Futil / 3780-8678-6774
MI / USA / PunjabiPlaya / PUnit / 1848-1327-3489
MB / Kirk / Kirk / 1289-7906-0482
AB / Iam Canadian / CNDN / 5155-2588-5720
PA / RoboPlato / Plato / 1934-0332-5733
NC / slayn / slayn / 3394-3235-6993
TX / JoeFu / JoeFu / 0946-1897-7498
MA / Mii / Andy / 3222-5221-7302
CA / Ganondorf>Link / IDK / 4382-1639-3541
PA / vertopci / Dual / 3780-8720-3539
BC / MiggsTheJust / MiGGS / 3909-7010-4438
FL / Kusagari / Dom / 0001-2974-2666
FL / PillowKnight / Pill / 3083-6730-8438
CA / XiaNaphryz / K.J. / 4511-0161-5640
NC / War Machine / LAHCM / 2277-6292-5816
PR / SixStringPsycho/ Louis / 3265-4737-2064
ON / Guled / Guled / 0130-1473-2405
MI / JCX9 / JCX / 1160-9377-8688
FL / NeoForte / NeoFt / 2363-5317-2389
AL / crowphoenix / Crow / 3480-2201-5692
VA / Cowie / Cowie / 3265-4739-5701
?? / Akia / Akia (me) or Ice (my bro) / 0989 1391 8103
NJ / BlueSummers / ReaL / 5324-4456-3688-2010
VA / Spirit Icana / Icana / 1976-9815-0018
CA / The M.O.B / M.O.B / 1805-1849-1826
TX / Ril / MSCLZ / 4038-5707-0198
OH / Hatchet Man / CJH / 1976-9863-5190
ON / Mark D / Mark / 3050-7305-7641
CT / beanoboy7 / Herb / 1547-4866-4386
AZ / MrCheez / Cheez / 1590-4416-8594
Brasil / Baiano19 / Mart / 0731-4482-5206
HI / Rentahamster / RENTA / 1032-0959-8470
ON / Economan / ECONO / 2621-2270-4954
NY / Acerac / ACE / 4639-8632-7247
Japan / BudokaiMR2 / Budo / 2835-9351-3938
CA / scottnak / Scott / 4468 0630 7508
MN / Manabanana / Colin / 1676-3361-2017
VA / Aladuf23 / Ala23 / 2750-0756-1519
PR / Relix / Relix / 4253 3141 3743
OR / Phantom Flapjack / Rimzy /1891 0838 6258
NV / truendo / PWNER / 5155 2598 7295
CA / Nabster92 / NABIL / 2148-7776-5580
NY / Halycon / Ruka / 2878 9318 2270
NY / Schattenjagger / Snow / 4124 4724 9604
CA / armubaba / armubaba / 2921-8769-3332
CA / CB3 / CB3 / 4296-2640-8647
Japan / RevenantKioku / コジ / 4468-0176-8031
MN / Zozz / Zozz / 3523-1698-1389
CA / layzie1989 / Jeff / 3394-3216-1907
NY / mattso / matt / 2320-5774-2404
CA / ArtanisIX / Art / 5155-2585-9047
AL / Toy Soldier / Knick / 2363-5295-6146
CA / kIdMuScLe / kid / 3652-0212-0209
OH / Dragmire / Dragm / 4167-4169-5187
MA / Dechaios / Kyo / 0001-3003-9593
CA / Muttyeah416 / Mutty 3652-0205-6637
Finland / Osaka / Eikka / 1633-3828-9095
TX and NY / MGrant / Laser / 4253-3123-7297
CA / TwinIonEngines / TIE / 4038-5716-2094
GA / zaxor0 / Zack / 2320-5813-7527
NY / Tom_Cody / TCODY / 1934-0387-4220
CA / SuperAngelo64 / AngLo / 3823-8179-9205
CA / Cyan / SEAN / 2277-6362-2848
TX / Dr.Hadji / Bros / 5327-0569-9068
Sweden / HotByCold / AdCOW / 4253-2994-7780
KY / Bloodwake / Nick / 4038-5731-5495
QC / projectkuro / Kuro / 2535-3344-8474
TN / Enk / Enk/ 1375-6901-4050
Italy / teasel / magus / willaddlater
ON / Einherjar / Ben / 5455-9132-1203
NY / Biggkidd32 / BGKD / 3480-2179-4111
ON / jibblypop / billy / 0259-0020-1632
NY / viewtiful_dru / dori. / 1075-0395-5751
LA / usea / usea / 0731-4473-3005
BC / bran / bran / 1590-4434-0005
VA / Vlad / Vlad /1160-9450-9827
AR / Keru_Shiri / Keru / 0216-0442-5509
NY / LouieGeetoo / John / 3480-2247-8919
NY / Gekkonidae / Paulo / 1332-7446-7650
BC / Dreavus / Drvs / 3952-6676-7586
TX / dfyb / JTown / 4596-9122-3939
ON / Ryuu / Ryuu / 4854-61280-4405
CA / yeb / yeb / 4081-5248-1418
CO / Gamer @ Heart/ G@H/ 2320-5868-0302
Netherlands / shaft / shaft / 5241-1669-6695
AZ / OgnodoD /Jon/4983-4691-1428
CA / Fuzzery / Buddy / 0946-1917-7613
BC / Mugwhump / Mug / 4511-0242-5017
FL / Kinosen / Kino / 2148-7824-6520
NY / Crimmy / MPIRE / 0087 1980 7768
TX / Radiuhm / ebuk4 / 5412-9687-4606
DC / WalkMan / Loc / 2578 2855 1155
FL / SS4Gogita / SS4 / 3952-6664-8021
NJ / bigmakstudios / lolwt / 0001-2986-2366
Europe / SantaC / Santa / 0688-5019-0748
CA / Malfunky / Mal / 0044-2470-7696

Subs (9)
Europe / CassSept / Cass / 4253-3297-0554
AK / rhfb / CJR / 2406-4810-4596
NY / Mike T /cumt / 1547-4970-7165
BC / Michan / NoU / 0387-8477-0052
OR / Kwokuen / ! / 4940-5096-6077
CA / Weepy / weegi / 2750 0821 7749
NY / Beezy / J.B / 2062-8833-7284
GA / Shanks / Shane / 2320-5813-7527
CA / dragonlife29 / DRAGN / 1590 4362 4360

Sign up: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253955

 

[Killa Sasa]

Manitoba/Killa Sasa / BADD / 2191-7323-1308

 

[OliveJuice]

ON, Canada/OliveJuice/Nin/1934-0346-5121

Your supposed to post here?...

 

[Firestorm]

Posting sign ups in the other thread is better. And remember to use the correct abbreviation. I don't even know all the States, let alone the abbreviations :lol I'm probably just going to paste it in Excel and order by alphabet, which is why I asked for that particular format.

 

[Teknoman]

Registered and ready to go.

 

[Fuzzery]

Woops wrong thread

 

[Relix]

I wanna sign up. Do I do it here? If so...

Puerto Rico/Relix/Relix/4253 3141 3743

 

[truendo]

Sign me up!

truendo / TRNDO/ 5155 2598 7295

 

[Milabrega]

So the Neutral stages, are you listing a bunch and we can pick or will all first round matches be played on the same stage?

 

[Nabster92]

Do we sign up here? or the other thread? I'm guessing here so...

San Diego/Los Angeles(1st week of tourney), CA/ Nabster92/NABIL/2148-7776-5580

 

[Haly]

NY / Halycon / Ruka / 2878 9318 2270

 

[Schattenjäger]

I am in..


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NY / Schattenjagger / Snow / 4124 4724 9604

 

[armubaba]

Count me in!

California/armubaba/armubaba/2921-8769-3332

 

[CB3]

im in

California/CB3/CB3/4296-2640-8647

 

[Firestorm]

So the Neutral stages, are you listing a bunch and we can pick or will all first round matches be played on the same stage?

I'm just gonna assign them per round I think. It'd get too complicated otherwise and people could too easily cheat. Although I do expect better from GAF. So like, first round everyone will use something like Smashville as the first stage, second round everyone uses Final Destination, third round everyone uses Castle Siege, etc.

 

[Firestorm]

Sign up in the SIGN UP thread. I'll add you guys anyway.

 

[Teknoman]

Also people dont put too much stock into location of opponent. Though it may minimize lag, you can still have lagless battles with someone quite a distance from your own state. So dont freak out if you get paired with someone like that :lol

 

[Osaka]

I wanted to sign up, but seems that there's only 1 guy apart from me from Europe so I guess I'd end up just lagging you guys up. :lol

 

[Firestorm]

I wanted to sign up, but seems that there's only 1 guy apart from me from Europe so I guess I'd end up just lagging you guys up. :lol

Distance doesn't seem to be the big deciding point for lag. Join up anyway.

 

[Osaka]

Distance doesn't seem to be the big deciding point for lag. Join up anyway.

Well, with west coast people at least, the lag was pretty unbearable. Oh well, let's try.

 

[superbank]

Change my brawl name to RAD. In my friend roster it says my name is BANK but when I select my custom button layout and start a match it says RAD.

 

[masterkajo]

My copy of Brawl and freeloader on the way and I will sign up as soon as I get my code. I do have one question though: What happens if a connection should fail during a match? I ask this because I once participated in a Smash Football tournament and when I was ahead 4:0 the connection got lost. We played again and I lost... (never knew if he disconnection on purpose).

 

[LouieGeetoo]

Count me in.

NY / LouieGeetoo / John / 3480-2247-8919

EDIT: I could've sworn I posted this in the sign-up thread earlier today. I must be going batty from too much brawling.

 

[Gekkonidae]

I didn't have my code in the signup thread, so I'm posting it here. Please add me.

NY/Gekkonidae/Paulo/1332-7446-7650

 

[Haly]

Couldn't we just make an IRC channel for communication?

 

[Firestorm]

IRC probably won't work as this will be a multi-day tournament, not all at once. I dunno how many people would use it either. PMing your opponent with your AIM or MSN might be best.

The tournament will be for 128 people. All people registering afterwards will be put in as a substitute in case people don't show up in the first round or get banned or something.

Poll
Should we give up the stage selection process and use something else? This is due to the process being complicated online as opposed to offline.

Potential replacements:
PM the stage you wish to use when contacting your opponent before the match. Both players must choose the stage the loser picked beforehand. Problem here is that it hardly promotes strategy as you wouldn't know what character your opponent is using or anything.

Just pick and random between the two people every match. Absolutely no strategy or thinking involved.

 

[OliveJuice]

IRC probably won't work as this will be a multi-day tournament, not all at once. I dunno how many people would use it either. PMing your opponent with your AIM or MSN might be best.

The tournament will be for 128 people. All people registering afterwards will be put in as a substitute in case people don't show up in the first round or get banned or something.

Poll
Should we give up the stage selection process and use something else? This is due to the process being complicated online as opposed to offline.

Potential replacements:
PM the stage you wish to use when contacting your opponent before the match. Both players must choose the stage the loser picked beforehand. Problem here is that it hardly promotes strategy as you wouldn't know what character your opponent is using or anything.

Just pick and random between the two people every match. Absolutely no strategy or thinking involved.

Leave it as it is. It's not too complicated. We'll manage to inform the other person about the stage.

 

[WARCOCK]

id play but im too nub.

 

[KevinCow]

How much strategy can there be in stage selection at this point? I suppose characters with poor vertical KO ability wouldn't do well in Shadow Moses, and characters with poor jumping ability wouldn't do well in Rumble Falls, but that's about it.

I'm fine however we wind up doing it. Just saying.

 

[Firestorm]

It's not that complicated, but I'm not sure how well it'd work to have people need to communicate using their PCs between matches. I'm right beside my computer when I play, but I know many might not be.

 

[superbank]

We could decide on 3 stages beforehand. Since the game has its own time limit it could start the game before 2 players decide on a stage through PMs which would be annoying.

Or just pick whatever you want.

 

[Firestorm]

We could decide on 3 stages beforehand. Since the game has its own time limit it could start the game before 2 players decide on a stage through PMs which would be annoying.

Or just pick whatever you want.

Oh crap. I forgot about that too. And coming in and out of making rooms would be annoying too. You know what, I really do think I'm going to go with the PM beforehand idea. I'd rather not have one person getting the stage they want every round.

 

[Relix]

For the sake of it, we can use AIM or MSN;
my AIM being Relix 3000. I barely use it, but if needed I will. My MSN... well PM me if you want it . This makes for communications easier.

 

[Firestorm]

Crispy4001 (mod at 1up) wants to have a friendly winner vs winner between this and their SSBB tournaments =) I hope whoever wins is interested, although they won't have their tournament until the Summer so it might be the Singles Tournament #2 if there is one.

 

[Bloodwake]

Since I've been waiting to play Smash desperately (due to Nintendo's beyond shitty matchmaking) I'm glad I've got the chance to via this tournament.

 

[Firestorm]

I'm a little overwhelmed by the amount of people interested >_>; I hope everything goes smoothly.

And because there's 128 people, I will not be PMing everybody with reminders. I can only send 1 PM at a time and have to wait 1 minute between each. It would take me two hours. Pokemon with less than half the amount of participants was annoying enough =(

Also, I think I'm leaning towards letting go of the current counterpick system. I don't want to inconvenience people like that so I think I might just go with the "Tell the opponent what stage you want before you start" thing.

 

[Fuzzery]

Why not just use blind picks?

 

[truendo]

It's not that complicated, but I'm not sure how well it'd work to have people need to communicate using their PCs between matches. I'm right beside my computer when I play, but I know many might not be.

I'm not.... My wii's in a different room than my computer

 

[Milabrega]

Also, I think I'm leaning towards letting go of the current counterpick system. I don't want to inconvenience people like that so I think I might just go with the "Tell the opponent what stage you want before you start" thing.

Why not just make it 3 specific stages? Smashville --> Battlefield --> FD or such?

 

[RoboPlato]

I'm going to have to back my entry out of this one. I just had to send my Wii in for repair and it's not going to be back in time.

 

[Jiggy]

I'm going to have to back my entry out of this one. I just had to send my Wii in for repair and it's not going to be back in time.

Considering how quickly I got my Wii back when I sent it in, I wouldn't be so sure of that last part of your post. >_>

 

[SantaC]

edit oops wrong thread

 

[Firestorm]

I'm going to have to back my entry out of this one. I just had to send my Wii in for repair and it's not going to be back in time.

Get back to me on Friday or Saturday. I've heard good turn-around times on Wiis so you might get it back if you send it on Monday.

 

[RoboPlato]

Get back to me on Friday or Saturday. I've heard good turn-around times on Wiis so you might get it back if you send it on Monday.

Hopefully, I'll let you know.

 

[OliveJuice]

Crispy4001 (mod at 1up) wants to have a friendly winner vs winner between this and their SSBB tournaments =) I hope whoever wins is interested, although they won't have their tournament until the Summer so it might be the Singles Tournament #2 if there is one.

Don't worry, I'll play with them.

Spoiler

Let the trash talking begin

 

[HotByCold]

Don't worry, I'll play with them.

Spoiler

Let the trash talking begin

I'm going to play with a random character every match, and I'll still end up in the top 20.

 

[OliveJuice]

I'm going to play with a random character every match, and I'll still end up in the top 20.

Because you'll lose to me in that round.

Spoiler

Watch me lose in the first round

 

[Fuzzery]

Crispy4001 (mod at 1up) wants to have a friendly winner vs winner between this and their SSBB tournaments =) I hope whoever wins is interested, although they won't have their tournament until the Summer so it might be the Singles Tournament #2 if there is one.

Shit just got real. WHOEVER WINS BETTER WIN THAT MATCH

 

[Firestorm]

We have maxed out on entrants. Everyone who signs up after this will be subs.

Set Flow rules have changed to the following:

Set Flow
In your initial PM, please give your opponent the stage you would like to use if you lose the first or second matches. That stage should be picked by both users.

Match 1: Stage picked by Firestorm.
Match 2: Stage picked by loser of Match 1.
Match 3 (if required): Stage picked by loser of Match 2.

You will not know what character the opponent has picked.

 

[Haly]

Alright! Any estimate on when we can expect to start?