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New Data Shows Steam is Now Over 50% Larger than PlayStation

How so?
Do you think publishers sell keys to Eneba to sell the games at great discount vs the official prices?

You are so candid, Adam

You might as well throw in that anytime anyone uses VPN to access content not in their region or get regional discounts, they're also doing piracy at that rate. 🤭
 
Catch me in the right light, you'll see my shapes shaped to please.
And if I shake my trousers down, I'm hung just above the knees.

You may have difficulty catchin' breath, when you hear my weighty name.
I'm the one they told, told you so, and they calls me
Gabe Newell

The rumors about Gabe and Kojima building an Outer Heaven tanker city in international waters ala MGS V are actually true. Your Steam rating will determine your job what amenities you get in your pod.
 
You think people's "downloading habits" vary between regions?
Like, people in China download only half of each game compared to Europeans who download every game five times for shits and giggles?

Can you elaborate?
People in different regions will buy different games (with different file sizes) and a different number of games on average.

If the average user in Europe downloaded 250gb a month from steam that doesn't mean the average user in Asia does the same.
 
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Shouldn't the gap be even larger in PCs favor? This is all PCs with steam installed vs all PlayStations right?

I don't understand the comparison. Installing an app is a lower bar than buying an entire device with one store on it.
Its monthly active users, as in someone who signs into Steam, buys or plays a game, etc, in that month.
Valve years ago said there were 1bil PC's with Steam installed, and i have seen 2bil mentioned elsewhere.
 
Valve talking about Playstation:

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Steam machine could have been my alternative go to gaming, but sadly it so expensive and a joke specs that is very low compared to Ps5 especialy Ps5 pro.
 
Its monthly active users, as in someone who signs into Steam, buys or plays a game, etc, in that month.
Valve years ago said there were 1bil PC's with Steam installed, and i have seen 2bil mentioned elsewhere.
Right so out of billions of possible devices, its only 70 million more MAUs than 200 million PlayStations tops? (granted its not even an official steam number)

That's why the comparison confuses me. Shouldn't the steam number be way higher?
 
Right so out of billions of possible devices, its only 70 million more MAUs than 200 million PlayStations tops? (granted its not even an official steam number)

That's why the comparison confuses me. Shouldn't the steam number be way higher?
I mean there are like 8 other PC launchers, one with the biggest game in the world player wise with Fortnite.

A rough estimate that is often used when adding up all launchers together is around 200mil active PC gamers, which is obviously a lowball number if this thread is accurate.

The 1bil and 2bil numbers obviously include people who simply downloaded and started Steam at some point, but may not be avid gamers.
 
Microsoft, take note... fuckers were worried about Sony taking over the living room and in turn competing with the PC, all the while allowing Valve to build a castle in their own backyard.
 
lol if you skip the fact that %70 of that mau are on broken laptops, playing banana
they are basically mobile players on a desk
 
Have you noticed with Valve how quiet they are. I mean barely ever any controversy. Whenever anyone says anything bad towards Steam (EPIC for example), or another publisher tries to do stuff to counter Steams dominance (EPIC again, free games, lower percentage fee, etc), Valve just never respond, and simply continue to grow. You barely ever hear a peep out of them, and they just continue to do there thing, there way.

No wonder Gabe always looks so happy.

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Have you noticed with Valve how quiet they are. I mean barely ever any controversy. Whenever anyone says anything bad towards Steam (EPIC for example), or another publisher tries to do stuff to counter Steams dominance (EPIC again, free games, lower percentage fee, etc), Valve just never respond, and simply continue to grow. You barely ever hear a peep out of them, and they just continue to do there thing, there way.

No wonder Gabe always looks so happy.

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lol barely any controversy? they just released a $2K ps4pro2 to fleece morons
 
I hope we one day return to a point where some AAA games can be made for PC, without being crippled by having to accommodate inferior platforms.
We're passed this nonsense now as games are extremely scalable and diminishing returns apply.

What draws most people to PC is innovation, every gaming trend of the past 10 years has started on PC.
 
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The one that sold out already (i believe). The one that has story after story saying how bad Valve is to release this.....oh wait.
yeah im sure anything sells out if you produce 100 of them lol, pretty easy to find that many morons.
do you have any actual figures by any change?.. oh wait.
 
The old idea that PC is the "secondary" platform looks increasingly outdated. Steam is not just a storefront. It is a massive gaming platform with its own hardware push, its own ecosystem, its own audience habits, and a user base that may now be bigger than entire console networks.

PC is always going to be the secondary market while the majority of major releases are built primarily with console specs and feature sets in mind.
 
yeah im sure anything sells out if you produce 100 of them lol, pretty easy to find that many morons.
do you have any actual figures by any change?.. oh wait.
Why are you so salty?, has the ACTUAL controversy by Sony made you like this?.

And no obviously i dont have sales numbers, but the web is full of people who tried to get one and couldnt. Including my favourite benchmarker.
 
PC is always going to be the secondary market while the majority of major releases are built primarily with console specs and feature sets in mind.
I mean it has to be that way because of game budgets. But to be honest i dont mind that at all as graphics have been peaking for a while, and making games for lower end consoles means a decent solid PC is probably going to bring you better results, and last the whole gen if wanted.
 
I mean, my very own PS4 Pro did almost nothing but play Youtube videos for the three years or so I owned it (before it died in a thunderstorm).
I briefly played a handful of exclusives on it from time to time, half of which I ended up rebuying on PC as soon as Sony ported them.

If you think that media consumption (netflix, prime video, youtube, etc) through a console is a rare phenomenon I don't know what to tell you.

It may have been that way back when ps4 was peak but nowadays with smart TVs being everywhere it made less sense to run a console just to watch streaming videos.

On top of that, TV have plenty of alternative streaming apps that already surpass the numbers that's available on consoles.
 
PC is always going to be the secondary market while the majority of major releases are built primarily with console specs and feature sets in mind.
The thing about this is games run well on PCs weaker than consoles, so it's not even like consoles are the base. The PS5 does tend to be the lead platform which means it gets the most attention when it comes to optimization but PC games are in a pretty respectable state after improvements to shader compilation and CPU optimizations.
 
I actually thought it could be more. A onboard PC nowadays can run even mid gen PS4 games...

Well, good chance that next gen will be the first real downsize of sales for Playstation consoles while PC will grow
 
I am just glad Steam finally got Japanese devs on board. This feels like yesterday.

 
Good. "Greatness Awaits" was Sony back on top. Now they've let nothing but industry trends and GaaS fuel their lust of money. Not the same thing. I'm glad to see Valve ahead of them.
 
Steam is just too good of a platform. It has everything you need and want. Playstation has nothing to offer in return, except high prices, paid online and worthless customer service. The platforms only saving grace was physical discs but Sony killed it, so no reason to stick with PS over Steam now.
 
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Well in this case use my older (2020) Ryzen 7 4700U laptop with 32gb ddr4 cl20 3200 + Vega 7 and then just use my backup i9 10900 to swap in for my 11900k? Hell if I'm that desperate I can fire my 4790k system up again, it's still more capable than people realize.

But to your point, a new pc build around $1,000 is still more than enough to play every game and if we want to get more.. the used market still exists.

That 4790k with a garbage bin RTX 2060 and you can still play 70% of those PS5 games in no time.
 
My own circle of family playing video games are all on Steam with at least one have a Switch. I wouldn't be surprise of the number for Steam are much higher.
 
MS needs to release an XBOX Steam machine that is more powerful at a reasonable price. They have the ability to do so with the Strix Halo APU.
until a couple months ago it sounded like they were gonna release a much more powerful one, albeit at a premium price. I can't have been the only guy ready to pay a premium price if it were capable of being a literal high end steam machine that didn't require GP to access 3rd party stores.

But that seems very unlikely without Phil there. I imagine Asha asked those who didn't leave with Phil how MS benefits from making a premium steam machine. and I imagine everyone looked at her and went beep boop blip and malfunctioned while trying to explain a plausible answer.
 
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I hope we one day return to a point where some AAA games can be made for PC, without being crippled by having to accommodate inferior platforms.

Funny, I was just playing Crysis Remastered at 4k / RT on my rig and I'm like, wow, this still blows me more away than any game on modern consoles... well over 60fps and I'm only on a RX9070.
 
I'm so butthurt I lost my 2006 account, would have loved that 20 years is service badge instead I'm at 16.

My nephew recently got his Steam account back after it got stolen by someone from Ukraine.

Luckily there was transaction records kept by me since I was always the one helping him purchase games when he was still too young to have bank account. The old records helped to convince Steam support that the account stolen.
 
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