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New ES4:Oblivion Video

Speevy said:
Well, you can't mod anything, but there's no limit to what Bethesda can put on Xbox Live. I mean, saying the console version of what is again the biggest RPG ever is too small is insane.

Bang for your buck. If a PC version is an option, why settle for the buggier, unmodifiable version?
 
Mejilan said:
Bang for your buck. If a PC version is an option, why settle for the buggier, unmodifiable version?

It'll look better, run better, be more stable, and on a personal note I have a 50 inch TV and surround sound and a comfy place to game, why settle for less?
 
Well, you can't mod anything, but there's no limit to what Bethesda can put on Xbox Live. I mean, saying the console version of what is again the biggest RPG ever is too small is insane.

You can settle for less if you like, but not me. If you really like a game, it's pretty cool when it keeps growing. I'm not saying it's too small, I'm saying it can NEVER get too big.

Also i remember alot of wishful thinking that bethsheda was going to allow some modding for xbox morrowind, never happened. The best extra content was created by the fans, and i don't you'll ever see fan-made mods on Live for any game. Bethsheda will probably put expansion packs on Live but that's about it i think.
 
SnakeXs said:
It'll look better, run better, be more stable, and on a personal note I have a 50 inch TV and surround sound and a comfy place to game, why settle for less?


1. it won't run the mods better


2. plug your pc into your tv.

3. morrowind xbox sure as hell wasn't more stable.
 
SnakeXs said:
It'll look better, run better, be more stable, and on a personal note I have a 50 inch TV and surround sound and a comfy place to game, why settle for less?

You're on crack. You're misguided on all counts.
 
LAMBO said:
1. it won't run the mods better


2. plug your pc into your tv.

3. morrowind xbox sure as hell wasn't more stable.

1) Doesn't bother me. I've been there done thatw ith mods. They're tiny extras for me, and barely get a hint of my attention. With a massive game like this, a few extra items, and WOW COOL things doesn't add much.

2) K, but I still won't have my sound or be nearly as comfortable as I would be, plus I prefer a controller, which is part of the comfort. Not to mention the huge hastle.

3) Frame rate wise, it sure was. Back then many a friends had a great rig and the Xbox version, while not looking as good, was way more steady. Now that the 360 version looks BETTER, what's to make me think anything's changed?
 
LAMBO said:
You can settle for less if you like, but not me. If you really like a game, it's pretty cool when it keeps growing. I'm not saying it's too small, I'm saying it can NEVER get too big.

Also i remember alot of wishful thinking that bethsheda was going to allow some modding for xbox morrowind, never happened. The best extra content was created by the fans, and i don't you'll ever see fan-made mods on Live for any game. Bethsheda will probably put expansion packs on Live but that's about it i think.

There won't be any worthwhile mods for a very long time. By then, the graphic cards necessary to run this game at a level and quality equal to the x360 version will be a lot cheaper (right now, they are close to the price of the x360 itself). So then and only then will the PC version really be worth it.
 
SnakeXs said:
3) Frame rate wise, it sure was. Back then many a friends had a great rig and the Xbox version, while not looking as good, was way more steady. Now that the 360 version looks BETTER, what's to make me think anything's changed?

Not to mention that this time the two versions (PC and x360) are being built around their unique systems. This wasn't the case so much with Morrowind.
 
Mejilan said:
You're on crack. You're misguided on all counts.
Well we don't really know that.

In any case if you were to purchase only one version the PC one should be it. Game enhancements are always the better choice and if Morrowind is any indication there will be some absolutely stellar user-made modifications and probably a few game patches. However I’m still hoping that the 360 port ends up being the “best case scenario” in terms of graphics and stability. It would be quite nice to kick back and relax with on the couch after a long day of work on the PC. I'm grabbing both versions though so I'm set.
 
Game looks really great. Love the bloom/HDR and the landscapes look very nice and make me want to explore them. People look good enough considering the scope of the game. Battle system looks ok. Hopefully it'll be more fun when you're playing.

Oh and pleaseee delay it until the game holds 30fps stable with no screen tearing.
 
SnakeXs said:
1) Doesn't bother me. I've been there done thatw ith mods. They're tiny extras for me, and barely get a hint of my attention. With a massive game like this, a few extra items, and WOW COOL things doesn't add much.

2) K, but I still won't have my sound or be nearly as comfortable as I would be, plus I prefer a controller, which is part of the comfort. Not to mention the huge hastle.

3) Frame rate wise, it sure was. Back then many a friends had a great rig and the Xbox version, while not looking as good, was way more steady. Now that the 360 version looks BETTER, what's to make me think anything's changed?

1. Your huge loss(and millions of others, i never had the delusion that mods are made for the masses), I just wanted to let people that they exist, and how great they are. You say the game is big enough, but bethsheda is going to Release offical expansions, so me and the devs disagree with you.

2. I thought the xbox pad was Pc compatable? And you could plug your sound into your 5.1 stereo right(i really don't know, i have 2 big loudspeakers)?

3. The damn game crashed, deleted your saves, lost your items. But if the framrate is what you're defination of stable is then yes, you needed a good pc for the xbox version's framerate.
 
I can't play Oblivion for PC, I have a laptop and don't plan on building a "gaming" computer. I gave that hobby up a year ago and have switched to consoles exclusively for gaming.
However, I played Morrowind on the Xbox AND on the PC when it released. It was a great experience on both and I'm sure Oblivion will be as well. The console version will be even closer to the PC version this time around too, with the higher resolutions and everything. :)
 
LAMBO said:
bethsheda is going to Release offical expansions, so me and the devs disagree with you.
Well Bethesda already expressed a desire to offer expansions through Xbox Live. I sincerely doubt they'll ignore their 360 fanbase, at worst probably one or two releases.
 
LAMBO said:
1. Your huge loss(and millions of others, i never had the delusion that mods are made for the masses), I just wanted to let people that they exist, and how great they are. You say the game to big enough, but

2. I thought the xbox pad was Pc compatable? And you could plug your sound into your 5.1 stereo right(i really don't know, i have 2 big loudspeakers)?

3. The damn game crashed, deleted your saves, lost your items. But if the framrate is what you're defination of stable is then yes, you needed a good pc for the xbox version's framerate.

1)Trust me, I've done plenty of modding (playing them, that is) for plenty of games. TCs or expansion-y ones are cool, but are usually "cheap", and the fun doesn't last long, and gimmicky ones and extra weapons/spells either break the fun, or are cool for a few minutes and then get old. Does it add something to the game, yeah, and I'm sure others (like yourself) value them much more than I, but I've just never found them to be a huge draw.

2) It is, but menu hopping and s uch when it's not built around it is FAR from ideal. And, a sound card with digital 5.1 out would be another cost to burden myself with, and that's ASSUMING the game supports real DD, which most don't.

3) The PC had it's share of bugs, too. Bethesda's track record isn't exactly stellar. But, all one can hope is that they've learned, and used the extra time to fix such things. And, again, as FallenOne666 said, the XB version was a port, quick n' easy, not the case now.
 
And, has been said, I'm sure if Bethesda's so excited over XB Live and delivering contest, it wouldn't be beyond them or MS to release patches for any serious game flaws SHOULD they arise.
 
FallenOne666 said:
There won't be any worthwhile mods for a very long time. By then, the graphic cards necessary to run this game at a level and quality equal to the x360 version will be a lot cheaper (right now, they are close to the price of the x360 itself). So then and only then will the PC version really be worth it.

Yes, it will be worth it.
 
SnakeXs said:
And, has been said, I'm sure if Bethesda's so excited over XB Live and delivering contest, it wouldn't be beyond them or MS to release patches for any serious game flaws SHOULD they arise.


I agree, but i'd still would wait a while before buying it. Sometimes patches render your save files made under the previous version useless, i'd hate to lose a month of playtime to a patch.
 
It's amazing how much better the faces look in that Morrowind mod posted above that changed the characters. Plus it uses less polygons at that!
 
Whatever happened to intriguing stories, unforgettable characters, emersive gameplay etc.? It's like no one cares anymore :lol

Graphics whores are ruining gaming..
 
Gantz said:
Whatever happened to intriguing stories, unforgettable characters, emersive gameplay etc.? It's like no one cares anymore :lol

Graphics whores are ruining gaming..

Yeah, we could tell all that from a series of PC clips that was in German.
 
If I had a computer that was able to run this game on max detail then I'd be all over the PC version. However since my 9600Ati Radeon mobile won't upgrade itself to whatever the hell is top of the line these days the xbox 360 version will have to do.
 
SnakeXs said:
Yeah, we could tell all that from a series of PC clips that was in German.

A pah pah'd

0.o And here i was worried that my video card cant handle it. XD

Yeah, I don't think many will have a problem running it at lower settings and such. I mean the new video certainly doesn't look as breahtaking as the E3 demo, which was probably running with more settings on, but it still looks pretty good.
 
Gantz said:
Whatever happened to intriguing stories, unforgettable characters, emersive gameplay etc.? It's like no one cares anymore :lol

Graphics whores are ruining gaming..
call me when they invent these newfound methods of media where they can incorporate every aspect of your list for ones full pleisure. oh, what's that? it's called playing the game is it?
twat.
 
EternalDarko said:
call me when they invent these newfound methods of media where they can incorporate every aspect of your list for ones full pleisure. oh, what's that? it's called playing the game is it?
twat.

They could if they didn't spend all their money on the beautiful environments and poorly designed character models.
 
SnakeXs said:
It'll look better, run better, be more stable, and on a personal note I have a 50 inch TV and surround sound and a comfy place to game, why settle for less?

Too bad you can do all that better on a pc. :D
 
Stop arguing, this is getting stupid.

Oblivion 360 looks great. It's not the best looking game on the market but its a hell of a lot better looking than Morrowind on Xbox.

Oblivion on PC will be better if you have the money to buy a card that runs it better. It will also be better in gameplay because of the mods.

That's it. That's fact. Nothing to argue over. A top-notch PC will run it better than the 30fps or less X360 and have more replay value. But for most people (like me) who don't care to spend money upgrading their PC, the X360 will provide good enough graphics and plenty of length.

Now can we get back to normal?
 
SnakeXs said:
You didn't even read it all...

Go take your PC Pseudo-elitism elsewhere, Deg.

I did. Your argument is in the gutter.

If you dont want second best then you go for the pc version. Simple.
 
Deg said:
I did. Your argument is perfectly valid.

If you want to spend a ton of money for a PC game, and don't have an existing home theater or 360, then you go for the pc version. Simple.

Sorry, I had to, but it's fixed now.
 
LAMBO said:
3. The damn game crashed, deleted your saves, lost your items.
That, along with the insane Morrowind-style modding that's sure to come, is why the PC version of Oblivion is the only one I'm considering. Release day can't come soon enough. :)
 
There's always 2 camps with these pc/console games. Pc gamers liking all the extra gameplay, options, content aka what makes gaming great, and the "dude but i can't use my big screen and couch" guys. Your big screen and couch are PC compatable.

Sadly for many the argument isn't 360 oblivion vs pc oblivion based on what we got with morrowind, it's pc vs console based on love of consoles and hate of PC gaming and vice versa.
 
Bebpo said:
Btw, what's the latest release date for the X360 one? Is it still looking likely for March?

So we hope, or else FallenOne commits seppuku.
 
SnakeXs said:
Sorry, I had to, but it's fixed now.

Fixed what? You only make yourself look more silly because of your little insecurity. Also notice i do say best possible which is ofcourse pc.

it's pc vs console based on love of consoles and hate of PC gaming and vice versa.

True. There is nothing wrong with getting the console version, i have done it myself on occasion. But dont try to say console gaming > pc gaming for a game like this on a place like GAF or you will get chewed up.
 
Deg said:
Fixed what? You only make yourself look more silly because of your little insecurity.



True. There is nothing wrong with getting the console version, i have done it myself on occasion. But dont try to say console gaming > pc gaming for a game like this on a place like GAF or you will get chewed up.

Tell me where I posted anything false and then talk.

And, I never said anything's wrong with the PC verion, either. You're the one saying if you want second, slick. I've said why the PC version isn't for me/doesn't appeal to me. I didn't say anyone else was wrong for going that route. So, \yeah, take y our generalizations elsewhere.
 
SnakeXs said:
Tell me where I posted anything false and then talk.


"1)If you want to spend a ton of money for a PC game"

Pc games are less than half the price of 360 games (UK). Although my point strictly is the 'best possible experience'.

"2), and don't have an existing home theater or 360, then you go for the pc version. Simple."

Audio is much superior in pc games. Surround sound is also superior with many more options than console gaming. 7.1 sound is a common feature. Some games like Civilization IV include 8.1 support. Not to mention superior handling, positioning and mixing.

And, I never said anything's wrong with the PC verion, either. You're the one saying if you want second, slick. I've said why the PC version isn't for me/doesn't appeal to me. I didn't say anyone else was wrong for going that route. So, \yeah, take y our generalizations elsewhere.

lets see here, the original quote i responded to:

It'll look better, run better, be more stable, and on a personal note I have a 50 inch TV and surround sound and a comfy place to game, why settle for less?
 
Deg said:
"1)If you want to spend a ton of money for a PC game"

Pc games are less than half the price of 360 games (UK). Although my point strictly is the 'best possible experience'.

"2), and don't have an existing home theater or 360, then you go for the pc version. Simple."

Audio is much superior in pc games. Surround sound is also superior with many more options than console gaming. 7.1 sound is a common feature. Some games like Civilization IV include 8.1 support.



lets see here:

Money for a PC to play it well is obviously not factored in to your tally.

Did I say anything was superior? I said if you don't have a home theater. You're picking and choosing. All I said is I have a home theater, which consists of a beefy 5.1 system, and a 50 inch wide screen HDTV. I have and want neither for my PC, for many reasons.

Care to try again? Or do you just wanna end this, enjoy your version, get of your high horse and let others enjoy theirs?
 
Unless you're just hardcore about the PC exclusive stuff, someone should be able to say "Go to that obscure mountain pass where the vampires, werewolves, and minotaurs are then purchase a cursed scepter from the barbarian merchant.", and players of both versions will know generally what you're talking about.

Ultimately, that's why TES is so immersive. Each player finds the path to a quest in their own way, through their own intuition and bad luck.

You will encounter dozens of situations in which you just can't find the 18-letter cave you were just sent to, so you'll enter the nearest one thinking "That has to be it." Unfortunately, you're more likely to enter a cursed demise this way.

Although, I've read difficulty scales to your level, which I don't like. People should learn what they can and cannot fight while adventuring.
 
Really the diffculty works like that? That kinda sucks, hopefully it's an option, or someone mods an option.
 
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