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http://www.jeux-france.com/news12568_interview-satoru-iwata.html

In an interview granted to G4TV, Satoru Iwata, President de Nintendo, confirms that the play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will unload indeed on GameCube the next year.

Satoru Iwata (Nintendo): 'I am really sorry but we could not hold our promise to leave new Legend of Zelda before the end of the year. However, we had another promise, that to leave The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess on GameCube. Some say that it would be advantageous to leave The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess on Nintendo Revolution, but we made a promise with the owners of GameCube and we do not want to disappoint them. '

Concerning Nintendo Revolution, Satoru Iwata seems in its very impatient turn to discover first Zelda benefitting from the PAD of the future console.

Satoru Iwata (Nintendo): 'I wait impatiently to see how Zelda could be played with the lever of Nintendo Revolution. I currently push Mr. Miyamoto to be introduced to us what can be made with The Legend of Zelda'.

It should be noted that at the time of this interview, Satoru Iwata finally confirmed that Nintendo Revolution would be less powerful technically than Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

Satoru Iwata (Nintendo): 'If you want only to compare the design features of each console, Nintendo Revolution will probably not have the best capacities compared to PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, if the player tries to connect the consoles on their televisions, it will not note large differences between the machines. Our goal is to attract the occasional players and especially the people who do not play or which is not interested by the video games, I do not think that to propose only better graphics would go for this type of anybody, because finally one would not see really the difference.'

After the very great success of Nintendogs on Nintendo DS which attracted many new players to buy the tactile console of Nintendo, the manufacturer seems to have understood that plays of this type, having the characteristic to touch a very large audience, can be the genuine key to success. Nintendo Revolution seems to take the same strategic way.

Of dimensioned sound, Shigeru Miyamoto which went to Nintendo World Store to New York confirmed with MTV that new a opus of Super Bros Smash. Melee was in preparation on Nintendo Revolution.

Shigeru Miyamoto (Nintendo): 'Of course, we are working on a new Super Bros Smash. and we envisage to add to it full with new characters.'

Babelfish but if you need a better translation, I read french so i can clear some stuff up hopefully \

Edit: Here's the video interview -> http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9569

 

[dark10x]

So, basically, the DS has demonstrated that they need not strive for the most powerful technology provided the software is interesting and unique enough to pull in consumers.

Less powerful hardware also means that they could turn a profit on each console sold, rather than taking losses like MS and Sony most likely will be...

 

[koam]

So, basically, the PS2 and DS have demonstrated that they need not strive for the most powerful technology provided the software is interesting and unique enough to pull in consumers.

Less powerful hardware also means that they could turn a profit on each console sold, rather than taking losses like MS and Sony most likely will be...

*fixed*

 

[Drensch]

If you want only to compare the design features of each console, Nintendo Revolution will probably not have the best capacities compared to PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, if the player tries to connect the consoles on their televisions, it will not note large differences between the machines. Our goal is to attract the occasional players and especially the people who do not play or which is not interested by the video games, I do not think that to propose only better graphics would go for this type of anybody, because finally one would not see really the difference.'

That's a different translation. Iwata said the spec sheets may not match. Then again, GCN had the weakest spec sheet.

 

[GDJustin]

I had at least hoped Nintendo would hit X360 levels of power.

 

[koam]

That's a different translation. Iwata said the spec sheets may not match. Then again, GCN had the weakest spec sheet.

I read the french version and it basically says, the Revo will be less powerful but you won't be able to tell when they're plugged into a television. not sure what the G4TV one says.

 

[dark10x]

*fixed*

No, not fixed. The PS2 was not far behind technologically speaking. It was more than capable of matching and, occasionally, exceeding the other machines on the market. To suggest otherwise is foolish and fanboy-ish.

The PS2 does compete with XBOX and Gamecube from a technology standpoint.

DS does not compete with PSP from a technology standpoint, but it clearly does not matter.

I'm not suggesting that Revolution is going to follow the same route as the DS either. I was simply suggesting that Nintendo themselves has experienced success without top end hardware with the DS.

 

[Ultra Magnanimous]

So Revolution will be weaker but still in the same league? Cool.

 

[Scrow]

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will unload indeed on GameCube the next year.

got to love those babelfish translations.

If you want only to compare the design features of each console, Nintendo Revolution will probably not have the best capacities compared to PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360

Nintendo graphics whores am cry.

 

[LegendofJoe]

Nintendo graphics whores am cry.

When you spend as much money on R&D as Nintendo probably did with their controller you have to make cuts somewhere. If you really thought the Revolution would compete spec wise with the competition you are one naive individual.

 

[maximum360]

Each console has some strengths and weaknesses for sure. Some functions can be maximized (to make one console better in one area) but you can't pick one or a few things and make sweeping generalizations about superiority based on that. At the end of the day though, I doubt you'll find any "objective" developer saying that when all is considered that the Xbox and GC were inferior to the PS2. (They were released a year later, what do you expect.)

When you compare the functions of each and then look at the finished product in terms of software, I think you can better gauge which is superior (to the extent that it matters to us). If a console excels in one area but that function is rendered unnecessary or rarely used then it's almost pointless. (Think having a V6 engine but if you go faster than 30 miles an hour you car falls apart. Then there's really no point in having a V6.)

 

[fresquito]

If you want only to compare the design features of each console, Nintendo Revolution will probably not have the best capacities compared to PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, if the player tries to connect the consoles on their televisions, it will not note large differences between the machines. Our goal is to attract the occasional players and especially the people who do not play or which is not interested by the video games, I do not think that to propose only better graphics would go for this type of anybody, because finally one would not see really the difference.'

This is enough for me. Probably no HD support, so, the specs will be lower, but what you see in a regular TV won´t be that different.

 

[imastalker co.]

typical Nintendo. shit, typcail babelfish at that.

people used to think PS2/xbox would push 70 Milllion + polys at one point, while GameCube would only push 12 Million Tops remember?

judge after you see the games.

 

[ge-man]

Sounds like he's talking more about the machine not having the same raw power than the other two. That's doesn't mean that the overall output will be lesser if what he says about making side by side comparison is true. It was/is the same deal with the Gamecube.

 

[littlewig]

So, basically, the DS has demonstrated that they need not strive for the most powerful technology provided the software is interesting and unique enough to pull in consumers.

Less powerful hardware also means that they could turn a profit on each console sold, rather than taking losses like MS and Sony most likely will be...

yea, but the difference between Rev and PS3/Xbox360 won't be as noticable as PSP and DS.

it's will probably be much like GC/Xbox, where GC was technically weaker but there was no noticable difference between the consoles.

 

[NintendosBooger]

I'm getting tired of Nintendo's cheap ass. Why don't they use the fuckin money they're getting from the damn Mario re-re-re-releases and invest all of that cash into the console's specs?????????????

You're telling me the sales numbers of the re-re-re-re-re-re-releases were EXPECTED? That's BONUS money! Put it into the hardware, goddamnit.

 

[Krowley]

No, not fixed. The PS2 was not far behind technologically speaking. It was more than capable of matching and, occasionally, exceeding the other machines on the market. To suggest otherwise is foolish and fanboy-ish.

The PS2 does compete with XBOX and Gamecube from a technology standpoint.

DS does not compete with PSP from a technology standpoint, but it clearly does not matter.

but the question for me is, if it will be more like the ps2 or more like the DS. will there be a generational gap? If you believe what iwata said, it sounds more like it will be in the ps2 catagory, where you will be able to tell very little difference, at least on a conventional TV set.

i personally don't care much myself, because i just love the concept behind the rev controller and i see that as a technological step beyond the 360 and ps3 in it's own way. It seems to be a truly next gen controller and it will probably be the only system with a next gen controller.

I think the key will be pricing. If the price is right it can be everybody's number 2 system. 200 dollars sounds about right to me especially with the 400+ price we will probably find on the ps3 and the current pricing scheme on the 360.

I will buy the rev + one of the other two.

 

[Scrow]

When you spend as much money on R&D as Nintendo probably did with their controller you have to make cuts somewhere. If you really thought the Revolution would compete spec wise with the competition you are one naive individual.

High costs for R&D on the controller or not the Rev was never going to measure up to the PS3 or X360. but who cares?

 

[Hooker]

'If you want only to compare the design features of each console, Nintendo Revolution will probably not have the best capacities compared to PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, if the player tries to connect the consoles on their televisions, it will not note large differences between the machines. Our goal is to attract the occasional players and especially the people who do not play or which is not interested by the video games, I do not think that to propose only better graphics would go for this type of anybody, because finally one would not see really the difference.'

What about the hardcore Nintendo fans who DO want nice graphics (me). Alienating your fanbase maybe?!


I'm not buying a next-gen console when everything like graphics/sound/physics is still stuck in the current gen. The controller is a great step forward, but this translation of the interview is 2 steps back again...

Ah, who am I kidding, I'll buy it regardless - Just paired with a PS3 from the get-go I reckon

 

[ge-man]

I'm getting tired of Nintendo's cheap ass. Why don't they use the fuckin money they're getting from the damn Mario re-re-re-releases and invest all of that cash into the console's specs?????????????

Perhaps because they run a tight, profit driven business? It's cool that Sony can cram all types of goodies into the PS3--that doesn't mean that it is the best way to make a new console.

 

[dark10x]

it's will probably be much like GC/Xbox, where GC was technically weaker but there was no noticable difference between the consoles.

Are you kidding me? The difference between GC and XBOX was incredibly small.

I'd imagine the gap between X360 and PS3 will be wider than GC and XBOX.

 

[Prine]

About the power, i dont know why anyone would be surprised. Consider the size of the console, Nintendo's philosphy, the success of the DS, making it afforable and at the same time profit from each unit sold it was pretty obvious it would not be as powerful as the other 2 systems.

Anyway, good for Nintendo, they are doing their own thing

 

[ge-man]

Are you kidding me? The difference between GC and XBOX was incredibly small.

I think you just repeated what he said.

 

[LegendofJoe]

I'm getting tired of Nintendo's cheap ass. Why don't they use the fuckin money they're getting from the damn Mario re-re-re-releases and invest all of that cash into the console's specs?????????????

I'm guessing you're not very well versed on how to run a successful business, because if you were you'd realise that Nintendo has no other business divisions to help finance their R&D costs. They've already risked a lot with the Revolution's controller, it would be insanity for them to increase the manufacturing cost of the Revolution even more.

 

[koam]

Does anyone expect a huge leap between the three consoles next-gen? This gen, the differences were minimal and Resident Evil 4 confirmed that. I'm expecting an even smaller gap next gen. I also expect the Rev to support 720p dispite what Perrin said.

 

[dark10x]

I think you just repeated what he said.

No, not at all.

Does anyone expect a huge leap between the three consoles next-gen?

I do.

I really do not believe that Revolution will be at the same level. Consider the cost and size of what is being included with XBOX360 and PS3. The Revolution is extremely small, Nintendo was very successful with DS, and their goals seem quite different. Do you really forsee Nintendo coming out with a console on par with those, taking a loss out of the gate and selling it for $300-400?

All evidence suggests that Nintendo is attempting to approach the market in a very different fashion...and Nintendo DS is proof that you do not need to be in the same performance ballpark to succeed (it's an entire generation behind PSP, afterall). I think they are VERY pleased with the performance of DS. It is cheap to manufacture, affordable for consumers, introduces new concepts into gaming, and has been selling extremely well. I don't think they WANT to join the hardware wars.

It's not an insult of any kind, just logic.

 

[NintendosBooger]

I'm guessing you're not very well versed on how to run a successful business.

I must have missed your name in that Forbes 400 richest people list. I'll look again --- you listed under LegendofJoe or just Joe?

 

[LegendofJoe]

I must have missed your name in that Forbes 400 richest people list. I'll look again --- you listed under LegendofJoe or just Joe?

Why refute the point when you can just resort to sarcasm, right?

 

[ge-man]

No, not at all.

I see. I missed the second part of your post.

 

[littlewig]

Are you kidding me? The difference between GC and XBOX was incredibly small.

I'd imagine the gap between X360 and PS3 will be wider than GC and XBOX.

Compare the specs, the GC looks much weaker than the Xbox on sheet, but because of design the graphics displayed by both system are nearly identical.

GC came out the same time as Xbox, yet was able to compete in terms of graphics and retail for a $100 less.

To me that seems impossible, but Nintendo did it.

 

[Ruzbeh]

When you spend as much money on R&D as Nintendo probably did with their controller you have to make cuts somewhere. If you really thought the Revolution would compete spec wise with the competition you are one naive individual.

I'm getting tired of Nintendo's cheap ass. Why don't they use the fuckin money they're getting from the damn Mario re-re-re-releases and invest all of that cash into the console's specs?????????????

Nintendo invested plenty in specs, you just can't have something as powerful as Xbox 360 or PS3 in such a small case. Besides, the console is going to be cheap. That doesn't mean they invested too little, they just invested in something efficient.

Also, don't bother to watch that G4 interview . It's horrible... Good God...

 

[Mihail]

Nintendo invested plenty in specs, you just can't have something as powerful as Xbox 360 or PS3 in such a small case. Besides, the console is going to be cheap. That doesn't mean they invested too little, they just invested in something efficient.

That's a big one for me. At the risk of not being considered a real "gamer," I'd gladly sacrifice the difference between PS3 and Revolution to save 300 bucks.

 

[dark10x]

Compare the specs, the GC looks much weaker than the Xbox on sheet, but because of design the graphics displayed by both system are nearly identical.

GC came out the same time as Xbox, yet was able to compete in terms of graphics and retail for a $100 less.

To me that seems impossible, but Nintendo did it.

I think you are TOTALLY off base there...

The XBOX was as expensive as it was as a result of the components they chose to include. It was created with off the shelf parts and also made use of an expensive component not offered on GC (an HDD).

I do not believe that the Revolution will be equivalent to the GC of this generation. Nintendo is approaching things very differently this round. I think Revolution is going the DS route...

The fact of the matter is, even if Revolution were no more powerful than Gamecube (it will be), the Gamecube is still perfectly capable of delivering impressive, colorful visuals at 480p. We all know that a lot of the early XBOX360 games are not too far removed from what we've seen this generation. If they were to, say, DOUBLE the power of the Gamecube for the Revolution project, they could still deliver visuals that would hold up against the new machines. It's not as if the best looking PS2, XBOX, and GC games don't already still hold up (they do)...

This doesn't seem like a hardware war for Nintendo.

 

[Excelion]

See this is why I hate translations like this. In the G4 TV interview he stated if you hook all three systems to a REGULAR tv you *may* not see a difference. He also reiterated that the hardware would not be as powerful as Xbox 360 and PS3.

While certainly the Rev will be more powerful than current consoles, it will not be anywhere in the same league as PS3 or 360 if you own an HDTV. They are going for the casual market that more than likely won't have an HDTV anyway. I just don't want people to get their hopes up and be disappointed. You should be wanting the Rev for new experiences, not for the best graphics.

 

[ThunderEmperor]

typical Nintendo. shit, typcail babelfish at that.

people used to think PS2/xbox would push 70 Milllion + polys at one point, while GameCube would only push 12 Million Tops remember?

judge after you see the games.

night train or i mean phantomile, anything new on the rev you might want to share.

 

[SantaC]

PS3 will provide me with my graphics whore fix so this doesn't really bother me. Revolution will probably have a Dreamcast - PS2 gap. I am looking forward to play some games differently on Revolution. Hopefully Miyamoto can deliver a new fantastic Mario game again.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

. However, if the player tries to connect the consoles on their televisions, it will not note large differences between the machines. Our goal is to attract the occasional players and especially the people who do not play or which is not interested by the video games, I do not think that to propose only better graphics would go for this type of anybody, because finally one would not see really the difference.'

Good move the avg consumer could give 2 shits about all these uber l33t games with perfect lighting etc etc, they want something fun, a party type game mario kart, mario party, SSB guitar freaks etc (no sports games cause girls usually dont like them). I agree that gaming has gotten way too serious, anxious to see what nintendo conjures up.

 

[Spazbiohaz]

Looking at leaked specs and interviews. I think it will be on par but on a smaller streaming scale. Similar to how Quake 2 for Playstation was vs the PC. The levels will be in tack and the graphics will be closer to the others (unlike PS and PC, tho they were close), but they will be sectioned. So GTA may not work out so well, but level to level games should look almost identical.

The only thing that you need to remember is the play style is different. If Iwata is saying plugging it in the TV will show no difference. He must be talking looks versus spec sheets. An example is a Fishing game. It is One level, a boat, an environment, and Fish. This would look the same on all 3 next gen system because it is basic design, but how you play it is where the Rev shines.

 

[koam]

I must have missed your name in that Forbes 400 richest people list. I'll look again --- you listed under LegendofJoe or just Joe?

I have to agree with the man (not NintendosBooger). Read this and you'll understand why.

 

[ThunderEmperor]

PS3 will provide me with my graphics whore fix so this doesn't really bother me. Revolution will probably have a Dreamcast - PS2 gap. I am looking forward to play some games differently on Revolution. Hopefully Miyamoto can deliver a new fantastic Mario game again.

this boards make me laugh, i read the interview and watched it on g4, this is the usual nintendo spin. the same this every generation and when the final product comes out the graphics are comparable. when nintendo annouced the ds the never compare it to any other system or evey steted graphical ablity

when ever the luch a home console nintneod down plays everything. but yet star wars rogue squdron has the higest polygon count of any game this gen and it was a bleeding luch title.

that is nintnedo for, i just wwant to see the graphics becasue, in all honesty is a game liek jungle beat has better graphics than most ps2 and even xbox games, then nintneod knows what they are doing

 

[dark10x]

this boards make me laugh, i read the interview and watched it on g4, this is the usual nintendo spin. the same this every generation and when the final product comes out the graphics are comparable. when nintendo annouced the ds the never compare it to any other system or evey steted graphical ablity

when ever the luch a home console nintneod down plays everything. but yet star wars rogue squdron has the higest polygon count of any game this gen and it was a bleeding luch title.

that is nintnedo for, i just wwant to see the graphics becasue, in all honesty is a game liek jungle beat has better graphics than most ps2 and even xbox games, then nintneod knows what they are doing

You DO realize that you referenced "Nintendo" by name five times in that post...yet only spelled it correctly twice, right?

 

[Excelion]

this boards make me laugh, i read the interview and watched it on g4, this is the usual nintendo spin. the same this every generation and when the final product comes out the graphics are comparable. when nintendo annouced the ds the never compare it to any other system or evey steted graphical ablity

when ever the luch a home console nintneod down plays everything. but yet star wars rogue squdron has the higest polygon count of any game this gen and it was a bleeding luch title.

that is nintnedo for, i just wwant to see the graphics becasue, in all honesty is a game liek jungle beat has better graphics than most ps2 and even xbox games, then nintneod knows what they are doing

what?

 

[SantaC]

You DO realize that you referenced "Nintendo" by name five times in that post...yet only spelled it correctly twice, right?

:lol

 

[ThunderEmperor]

You DO realize that you referenced "Nintendo" by name five times in that post...yet only spelled it correctly twice, right?

yeah i know, sorry stick keyboard.

 

[koam]

yeah i know, sorry stick keyboard.

You shouldn't have said that... oh boy you shouldn't have said that..

 

[cybamerc]

People can rationalize all that they want but I think it's a given that the Rev will be considerably less powerful than the competition. Whether or not that will translate into significantly worse looking titles remains to be seen.

 

[ThunderEmperor]

You shouldn't have said that... oh boy you shouldn't have said that..

ohhh damn, stupid me i didn't mean that. you knwo what never mind. :lol

 

[radioheadrule83]

Interesting interview. I think we're all ever anxious to see real games for the thing now.

And dark10x seems to be speaking his mind on a similar train of thought to mine. Posting beyond this seems pointless.

I'm really looking foreward to Nintendo Revolution.
< obviously

 

[ThunderEmperor]

People can rationalize all that they want but I think it's a given that the Rev will be considerably less powerful than the competition. Whether or not that will translate into significantly worse looking titles remains to be seen.

yes, and in nintendo's case they have proven to be capable of devlievering more for less

 

[drohne]

the revolution's case is too small to accomodate big hot chips, it doesn't support hd resolutions, and virtually every nintendo employee you ask has been downplaying the importance of graphics. now the president of nintendo has come right out and said that it won't be as powerful as xbox 360 or ps3. and some of you still won't draw the obvious conclusion. :/