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His social justice stance is the Catholic Church's stance on social justice.

Which is uncomfortably progressive for some.

He seems much more concerned than the last pope. He's gonna openly talk about it I hope.

I'm a fan of his 'all people deserve a basic standard of living' policy but I strongly oppose his 'gays are the devil' policy.

Same.

Modern Catholics are pretty Left minded apart from the obvious.

Paul Ryan

 

[Gannd]

I like his social justice stance, few GOPers are already calling him a socialist/commie

What GOPers are already calling him a socialist/commie? Cite this shit.

 

[Kurtofan]

But they're not hispanic, at least they don't consider themselves as such

EDIT: I don't think Latino is even a good description of Spaniards either

Hispanic comes from Hispania, the Roman name for the Iberian peninsula.

 

[gutter_trash]

I pope who can't speak French, English or Portuguese is not a Pope to me.
ppfffffff

i will this one out until they pick a better one

 

[zkylon]

As an argie I can give two shits about us getting the new pope but stop it people honking them car horns

 

[Acquiescence]

He's 76? Damn.

Yeah he's aged alright. Does he even lift though?

 

[Orbiter]

Close, but r/Atheism is still worse.

Um. No. No it isn't.

 

[Talon]

He seems much more concerned than the last pope. He's gonna openly talk about it I hope.

I mean, have you ever been to Mass? The welfare for the poor is the very first concern brought up in the prayer after communion.

Anyways, the new Pope rejects liberation doctrine.

 

[Guevara]

It still blows my mind that on paper at least the pope is the religious leader for 1 billion people or more.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Ehh I think they do it more out of an abundance of ego. They see themselves as above the rest of South America. They complimented me on my Spanish (which the call "Castellano") when I was there, and I explained that with my proximity to Mexico growing up, I learned a lot from friends...to which they tutted, expressing that Mexican Spanish and their Spanish were totally different languages (they're not at all).

But there still is a certain second class tension towards more Indigenous peoples and immigrants. This is a common problem in Latin America.

 

[criesofthepast]

Love that he chose Francis. Great great pick and long overdue.

 

[Bombadil]

I pope who can't speak French, English or Portuguese is not a Pope to me.
ppfffffff

i will this one out until they pick a better one

You say "ppffffff" a lot.

 

[el retorno]

What GOPers are already calling him a socialist/commie? Cite this shit.

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/311923862084407296

I mean, have you ever been to Mass?

No, well I went to one in France but I didn't speak french

 

[Talon]

But there still is a certain second class tension towards more Indigenous peoples and immigrants. This is a common problem in the world.

.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Paul Ryan

He's just Ayn Rand lite. A disgusting human being.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

Does that make them better people? That whole Argentinians are Europeans stuff gets on my nerves. Like being latino makes them lesser people.

I don't know what to say, I'm Argentinian and I always thought of myself as latin american even though I'm half spanish/french.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Um. No. No it isn't.

I wouldn't know, because unlike SOME posters in this thread, I don't visit sites with dead children on them.

You make me sick.

/flip-turned-upside-down

 

[The_Monk]

As a Practicing Catholic I'll give my first takes, because I think some people might be curious to hear our perspective (You might not be, but ah well)

Well, it's huge to see an Argentinian Pope, one of the Italian Cardinals (sorry I forget which one) had said earlier that they (The Conclave) need to look at our Brothers outside of Europe, particularly in Latin America.

Pope Francis I is likely not because of Francis of Assissi, but more likely Francis Xavier who was a great Jesuit and missionary.

Also, this is kind of surprising, this was the first time a new Pope recites the prayers with the people on his first appearance, Our Father, Haily Mary and Glory.

Another take was his refusal to wear the red cape (I don't remember the proper name right now, Sorry!) in contrast to both Benedict XVI and John Paul II, who both wore it. It looked like he just wanted to be very humble about this.


Thank you those of you who aren't exactly of my faith who are being respectful, haha even some of those jokes have made me laugh quite a bit. This is, quite a historic moment.

Thank you for taking you time writing fellow GAFfer.

He also seemed a very humble person. I'm not someone who goes to the church on sunday or... ever to be honest.

But I do like the story and I do respect all religions. I have my faith but most of the things I try to find myself as I gather questions, on my own (I understand it's not the best way, but there's a chance to change this).

 

[Aristion]

Hispanic comes from Hispania, the Roman name for the Iberian peninsula.

I know, but that's not the modern usage of the word when referring to Hispanic people, and usage determines meaning.

 

[Bisnic]

With all the language bs going on in Quebec, I'm not surprised one of them wrote that.

What does this have do with the language bs? Anyone else in the world could have done that.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Argentina has an anti-pope.

Here's his blog:

http://icaremanente.blogspot.com/

 

[Mr. Poolman]

He seems like a nice fellow.

Good luck Francis I.
The eyes of the world are upon you.

 

[ComputerMKII]

looked like a lazy attempt at "Religion is shit" but they spelt merde wrong

Québec French.

 

[Yamauchi]

Not a Catholic, but he seems like a cool guy. I can see an independent streak in his eyes.

 

[Bryan1321]

As a Practicing Catholic I'll give my first takes, because I think some people might be curious to hear our perspective (You might not be, but ah well)

Well, it's huge to see an Argentinian Pope, one of the Italian Cardinals (sorry I forget which one) had said earlier that they (The Conclave) need to look at our Brothers outside of Europe, particularly in Latin America.

Pope Francis I is likely not because of Francis of Assissi, but more likely Francis Xavier who was a great Jesuit and missionary.

Also, this is kind of surprising, this was the first time a new Pope recites the prayers with the people on his first appearance, Our Father, Haily Mary and Glory.

Another take was his refusal to wear the red cape (I don't remember the proper name right now, Sorry!) in contrast to both Benedict XVI and John Paul II, who both wore it. It looked like he just wanted to be very humble about this.


Thank you those of you who aren't exactly of my faith who are being respectful, haha even some of those jokes have made me laugh quite a bit. This is, quite a historic moment.

This surely is an hystoric moment

The one thing that needed to have the new pope, was that change

I really liked his speech even if it was short, it hit the point quickly and was a good sign of things to come

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

 

[dark_chris]

Oh look at this, we got a BIG MAN here. People these days...

 

[zkylon]

I don't know what to say, I'm Argentinian and I always thought of myself as latin american even though I'm half spanish/french.

99% of all middle class argies are wannabe europeans or americans.

We're the proud 1% lol

 

[Vanillalite]

As someone who recently has been trying to go back to the church and go to mass on a somewhat weekly basis I'm pleased with the pick!

 

[paully]

That Mexican chick talking to Anderson Cooper is pretty hot.

 

[Martian]

Even though I have no religious beliefs whatsoever, I think this is a good move!

I have no idea whether or not he will be living up to his personal views, but methinks his beliefs are an improvement. He takes a sober standpoint (not wearing his pope-scarf etc.) so yeah, good for him!

Bring it on, change!

 

[Takuya]

What does this have do with the language bs? Anyone else in the world could have done that.

I'm pretty certain a Quebecer did that. Nobody in France writes "merde" as "marde". Anyway, that's another topic.

Grats to the new Pope.

 

[Bossun]

I think he is pretty conservative on euthanasia, abortion, homosexuality and such.

It doesn't bode very well...

 

[Freezie KO]

Religious institutions should be respected,

Not really. There's no use in the modern world for an institution whose sole purpose is to promote faith and ideology over facts and reason.

This is such a silly parade if you consider what a pope is supposed to represent. If it didn't terrifyingly affect so much in the world, it'd be laughable that this is even a thing in the 21st century.

 

[Talon]

Not really. There's no use in the modern world for an institution whose sole purpose is to promote faith and ideology over facts and reason.

This is such a silly parade if you consider what a pope is supposed to represent. If it didn't terrifyingly affect so much in the world, it'd be laughable that this is even a thing in the 21st century.

Your modern open-mindedness is truly something to be respected.

 

[Andrefpvs]

Has this joke been made yet? Pope Mario.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

Oh look at this, we got a BIG BANG here. People these days...

Fixed.

 

[paully]

I'm pretty certain a Quebecer did that. Nobody in France writes "merde" as "marde". Anyway, that's another topic.

Grats to the new Pope.

Yup. Nobody in France spells merde as marde.

 

[gutter_trash]

I'm pretty certain a Quebecer did that. Nobody in France writes "merde" as "marde". Anyway, that's another topic.

Grats to the new Pope.

Cardinal Ouellet was more keen at covering up abuse by other priests iinside Quebec than serving justice.

I am happy that Ouellet did not become Pope.

 

[KanyeEast]

Who was the youngest Pope ever? Pope John Paul II was only 58 at the start of his run. I am not Catholic, but I was a pretty big "fan" of his.

EDIT:

Or of modern times I guess I should say...

Even as a muslim i think that Pope John Paul II was a awesome dude. Million times better than that german dude.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Not really. There's no use in the modern world for an institution whose sole purpose is to promote faith and ideology over facts and reason.

This is such a silly parade if you consider what a pope is supposed to represent. If it didn't terrifyingly affect so much in the world, it'd be laughable that this is even a thing in the 21st century.

Not the thread for this.

 

[Cyrillus]

I can't un-see Pope Jonathan Pryce.

Exactly what I was thinking. It's uncanny.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Abortion and euthanasia

Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.[8]

Homosexuality

He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are gay or lesbian.[citation needed] He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage, calling it a "real and dire anthropological throwback".[9] In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote: "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God." He has also insisted that adoption by gay and lesbian people is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the church's tone was reminiscent of "medieval times and the Inquisition".[10]

Relations with the Argentine government

See also: Dirty War
On April 15, 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the junta in 1976 to kidnap two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new military dictatorship, with some priests advocating a violent overthrow. Bergoglio's spokesman has flatly denied the allegations. No evidence was presented linking the cardinal to this crime.[11]

From wikipedia

 

[braves01]

99% of all middle class argies are wannabe europeans or americans.

We're the proud 1% lol

As an American, I have always viewed Argentinians as true South/Latin Americans and not as displaced Euros, and I appreciate your fine alpaca products.

 

[G-Unit]

So much trolling and disrespect in this thread... oh well, I guess freedom of speech before anything.

 

[Buddha Beam]

Wait, what's the name the Pope will supposedly take that will signal the antichrist coming? Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Not really. There's no use in the modern world for an institution whose sole purpose is to promote faith and ideology over facts and reason.

This is such a silly parade if you consider what a pope is supposed to represent. If it didn't terrifyingly affect so much in the world, it'd be laughable that this is even a thing in the 21st century.

Lol, people were saying that in the 17th century too.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Wait, what's the name the Pope will supposedly take that will signal the antichrist coming? Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Isnt it Peter or something like that?

 

[ComputerMKII]

Even as an atheist, I appreciate the gravity of this event.

Religious institutions should be respected, as long as they can live with our views as well.

Politeness is mandatory but respect has to be earned.

 

[alfredofroylan]

I've been reading "El Clarin" and seems that the current Argentina president Cristina kirchner had a hard time with Bergoglio, is that true?

 

[zkylon]

By the way this is a guy that supported the argentinian dictatorship behind a 30000 political murders so yeah.

As an American, I have always viewed Argentinians as true South Americans and not as displaced Euros, and I appreciate your fine alpaca products.

Thanks lol