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New information to the PlayStation3 03.02.06 - The American ' PlayStationMagazine '

(PSM) published into its newest Ausgae further details to the PlayStation3. The information comes from developers, that remained anonymous; in principle the PSM does not call names, and the statements were not offizell confirmed by Sony yet:

- are to be in the USA by far more plays for the PS3 in work, than originally accepted. - says a not more near well-known developer that it received the final development hardware of the PlayStation3 at the beginning of January 2006; the hardware is faster, than it expected it.

- the PlayStation3 is to possess functions one ' digitally video recorder ' (DVR). In addition there is to be a Download service in the kind of iTunes for High definition films and music. - the PlayStation3 is to exceed the Media center functions of the Xbox 360. All important video and audio formats can be streamen over a ' Home network '.

- a ' location Free' rendition over PSP is planned: Thus one is to be able to show video, photo, music, DVDs, uvm. from the ' Home network ' world-wide over the InterNet. - PSP is to be able to send data to the PlayStation3: So one could send a MEMORY stick with Urblaubsfotos of the DigiCam over PSP home to the PS3.

- beside regular firmware updates of the PSP there is to be similar updates perhaps also for PlayStation3.

- the Blu ray functionality of the PlayStation3 is more favorable than a normal Blu ray Player, because the Cell and RSX chip settle many things during the reading of the Discs.

- the PS3 is to appear in the autumn 2006 in the USA. When the on-line service of the PS3 will start, is unclear. Since however starting titles are equipped with ONLINE functions, the service should probably be ready for the sales start.
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All important video and audio formats can be streamen over a ' Home network '.
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Sounds great. I wonder what their definition of "all important ... formats" are. Xvid, divx? Or only mpeg and wmv?
 
I don't feel like I can believe shit until E3, and even then - I doubt I can even trust that info all that much.

MS lied to us saying every 360 will come with a HD standard, and that didn't pan out.
 
Borys said:
No online service at start = ruh-roh.

BIG ruh-roh.
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the direct quote from the mag is:

As for when the ambitious online service will launch, that remains a closely guarded secret, but the fact the developers are making launch games online compatible should be a pretty big clue.
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so it may or may not be ready at launch
 
araganekyassuru said:
I just don't trust "official" magazines when it comes to stu.. anything
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If its from PSM its not Sony's "official" magazine, thats OPM. PSM is a total rag at this point though, early on it was a decent mag (well, for free at least).
 
the PlayStation3 is to possess functions one ' digitally video recorder ' (DVR). In addition there is to be a Download service in the kind of iTunes for High definition films and music. - the PlayStation3 is to exceed the Media center functions of the Xbox 360.
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There is no way this is costing 399 if it's a DVR as well.

All important video and audio formats can be streamen over a ' Home network '.
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I'd say xvid and divx will be deemed "not important" due them being linked to unwanted releases.
 
If it's DLNA compliant, the idea is the server converts it to whatever the "renderer" (PS3) can play. But it may not be :P And some server software doesn't offer transcoding, so it would depend on what you're running on your PC..

BTW, I basically posted this stuff in the original PSM thread.
 
AMAZINGNESS COMING SOON, WITH AMAZINGNESS LATER! DON'T MISS OUT ON YOUR AMAZINGNESS!

Well, i'm sold...
 
The launch date certainly seems about right.

Summer = Jap
Autumn = US
Spring '07 = Euro

Good news about the bluray ability of the console/DVR/Bluray player/Media Extender or whatever the hell it is.
 
DVR?

If they put DVR functions alongside the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market then their Blu-Ray association partners are going to go apeshit surely?
 
I originally said $400 but now I think this thing is going to cost $500. It does a lot though, if it can do DVR it'll be worth it.

Who cares, Im not getting my hopes up till Sony speaks.
 
Having DVR functionality would require a change to the input-output specification of the console since there is no AV input on the device. I'm calling BS on at least the DVR thing.
 
No way the PS3 has a DVR built in. Last we heard Sony was still considering whether or not to include a hard drive at all. And if they are looking to make this thing affordable, I don't see how they can add more functionality to it such as a DVR.

The downloadable content thing seems possible. Sony is clearly heading in that direction, espeically with the success of iTunes. Using the PS3 has a media extender for the PSP sounds cool, but Sony's location free TV isn't exactly cheap on it's own, so not sure what that would do to the price structure of the PS3.

Otherwise, there isn't much info in this posting that we haven't heard before or at least heard speculated before. We all know Sony is going to jump into the Online segment with PS3, but at this point I'd be shocked if it were ready for launch in any widescale way. It took Microsoft, which has more networking experience and resources, a year to build Live in the States, and longer to roll it out in other regions, and then it continued to evolve since that time. Sony's trying to build a similar network, with more features if you believe the hype, before a fall launch? I doubt it.
 
By DVR they can also think of PS3 being a client/controller for your PC which is doing all the actual recording "hard work".
 
Marconelly said:
By DVR they can also think of PS3 being a client/controller for your PC which is doing all the actual recording "hard work".
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So now they're going to add Windows Media Extender to the mix? I doubt that greatly. Most content providers wouldn't be very happy if the PS3 streamed non-DRM'ed video content from a PC.

Not to mention Windows XP Service Pack 3 would be out damn fast. You know, the patch that makes it incompatible with PS3. ;)
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
So now they're going to add Windows Media Extender to the mix? I doubt that greatly. Most content providers wouldn't be very happy if the PS3 streamed non-DRM'ed video content from a PC.

Not to mention Windows XP Service Pack 3 would be out damn fast. You know, the patch that makes it incompatible with PS3. ;)
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Look up DLNA, it's a lot broader than Media Extender. That's assuming PS3 goes that route (though it is the most obvious one).

Also, about LocationFree, it lets you watch whatever is on TV at the moment, "live", on your PSP. PS3<->PSP will/should let you browse and access stored media on your PS3 from your PSP, which is a little different.
 
I forget where I read it recently but this could be where PSP battery life gets its largest test. I suppose by the time PS3 is released, a new more effecient PSP model will be too. But does that mean I'm going to have to spend another $200 for optimum functionality (read: streaming TV)?
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
I forget where I read it recently but this could be where PSP battery life gets its largest test. I suppose by the time PS3 is released, a new more effecient PSP model will be too. But does that mean I'm going to have to spend another $200 for optimum functionality (read: streaming TV)?
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Well yeah, obviously wifi usage would drain PSP's battery. But there's already a longer-life battery available as an accessory, and there'll probably be more. If you found you needed more battery life, it wouldn't require a new model :)
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I don't feel like I can believe shit until E3, and even then - I doubt I can even trust that info all that much.

MS lied to us saying every 360 will come with a HD standard, and that didn't pan out.
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They said that Every unit would ship with a hard drive, not that the hard drive would be standard.

They still ended up changing their mind about 'every unit' so it was technically a lie but in no way did they ever say that all 360s would always have HDDs
 
gofreak said:
Look up DLNA, it's a lot broader than Media Extender. That's assuming PS3 goes that route (though it is the most obvious one).

Also, about LocationFree, it lets you watch whatever is on TV at the moment, "live", on your PSP. PS3<->PSP will/should let you browse and access stored media on your PS3 from your PSP, which is a little different.
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Yeah, I can see DLNA playing a part in this, but you still need to get content onto your computer that is legal. I suppose Sony's new online media store is accessed by your computer, and you purchase the items you want, and they are streamed across your home network. That I can understand, but when it comes to true DVR funcitonality, it goes way beyond that. For instance, your PC needs to have software to handle the scheduling, electronc program guide, etc, and a video card that can act as a TV tuner to make this at all practical. At that point, I'd never call the PS3 a DVR or that it even has DVR functionality, just the ability to stream from a PC.

Right now, Windows Media Center is probably the best way to do this on a PC, and I don't see Sony allying itself with Microsoft at all. Of course, once Vista ships, it'll have some Media Center functionality built in, and that may help, but it'll work the same on the X360, so not really a benefit for the PS3 alone.

I still call bullshit on the DVR functions.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Yeah, I can see DLNA playing a part in this, but you still need to get content onto your computer that is legal. I suppose Sony's new online media store is accessed by your computer, and you purchase the items you want, and they are streamed across your home network. That I can understand, but when it comes to true DVR funcitonality, it goes way beyond that. For instance, your PC needs to have software to handle the scheduling, electronc program guide, etc, and a video card that can act as a TV tuner to make this at all practical. At that point, I'd never call the PS3 a DVR or that it even has DVR functionality, just the ability to stream from a PC.

Right now, Windows Media Center is probably the best way to do this on a PC, and I don't see Sony allying itself with Microsoft at all. Of course, once Vista ships, it'll have some Media Center functionality built in, and that may help, but it'll work the same on the X360, so not really a benefit for the PS3 alone.

I still call bullshit on the DVR functions.
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Oh, I totally agree on the DVR really. They're likely not going to have a hybrid PC/PS3, it'll either be all in one box or it won't, and I'm betting it won't.

But, just in terms of media sharing between your PC and PS3, that's where I'm seeing DLNA perhaps being relevant. I don't know what provision it makes regarding checking for legality of content..
 
Vark said:
They said that Every unit would ship with a hard drive, not that the hard drive would be standard.

They still ended up changing their mind about 'every unit' so it was technically a lie but in no way did they ever say that all 360s would always have HDDs
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Saying every unit would come with a hard drive pretty much means the same thing that I said.

Saying differently is just splitting hairs and minor semantics IMO.
 
The good thing is that Microsoft are part of the DLNA aswell so if Sony do go ahead with it I can see Microsoft playing the "me too" card! :D
 
Vark said:
They said that Every unit would ship with a hard drive, not that the hard drive would be standard.

They still ended up changing their mind about 'every unit' so it was technically a lie but in no way did they ever say that all 360s would always have HDDs
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I can't believe you went there...

Marconelly said:
By DVR they can also think of PS3 being a client/controller for your PC which is doing all the actual recording "hard work".
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And Sony heavily touting a feature that requires your Windows XP PC? Not likely.
 
Jerkface said:
The good thing is that Microsoft are part of the DLNA aswell so if Sony do go ahead with it I can see Microsoft playing the "me too" card! :D
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My guess is they're really hoping Sony won't go there. They'd reluctantly move away from the artificial dependency on MCE.

But still, they won't be able to "me too" streaming over bluetooth with the likes of the nokia nseries or such :p Or the whole PSP<->PS3 stuff.. The I/O options on PS3 make it a little more robust, potentially, for this kind of thing.
 
gofreak said:
My guess is they're really hoping Sony won't go there. They'd reluctantly move away from the artificial dependency on MCE.

But still, they won't be able to "me too" streaming over bluetooth with the likes of the nokia nseries or such :p Or the whole PSP<->PS3 stuff.. The I/O options on PS3 make it a little more robust, potentially, for this kind of thing.
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Oh yeah the PSP stuff is going to remain a bullet point for Sony, but I figure Microsoft are probably trying to wait for Vista to hit before making upgrades so they can get everyone onto that.
 
Sony are going DLNA big time.

MS could copy it with a click of the fingers, and simultaneously kill off MCE. Wonder which way they'll turn?

intel are pushing VIIV a lot, which is basically DLNA with an intel 'brand' tweak. So some potential competition between intel and MS there.
 
PS3 being able to act as a DVR would be huge. This is what I wanted out of the 360, but realized it will never happen once MS opted for a tiny external HDD.

You should be able to buy a 100-120GIG hdd on PS3 for the same price as the 20 gig external 360 hdd. MS should have made the drive slot based so you could have more storage.

OH, and...

are to be in the USA by far more plays for the PS3 in work, than originally accepted. - says a not more near well-known developer that it received the final development hardware of the PlayStation3 at the beginning of January 2006; the hardware is faster, than it expected it.
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Hardware upgrade?
 
That, or maybe they really misjudged the performance gains the increased bandwidth yields?

Then again, so little is known about RSX. Maybe it is more than most people are assuming?
 
Who knows, perhaps Sony's changed the second HDMI port to a input port? That configuration would make more sense in a way and in itself wouldn't add much cost at all (none if you ignore the redesign cost, assuming that the HDMI signal isn't shared). But the PS3 would need to come with a fair sized HD to make use of it though, yes?

If Sony would be interested in adding a HDMI in, would they then really be interested in splitting the market in two sections? One that can use HDMI (large HD) and one that can't (No HD small mem stick/ No HD fair sized memstick/ small HD). Wouldn't DVR functionallity be something that'd be "large" enough for them to want to actively market, and thus it'd be hard to maintain two SKUs where one of them wouldn't have this functionallity (adds the risk of confusing the customer base and pissing them off)? And then there is the issue of the cost that shipping with a HD capable of holding more then a few 1080p HDTV movies/TV shows in it.
 
Im pretty sure you would be able to set the resolution of the recording to fit your need.
Speaking of that, Im picking up a Sony Bravia 32 LCD next week(V series). I don't have time to wait for 1080p but after seeing a demonstration today Im very pleased.
Oblivion 720p soon.
 
Eric_S said:
Who knows, perhaps Sony's changed the second HDMI port to a input port? That configuration would make more sense in a way and in itself wouldn't add much cost at all (none if you ignore the redesign cost, assuming that the HDMI signal isn't shared). But the PS3 would need to come with a fair sized HD to make use of it though, yes?

If Sony would be interested in adding a HDMI in, would they then really be interested in splitting the market in two sections? One that can use HDMI (large HD) and one that can't (No HD small mem stick/ No HD fair sized memstick/ small HD). Wouldn't DVR functionallity be something that'd be "large" enough for them to want to actively market, and thus it'd be hard to maintain two SKUs where one of them wouldn't have this functionallity (adds the risk of confusing the customer base and pissing them off)? And then there is the issue of the cost that shipping with a HD capable of holding more then a few 1080p HDTV movies/TV shows in it.
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I think it's a cert the second HDMI remains video-out. We had "confirmation" in another thread (DCharlie) that some devs were working on uses for two screens in their game. I think also, more fundamentally, Sony may also push PS3 as something that can be used by more than one person at one time, which two screens would obviously be useful for (e.g. one person gaming on one screen, another person browsing the web on another).

As for DVR, I don't think it has it. But if it were to have it, I don't think having it as an option along with the HDD would be too disastrous at all. Though with DLNA, you could possibly record something onto a smaller HDD and then stream it off to your PC or network HDD or whatever for more permanent storage (but there's another "if" in the equation!).
 
if this is true, looks like Ken wasnt joking when he said the PS3 wasn't a games machine!
 
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