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[teruterubozu]

I hope they call this attack "The Roker".

 

[Dante]

I would love to see that also

Considering this was what they acheived 5 years ago:

I will be dissapointed if it doesn't match the teaser trailer in quality.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Looking at the VF5 pics, I most definatley agree that the Tekken shot shown should be possible. It looks to be a better model with more advanced lighting.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

It'll be the best looking next gen fighter, which is impressive depending on what you've thought of the fighters we've seen so far.

:lol Keep telling yourself that.

Both Ridge Racer 6 and Frame City Killer look very poor. What makes your predicting ass think that Tekken PS3 will be the best looking next gen fighter?

So far all namco's next gen efforts = meh!

Give me this quality in game on PS3 Namco please:

Would love to see how pissed Itagaki will get if TTT2 trumps DOA4 in visuals.

I would love to see that too but sadly the trailer Namco showed at E3 was CG.

 

[SolidSnakex]

:lol Keep telling yourself that.

Both Ridge Racer 6 and Frame City Killer look very poor. What makes your predicting ass think that Tekken PS3 will be the best looking next gen fighter?

Yah because the RR team and FCK teams are exactly the same as the Tekken team, DB. The Tekken team has always been the best at NAMCO when it comes to pushing a system, as shown by how T5 looks better than SC3 even though SC3 is a newer game.

 

[Deg]

T5 and Sc3 are subjective given SC's backgrounds and animation. Also i think Namco Ps3 games will be much nicer than their Xbox 360 and Revolution games.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Yah because the RR team and FCK teams are exactly the same as the Tekken team, DB. The Tekken team has always been the best at NAMCO when it comes to pushing a system, as shown by how T5 looks better than SC3 even though SC3 is a newer game.

Please don't start with this "team" business because we don't really know if the Tekken programmers are working on FCK or Ridge Racer VI. Staff that worked on Tekken and Ace Combat is helping with Frame City Killer, I read that in a interview some time ago. We will se what happens though! I am betting that DOA 4 will be the best looking next fighter

 

[Dante]

So far all namco's 360 next gen efforts = meh!

Fixed

Seeing how Microsofts consoles sell in Japan dont put too much stock in those "next gen " Namco games. Wait till PS3 hits, I have a feeling that's where Namco's full effort will lie.

 

[SolidSnakex]

DoA4 doesn't even look as good as VF5. Have you seen the video that Reno posted recently of VF5? The lighting is amazing, animation is great and characters models have improved over the original trailer.

But then again you've been doubting the PS3 constantly, as you did when you said there was no way Polypohony would have a new build of GT5 at TGS and then look what happened.

 

[C- Warrior]

Both Ridge Racer 6 and Frame City Killer look very poor. What makes your predicting ass think that Tekken PS3 will be the best looking next gen fighter?

Dude what the fuck, you're just making dumb statements left and right today aren't you

There is a difference between making a game quickly so it can hit launch. And there is a difference with Frame City killer being that's it a free-roaming big sandbox esque game, which in terms of graphic design and technacalities; it's very much different from a one versus one contained fighting game. Furthermore, it's a new I.P--Tekken is a sure-hit million+ worldwide seller, Frame City...maybe not so much.

This is Tekken we're talking about. I don't think "fucking it over" is high on Namco's to-do list.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Fixed

Seeing how Microsofts consoles sell in Japan dont put too much stock in those "next gen " Namco games. Wait till PS3 hits, I have a feeling that's where Namco's full effort will lie.

I think Namco is very confident with X360. They bought a 1 million dollar Unreal 3 engine just for FCK and they expect it to sell 1 million copies. About the crappy looking X360 Namco games comment, it tells me that Namco don't have a good grip on the new hardware just yet. It will take some time to learn and use the new stuff.

 

[BlueTsunami]

DoA4 doesn't even look as good as VF5. Have you seen the video that Reno posted recently of VF5? The lighting is amazing, animation is great and characters models have improved over the original trailer.

But then again you've been doubting the PS3 constantly, as you did when you said there was no way Polypohony would have a new build of GT5 at TGS and then look what happened.

You also have to remember that VF5s LINDBERGH system is using a regular 7800 GPU so the RSX itself should be capable of giving the same VF5 visuals if not better than them.

Noet: I'm fully confident the visuals can be met, I just want to see better animation.

 

[Defensor]

I am betting that DOA 4 will be the best looking next fighter

Bullshit.

EDIT: Here is what I was looking for:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1370754&postcount=297

... The game[Gears of War] looks fucking incredible; I doubt any PS3 game will be able to match it (graphically).

http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1370915&postcount=304

I was only talking to gigadent. Epic is a very talented company and it's known that they have been working on this engine for a while. Is there ANY Sony dev out there that can make an engine similar to U 3.0? No and especially not Capcom. GoW is going to be one the best looking next gen games on any system.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1371347&postcount=311

element said that Epic is now a MS 2nd party. I remember him specifically saying that there will be no Unreal games on PS3 but I am not sure about the engine.

Come on.

Your statement is right on this though:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1371461&postcount=315

I meant launch games! Of course both PS3 and 360 will have better looking games compared to GoW down the line, it's only a first gen game after all...

DOA4 may be a great looking fighting game now for next get, but other fighters that come out after it on both 360 and PS3 will of course be better looking next gen fighters i.e. Tekken and Virtua Fighter Next.

 

[Deg]

But then again you've been doubting the PS3 constantly, as you did when you said there was no way Polypohony would have a new build of GT5 at TGS and then look what happened.

Sssh. PS3 is not real. Its all fake.

 

[momolicious]

^ dood, what are you talking about?! are you crazy, its coming out in couple months

 

[Doom_Bringer]

DoA4 doesn't even look as good as VF5. Have you seen the video that Reno posted recently of VF5? The lighting is amazing, animation is great and characters models have improved over the original trailer.

But then again you've been doubting the PS3 constantly, as you did when you said there was no way Polypohony would have a new build of GT5 at TGS and then look what happened.

VF5 looks very poor, with VF its just the same old, same old over and over. Confined stages, no AA, weak shading effects etc while DOA4 looks very high res, has huge interactive stages.

There is no build of GT5 just yet. They are using an optimized GT4 engine on PS3.

Bullshit. You said before that the Unreal Tournament 2007 Engine wouldn't be possible on early PS3 efforts. Or something in the lines of PS3 graphics won't look as good as the Unreal Engine(Let me find the quote).

I thought Unreal 3.0 wouldn't come to PS3 because Epic had deal going with Microsoft where all first party MS titles would use the Unreal 3 engine. Basically I thought MS had an exclusive deal going with Epic, element also said that.

 

[BlueTsunami]

VF5 looks very poor, with VF its just the same old, same old over and over. Confined stages, no AA, weak shading effects etc while DOA4 looks very high res, has huge interactive stages.

There is no build of GT5 just yet. They are using an optimized GT4 engine on PS3.

Have you seen the new VF5 videos?

 

[SolidSnakex]

VF5 looks very poor, with VF its just the same old, same old over and over. Confined stages, no AA, weak shading effects etc while DOA4 looks very high res, has huge interactive stages.

There is no build of GT5 just yet. They are using an optimized GT4 engine on PS3.

Yah you definetly haven't seen the new trailer.

And what build of GT4 did you play that looked like this?

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Have you seen the new VF5 videos?

yea I thought it was alright but DOA4 looks better because of the huge interactive stages.

Yah you definetly haven't seen the new trailer.

And what build of GT4 did you play that looked like this?

hmm looks like I was wrong there.

 

[BlueTsunami]

yea I thought it was alright but DOA4 looks better because of the huge interactive stages

Yeah, thats true but I personally think the VF5 visuals are much better than DOA4. To me, the VF5 models, self shadowing and the fluidity of the animation are a notch above DOA4.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Bullshit.

EDIT: Here is what I was looking for:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1370754&postcount=297


http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1370915&postcount=304


http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1371347&postcount=311


Come on.

Your statement is right on this though:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1371461&postcount=315

DOA4 may be a great looking fighting game now for next get, but other fighters that come out after it on both 360 and PS3 will of course be better looking next gen fighters i.e. Tekken and Virtua Fighter Next.

I was 100% right on everything and I still believe that Devil May Cry 4 won't look better than GOW. MGS4 is a 2nd gen PS3 game so I wouldn't compare it to GOW.

 

[BlueTsunami]

The problem with UE3 is that its made to be flexible across two different platforms (i'm not sure if Nintendos Revolution is in on it). IMO Once you start seeing custumized engines for specific platforms, they WILL surpass UE3 games. This goes for the PS3 and 360.

Edit: UE3 actually spans across PS3, Xbox360 and the PC.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Here was the leap Tekken showed from last gen to this gen.

Tekken 3

Tekken Tag

 

[Eiji]

IMO Tekken Tag Tournament still looks great. It had effects that looked like real pixel shader material though the PS2 can't do pixel shading and the lighting is still amazing and even better than T5's lighting.

 

[Companion Cube]

Is there a list of gameplay fixes somewhere? I've never been able to hit anyone after doing Lee's Mist Counter or whatever its called cause they always recover faster than I do.

 

[Deg]

^ dood, what are you talking about?! are you crazy, its coming out in couple months

Twas sarcasm. should have thrown a vent joke in there?

 

[C- Warrior]

I was 100% right on everything and I still believe that Devil May Cry 4 won't look better than GOW.

Well yeah, since DMC4 will be running at 60 frames per second with get this: good animation to boot. MY GOD?

And DMC4 isn't a launch game or anywhere close, unless Capcom developes the remaining 95% in under a year. Whilst the first 5% apparently took them 7 months.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

IMO Tekken Tag Tournament still looks great. It had effects that looked like real pixel shader material though the PS2 can't do pixel shading and the lighting is still amazing and even better than T5's lighting.

I agree. I played TTT long after it came out and was amazed at how good it still looked. I don't know what they did but the effects look like they were near pixel shading refined.

 

[Azelover]

Okay graphics, but they need to drop this ridiculous carnival look, it's starting to look like a freaking 'gay pride' parade.

 

[ThirdEye]

I thought Unreal 3.0 wouldn't come to PS3 because Epic had deal going with Microsoft where all first party MS titles would use the Unreal 3 engine.

All first party MS titles would use the Unreal 3 engine? Where did you hear that?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Okay graphics, but they need to drop this ridiculous carnival look, it's starting to look like a freaking 'gay pride' parade.

You know that carnival look comes from custom outfitted characters, right?

 

[Anyanka]

Yay more talk of DOA4 vs. VF5 graphics. More important is the fact that we're getting even more T5. I was not satisfied with T5.1 but this looks great. Armor King being back is good and there's still one more new character we don't know about yet. Ogre would be a good choice.

 

[swordsman]

:lol

I would love to see that also

If Team Ninja has got the same amount time as Namco has with Tekken Next..and the winner will be Team Ninja...

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Yes Namco runs out of ideas..
What a crap gfx:0

 

[SolidSnakex]

If Team Ninja has got the same amount time as Namco has with Tekken Next..and the winner will be Team Ninja...

This theory is absed on what exactly?

 

[swordsman]

This theory is absed on what exactly?

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That the peoples from Team Ninja are more talented than Namco Tekken team..
The proof>>See the screens of this Tekken serie..

 

[SolidSnakex]

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That the peoples from Team Ninja are more talented than Namco Tekken team..
The proof>>See the screens of this Tekken serie..

Do you really want people to dig up screens of Team Ninja's only effort on the PS2? That's the way you compare the 2 of them.

 

[BlueTsunami]

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That the peoples from Team Ninja are more talented than Namco Tekken team..
The proof>>See the screens of this Tekken serie..

You know whats going to be interesting though? Namco and Team Ninja will be on equal footing with console abilities next gen. Even then, I find DOA games to look very unnapealing, if you going to reference to a good looking Team Ninja game, I would bring up Ninja Gaiden.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

All first party MS titles would use the Unreal 3 engine? Where did you hear that?

Back in Feb 2005. They annouced a deal with Epic, go look it up

 

[SolidSnakex]

You know whats going to be interesting though? Namco and Team Ninja will be on equal footing with console abilities next gen.

They've been on equal footing before and we've seen who's came out on top.

I'm expecting alot from the next Tekken though. We've seen 2 high profile next gen fighters at this point and while I like the direction that the next VF is head its not a good sign when adventure games have better looking or equal character models to fighting games. I haven't seen that happen in any generation but it seems to be happening now. NAMCO hasn't let me down at this point when it comes to stepping things up and I don't know why I should doubt them now.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Well yeah, since DMC4 will be running at 60 frames per second with get this: good animation to boot. MY GOD?

And DMC4 isn't a launch game or anywhere close, unless Capcom developes the remaining 95% in under a year. Whilst the first 5% apparently took them 7 months.

How do you know that DMC4 will be 60 FPS? GOW isn't a launch game either, it comes out in August 2006

 

[C- Warrior]

How do you know that DMC4 will be 60 FPS? GOW isn't a launch game either, it comes out in August 2006

Oh I don't know...maybe because every damn DMC game before it has been 60 fps locked. Or that the only way to create a better sense of action than DMC3's already amazing as fuck action system is to -keep- the game at 60 frames per second.

Some things in gaming are nearly given, if Capcom is saying they want Resident "point and shoot for the 50,000th thousand time" Evil 5 to be 60 fps, you really think they'll have Devil May "bajallion combo, free-form, weapon switch, cancel combo fest" Cry 4 to be at 30?

 

[momolicious]

The reason Tekken Tag still looks good is becuse it uses way more polygons than Tekken 4 and 5. T4 and T5 used less polygons and used better lighting and effects

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

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That the peoples from Team Ninja are more talented than Namco Tekken team..
The proof>>See the screens of this Tekken serie..

Team Tekken now have the advantage of more powerful hardware to work with as opposed to Team Ninja...

 

[VictimOfGrief]

IBTVDOA* (in before tekken vs doa but sadly that has already happened)