CyberPanda
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So what did I miss?
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Samanosuke Akechi
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DeepEnigma
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No. They don’t have gyro either.
ethomaz
Banned
Sony like last gen is again the underdog.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Logo reveal. 106m PS4s sold to customers. More PS5 info to come throughout the year.
Outside Phil tweeting the anaconda die nothing at all. As humpty says it big like a pickle.
Hawking Radiation
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Savage
Oh Larry has crawled out from under the rock he has hid under since Sony started handing MS their ass this gen.
CyberPanda
Banned
So glad I slept in. Lol
Hawking Radiation
Member
Amazing how people think Sony being quiet means they're weak LOL
You thought CES is the place for a console reveal? lol
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As much of an underdog as those ragtag 1920s yankee's lol.
Mochilador
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Well Sony did announce the PS5 through Twitter.
Musky_Cheese
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People don’t buy consoles for TFlops! They buy depending on A) Sexy Logos B) First Party Games and C) Did I mention Sexy Logos
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Right? Lol
CuriousToe
Member
I assume because Sony went up on the CES stage to talk PS5 and said basically nothing sarcastic clap.
Rightisright
Banned
Yeah, negative press is great for companies. It's great for their share prices, investors and the like. In fact companies just love to have 6 months of terrible untrue facts floating around about their product, just so they can say you were wrong.
They marketing and PR firms millions to a give the best possible roll out and narrative for their products. But yet are happy to have all this terrible press out there.
I can 1000% tell you that would not be how Sony would be thinking.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Aside from the RAM, every other rumor between XBO and PS4 put PS4 ahead in all metrics. Losing out on the RAM in terms of rumors wasn't a big loss compared to winning out in the other rumors and hard leaks.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
All the negative reactions or so called negative press are on those people expecting things that were never going to happen.
Sure even I had my hopes up but this was not the event for a PS5 reveal, that will happen soon on Sony's terms.
Sure even I had my hopes up but this was not the event for a PS5 reveal, that will happen soon on Sony's terms.
Rightisright
Banned
It was actually going to only have 4gigs of GDDR5 RAM. Sony at the last minute changed it when they thought the price was going to go down.
So yeah, its totally different.
CuriousToe
Member
Isn't it a wave emoji?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
It was a combination of the prices coming down enough and the production capacities increasing. Even after that reveal there were Sony guys talking about how they were uncertain it was going to have 8GB of GDDR5 until late in the game. It'd explain why they did clamshell mode with x16 512MB modules originally on a 256-bit bus.
ethomaz
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It is because they didn’t show their cards yet.
Everything is just that rumors.
More you hide your cards = more chance to win big the game.
Sony just need a good event to change everything and make people think they surprised everybody with the new and hot PS5.
Apple does that every years and Sony already said they want to do reveal like Apple.... they reveal the product with everything at the right time not giving a shit about rumors.
I still don’t understand what MS is trying to archive revealing little things over and over again.
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Really I'm proud of myself I can't tell those things apart! My bad for trying to interpret a teenager language lol. Old man yelling at cloud's!
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Hawking Radiation
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Yep.
We have those people in this very thread lol.
I'm happy we got a logo and didn't expect anything, not even specs or features so confirmation of hardware ray tracing and 3D Audio was a nice gesture.
Disco_
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Winter just started. Depression train is just picking up steam.
Imtjnotu
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WHY does the Soc say Scarlett?
The Mad Draklor
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And just how many people actually are aware of these untrue facts? Is it enough to actually cause Sony's stock to drop dramatically? Extrapolating the stock market from GAF reactions is a laughable method.
But my point still stands. Sony didn't immediately say "No, the PS4 has 8 gigs not 4 gigs" despite rumors of the PS4 only being 4 gigs being floated around. And another user already explained the full context, so I don't need to repeat it here.
Rightisright
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Its not about showing their cards. One tweet from Cerny saying something like "we prefer out tflops double digit " or "at PlayStation we don't do 9s" and bam, all that negative press goes away, and everyone is back to thinking the PS5 will be a beast.
Nickolaidas
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To be fair, it kinda is OsirisBack's 'fault' (as well as cboat's) that we got hyped for a ps5 reveal at CES.
Sony never tweeted or said anything about the ps5 for CES.
Sony never tweeted or said anything about the ps5 for CES.
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DForce
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It's just a picture of the SoC.
longdi
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Jim is cowardly.
I have not seen SCE this scared and evasive.
Like 3d audio being first on the diagram, is that your performance lead?
Ultra bluray? Xbox1 already did it.
A refreshed logo?
I bet Sony wanted to have some power talks, but pulled out as they feared MS retaliation which makes them look bad
ethomaz
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But why?
The impact will be way bigger if it shows the TFs at PS5 event in February.
BTW which negative press? Or do you mean the laughable jump conclusions articles based in rumors? These ones are only creating negative things about the writers like the DF article.
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ManaByte
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Why is that a problem? My Xbox One X says Scorpio on the front of it.
The Mad Draklor
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That is insignificant if the negative press isn't even widespread to begin with nor has it tipped the scales in a substantial way.
CuriousToe
Member
I'm as disappointed as anyone else about the lack of news. But I'm not sure it's fair to blame Osiris. Whether he was right or not (the latter in this case), there was a ton of discussion about what either company might show at CES, starting well before Osiris started dropping hints.
CuriousToe
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Umm?
ethomaz
Banned
To be fair Osiris was right.
Sony did talk about PS5.
And he said specs only in February event.
+1 to his track record.
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I want a project scarlet edition to go with my project scorpio edition if your listening uncle Phil!
Nickolaidas
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Hence the 'fault', not fault.
Osiris was probably told that the ps5 would be talked about, which it was. It was just the same old info.
But the way he talked about it made us believe there would be new info. He's probably just as let down as we are.
But that doesn't change the fact that his recent posts were responsible for raising the expectations bar a lot higher than it normally should.
leo-j
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I’ll be honest Sony is getting some bad press right now and it’s not just the press but the gaming communities..... lots of dislikes.....
the future and they show a logo...... while Microsoft drops
he’ll blade 2 in engine footage,the console, the controller, and the new GPU WITH 8k and the spec estimates.
Sony def seems a lil ignorant to the above.
the future and they show a logo...... while Microsoft drops
he’ll blade 2 in engine footage,the console, the controller, and the new GPU WITH 8k and the spec estimates.
Sony def seems a lil ignorant to the above.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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It's been proven through studies that the little bit here-and-there over period of time stuff works better on social media then one-and-done big event reveals. It helps with engagement and maintaining long-term interest and mindshare. And technically speaking, Sony was doing the same thing up until December or so, remember those Wired articles?
You're looking at these companies like they're console warriors trying to win bragging rights over everything else. These are businesses; they know the difference between good publicity and bad publicity, and answer to investors and Wall Street before anyone else. They aren't going to play a game of withholding potentially beneficial information like this is poker. Not with as much money on the line as these guys have.
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leo-j
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there’s a ps5 event ? When was this announced.
ethomaz
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Well let’s wait and see if I’m right or not.
February event will tell us.
Not announced yet.
Of course it will have a PS5 event before E3.
Even at CES the SIE boss said they will talk a lot about PS5 in following months.
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
That’s just it. They didn’t go up there to talk PlayStation 5. They went up to say, we’ve had a successful generation with a lot of content and users. They went on to say things we knew because Cerny said them before, or they were announced. This was strategic to say nothing new. A brief nod for what’s to come and move on to CES appropriate topics.
MS didn’t need to be there because they weren’t introducing anything CES related. Sony on the other hand, does. Lots of things. It’s not like Sony will use the PlayStation Meeting or E3 to sell what they try to sell at CES.
This is why AMD didn’t say much about the consoles. It isn’t why they are there either.
Mass Shift
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That wasn't hard. You could have guessed that. You didn't need Osiris to do that.
ethomaz
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That didn’t change nothing of what I said.
He shared what he knows and it happened.
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The Mad Draklor
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Rumors of the PS5 not having raytracing first came up on December 27, but it wasn't until 1.5 weeks later that this rumor was ultimately debunked. And the way hardware raytracing was announced was more "Here it is. Moving on" and less so in response to something.
So why would Sony wait that long, and not make sure to tell everyone that the rumor was completely false and that they should calm down? Could it be that much of negative reactions were limited to everyday internet users and not so much from the folks of the business sphere?
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