NFL union to players: Turn up the heat and call in all those IOUs
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Ice cold. What'd he do to provoke that burn?Narag said:
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KO Traveling Hobo said:
It was cold as ice but doesn't matter, Pats lost to the Jets that very week. :jakncoke
firehawk12
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I don't really care about sports strikes, but I find it ridiculous that the players don't have guaranteed contracts. Who was the union president who agreed to that farce?
Angry Grimace
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Here's the problem. The players don't really have all that much bargaining power because the TV contract is guaranteed, except the players don't have to actually pay the players if they don't play.
GraveRobberX
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If you have HBO you should watch Real Sports with Bryant Gumble that is airing this month (repeats)
It has on how NFL players lose all their money, I mean they showed a Lions player earn 25mil+ and is now on Bankruptcy with 11 children (7+ adopted, I think)
Or another NFL player who is living of disability, get 60k, but 30k is child support.
(Dude lives in shelters, car, etc.)
Crazy stuff man
1 thing they need to fix in the CBA for NFL is these stupid fucking rookies earning ridiculous amounts of money
They haven't earned shit. It's a vicious circle that almost always has the same result.
Rookies come out of colleges, not well off due to NCAA (another atrocious organization), so either they were paid off through underhand deals or their boys had his back financially. Go at least < 4th round, you are getting paid. Thing is, now you owe all those who helped you out, but now with interest.
It's stupid #1 overall gets close 30+mil guaranteed (+ stupid Signing Bonuses)
NFL should take the NBA approach, the only catch, money that was all over the place gets consolidated and guaranteed, and the wage scale is equal (signing bonus is the extra incentive)
NFL Draft:
#1 Gets 50mil
#2 Gets 35mil
#3 Gets 30mil
#4 Gets 27mil
#5 Gets 25mil
Hopefully my way of economic thinking, something along these lines
#1 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 10-20mil, up to team)
#2 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 10-15mil, up to team)
#3 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 7-10mil, up to team)
#4 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 5-7mil, up to team)
#5 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 3-5mil, up to team)
etc.
Money saved goes to those that have put in there time
You know players playing now are worrying about themselves, not what they agree on now, and how it will affect future players
If there's a lockout on both NBA & NFL, Good Lord ESPN will be hilarious to watch.
It has on how NFL players lose all their money, I mean they showed a Lions player earn 25mil+ and is now on Bankruptcy with 11 children (7+ adopted, I think)
Or another NFL player who is living of disability, get 60k, but 30k is child support.
(Dude lives in shelters, car, etc.)
Crazy stuff man
1 thing they need to fix in the CBA for NFL is these stupid fucking rookies earning ridiculous amounts of money
They haven't earned shit. It's a vicious circle that almost always has the same result.
Rookies come out of colleges, not well off due to NCAA (another atrocious organization), so either they were paid off through underhand deals or their boys had his back financially. Go at least < 4th round, you are getting paid. Thing is, now you owe all those who helped you out, but now with interest.
It's stupid #1 overall gets close 30+mil guaranteed (+ stupid Signing Bonuses)
NFL should take the NBA approach, the only catch, money that was all over the place gets consolidated and guaranteed, and the wage scale is equal (signing bonus is the extra incentive)
NFL Draft:
#1 Gets 50mil
#2 Gets 35mil
#3 Gets 30mil
#4 Gets 27mil
#5 Gets 25mil
Hopefully my way of economic thinking, something along these lines
#1 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 10-20mil, up to team)
#2 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 10-15mil, up to team)
#3 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 7-10mil, up to team)
#4 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 5-7mil, up to team)
#5 Gets 3-5mil (Signing Bonus 3-5mil, up to team)
etc.
Money saved goes to those that have put in there time
You know players playing now are worrying about themselves, not what they agree on now, and how it will affect future players
If there's a lockout on both NBA & NFL, Good Lord ESPN will be hilarious to watch.
CygnusXS said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_yq4L3M_I
American Football is the low class watching the classless.
WanderingWind
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Gallbaro said:
What does that make wasting hours posting on a message board?
mckmas8808
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So what do you think of the owners? Wouldn't they be fucked too?Ninja Scooter said:
WanderingWind
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I'm sure something prevents the owners from just getting scabs, right?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Narag said:
jakncoke said:
Thanks!
I stand corrected. Travis Henry has at least 11 kids by 10 women lolz
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/12/after-birth-of-twins-travis-henry-now-has-11-kids-by-10-women/
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/12/after-birth-of-twins-travis-henry-now-has-11-kids-by-10-women/
Emerson
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I would really like to see a year without the NFL. I don't dislike it, but I think it would be very interesting. However, I don't think there's any way it will actually happen. When the serious realization sets in, something will happen. America couldn't handle losing its football for a year.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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jakncoke said:
Damn!
mckmas8808
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Even with scabs next year I promised myself I will not watch that bullshit.WanderingWind said:
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mckmas8808 said:
I've heard that the owners already have received their guaranteed teevee money, so they can wait it out as long as they need to.
Listening to the players and the union leaders... man, some of these guys just don't realize that fans do not care about how *hard* it is for these guys to earn 6 figures for an average of 3 seasons.
WanderingWind
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mckmas8808 said:
Hey, it may be the only chance the Buffalo Bills have of winning the Super Bowl in my lifetime.
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loosus said:
- Contract Guarantees
- Rookie Wage Scale
- 18 Game Schedule
- Player Safety
- Health Benefits
GraveRobberX
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Simply put:
Owners: Play More Games (18, rather than 16), Make Less Money, adding only 2 new players to roster (so from 53 to 55), Rookie pay-scale, and those extra revenue streams through it be luxury boxes, vending/food, etc. = Owners Only
tl;dr - PLAY MORE!, Make LESS!
Players: Season as is, Concern for Injuries piling up, Guarantees in contracts, More money for players, add 5+ men to roster, meaning from 53 to 58, not in favor of Rookie pay-scale, but its being used as a bargaining chip (give and take device, owners get it, but have to give players something good in return)
tl:dr - Play Same, More Guarantees, & Health Benefits
Owners: Play More Games (18, rather than 16), Make Less Money, adding only 2 new players to roster (so from 53 to 55), Rookie pay-scale, and those extra revenue streams through it be luxury boxes, vending/food, etc. = Owners Only
tl;dr - PLAY MORE!, Make LESS!
Players: Season as is, Concern for Injuries piling up, Guarantees in contracts, More money for players, add 5+ men to roster, meaning from 53 to 58, not in favor of Rookie pay-scale, but its being used as a bargaining chip (give and take device, owners get it, but have to give players something good in return)
tl:dr - Play Same, More Guarantees, & Health Benefits
Commodore_Perry
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What the players are asking for doesn't sound very unreasonable. I saw someone mention a Sports with Bryant Gumble earlier. That sounds pretty spot-on.
I saw a documentary a few years ago about how there are hundreds of retired players that are totally disabled and completely broke. Most linemen have serious brain trauma by the time they retire, even after only 3-4 years.
I'm pretty sure the new helmet-to-helmet rules are a response to mounting pressure from retired players who want/need health coverage. Many of these guys are legally retarded because of their former career and are now left to fend for themselves because the NFL gives them the big Fuck You after they retire/are cut.
I saw a documentary a few years ago about how there are hundreds of retired players that are totally disabled and completely broke. Most linemen have serious brain trauma by the time they retire, even after only 3-4 years.
I'm pretty sure the new helmet-to-helmet rules are a response to mounting pressure from retired players who want/need health coverage. Many of these guys are legally retarded because of their former career and are now left to fend for themselves because the NFL gives them the big Fuck You after they retire/are cut.
How I think it is going to go:
Owners get:
Rookie pay scale(I think even veteran players think rookie pay is total bullshit)
Extended season
Non-Guaranteed contracts
Players Get:
5 extra roster players
Keep the money or make a little more (other then rookies)
Sightly better health insurance
Owners are going to win but the players will get some small victories.
Owners get:
Rookie pay scale(I think even veteran players think rookie pay is total bullshit)
Extended season
Non-Guaranteed contracts
Players Get:
5 extra roster players
Keep the money or make a little more (other then rookies)
Sightly better health insurance
Owners are going to win but the players will get some small victories.
Dude Abides
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Brettison said:
Another giveback the owners want is to decrease the players' share of the revenue pool.
BobTheFork
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Forget that extended season crap, it was never get past the players. There isn't a single one of them that wants it (I don't either) and it's not a point they can be threated and financially choked into excepting.
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