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Nintendo Unveils Features for DS

well ingame voicechat would have been nice, but because of the ds-network system that doesnt use massiv servers for connection, i cant see how the ds could handle game data an voice data at the same time.

NTL i like the new features, go Nintedo FTW
 
Aurora said:
I don't. :(
Too easy to mess up, especially since I have a British accent.

Great news about Voice Chat though!

"Pikachu! I choose you!"

"Are you sure you want to delete everyone on your friends list?"
 
I don't think Nintendo is not offering voice chat in game to "protect" children. The DS simply cannot handle it in game. It doesn't sound like it's going to be amazing, but it'll be fun. I just pray the game also has an advanced lobby setup.

I'm very paranoid about walking into stores carrying products that they sell, so the downloads could be a problem for me. I'm sure Gamestop will be real cool about it, but Best Buy could be a problem.
 
PhoenixDark said:
I don't think Nintendo is not offering voice chat in game to "protect" children. The DS simply cannot handle it in game. It doesn't sound like it's going to be amazing, but it'll be fun. I just pray the game also has an advanced lobby setup.

I'm very paranoid about walking into stores carrying products that they sell, so the downloads could be a problem for me. I'm sure Gamestop will be real cool about it, but Best Buy could be a problem.


If it's a problem for Best Buy, then they shouldn't be offering the downloadable kiosk service in the first place. Their problem, not yours :)
 
Sapienshomo said:
i thought they were handing them out on DS carts?

How big is the DS' internal ram for this kind of thing? I doubt the trailers would be even chosen by most people going to one of these kiosks. Even if they did pull it off, it would be quickly abandoned.

Lets stop trying to pimp the DS as a multimedia monster, Nintendo. it plays games, well, damnit.

Edit: it is a 2 MB trailer? So, how was the quality and how long was it? At 2 MBs, I have to wonder, even with the best compression.
Press were given carts with the trailor at the Nintendo press conference, but it was also downloadable at one of the kiosks on the floor - and it looked really good. Anyone who has watched the opening sequence to Meteos has to admit that video quality is good.

Unison said:
I wonder how sensitive the DS mic is. It will be interesting to see how good this turns out.
The mic works rather well, from the 'blowing' in Mario Kart and Warioware, to the recording in Electroplankton. I haven't tested it extensively, but you can get a fair amount of background noise during the records, so it's sensitive enough.

PhoenixDark said:
I don't think Nintendo is not offering voice chat in game to "protect" children. The DS simply cannot handle it in game.
I'm not entirely sure about this. The DS does have two processors - it may just be a) a development decision or b) getting up to speed with voice chat.
 
truffleshuffle83 said:
no voice chat in game, doesnt that defeat the purpose of voicechat??? other than that, good news i guess even though it was already promised when the unit launched

i guess halfassing an online service is awesome now though :lol

Actually, I absolutely can't stand in-game voice chat. The times it's been at all productive are far outweighed by the times it's been annoying, in my own experience.

Still, having a lobby and a chat feature are welcome news, as previously playing with strangers wasn't much different than playing against realy realistic AI.

Of course, the fact voicechat isn't in-game is a technical limitation of the DS. Still, I don't mind. Metroid wouldn't be Metroid with a lot of communication everywhere. The atmosphere would be completely gone.

Only thing I really hope they fix in MP:H are the terrible non-Samus HUDs. They're horrible.
 
Juice said:
Actually, I absolutely can't stand in-game voice chat. The times it's been at all productive are far outweighed by the times it's been annoying, in my own experience.

Still, having a lobby and a chat feature are welcome news, as previously playing with strangers wasn't much different than playing against realy realistic AI.

Of course, the fact voicechat isn't in-game is a technical limitation of the DS. Still, I don't mind. Metroid wouldn't be Metroid with a lot of communication everywhere. The atmosphere would be completely gone.

Only thing I really hope they fix in MP:H are the terrible non-Samus HUDs. They're horrible.

I don't think the voice chat is open to strangers, only those on your friends list.
 
The point of having the demos only available at the kiosks is to generate traffic to those stores. If you're there, and you enjoy the demo, you can purchase the game. This isn't a revolutionary feature - it's an evolution of the existing demo kiosk concept.

The advantages are 1. you can actually play the game rather than mess with the scratched unit that's been butchered to death, 2. many more people can try the game, rather than waiting in line, and 3. the experience is improved in that you don't have to deal with being tied down to a kiosk (bad lighting, can't hear too well, etc.).
 
crisdecuba said:
The point of having the demos only available at the kiosks is to generate traffic to those stores. If you're there, and you enjoy the demo, you can purchase the game. This isn't a revolutionary feature - it's an evolution of the existing demo kiosk concept.

The advantages are 1. you can actually play the game rather than mess with the scratched unit that's been butchered to death, 2. many more people can try the game, rather than waiting in line, and 3. the experience is improved in that you don't have to deal with being tied down to a kiosk (bad lighting, can't hear too well, etc.).
The best advantage is that you can close the console t enter sleep mode and play the demo at home.
 
"The best advantage is that you can close the console t enter sleep mode and play the demo at home."

yep i agree...

hey wouldn't it also be possible for nintendo to distribute demos through the wi-fi connection service? that would be the best.. although maybe they wouldn't want to waste all that bandwidth..
 
metropolis said:
"The best advantage is that you can close the console t enter sleep mode and play the demo at home."

yep i agree...

hey wouldn't it also be possible for nintendo to distribute demos through the wi-fi connection service? that would be the best.. although maybe they wouldn't want to waste all that bandwidth..
Time ago I read you could download demos to the Revolution and send the over to the DS. Not sure if you could actually make this happen without the Revolution/PC/thing to store them.
 
metropolis said:
hey wouldn't it also be possible for nintendo to distribute demos through the wi-fi connection service? that would be the best.. although maybe they wouldn't want to waste all that bandwidth..
Revolution feature. :)
 
Taker666 said:
I don't think the voice chat is open to strangers, only those on your friends list.

Yeah, didn't RTFA on that.

That just makes it even more confusing how it'll be implemented. Will online games have to be all-friends or all-strangers, then?

WFC's obsession with protecting children is definitely valiant, but it's really inconvenient for the way they're implementing the features.
 
Juice said:
Yeah, didn't RTFA on that.

That just makes it even more confusing how it'll be implemented. Will online games have to be all-friends or all-strangers, then?

WFC's obsession with protecting children is definitely valiant, but it's really inconvenient for the way they're implementing the features.
That's the way it is now, you don't play against strangers when you're in Friends mode.
 
Juice said:
Yeah, didn't RTFA on that.

That just makes it even more confusing how it'll be implemented. Will online games have to be all-friends or all-strangers, then?

WFC's obsession with protecting children is definitely valiant, but it's really inconvenient for the way they're implementing the features.

Well considering there is no chat "in game" maybe it can be friends and strangers.

I certainly hope it won't be like animal crossing where you have to have a friends code to play with other people.
 
PhoenixDark said:
I'm very paranoid about walking into stores carrying products that they sell, so the downloads could be a problem for me. I'm sure Gamestop will be real cool about it, but Best Buy could be a problem.

If the employees bug you about it, turn on the system and show them that your name is registered in the firmware. Or start up whatever game is plugged in and show them your name on the save file, etc. Or just put a static cling screen cleaning pad on the system or anything else that would show that it clearly belongs to someone and didn't just jump out of the package.
 
metropolis said:
hey wouldn't it also be possible for nintendo to distribute demos through the wi-fi connection service? that would be the best.. although maybe they wouldn't want to waste all that bandwidth..

Not at the moment. Because the Demos (and Singlecard Multiplayergames) are transferred via the local WLAN (different technology that WiFi signal) and therefore you need to download it from a station nearby. Could be a Demostation, from your PC via a special WLAN card or the Revolution.
 
Calidor said:
boy i wish those downloadable demos works on my home wifi network :/
Unless you've got a Nintendo DS kiosk at home and get visited by a Nintendo rep, that doesn't really make a difference. If you DO, well, you'll be playing them. If you DON'T, you could already be trying out previously captured demos on your home network, and soon enough people will have captured these new ones too.
 
I wonder if they will release some sort of simple VoIP phone like that Wario talk thing posted earlier. It'd be nice for people who are always in wifi range
 
i think the wi-fi service will slowly improve over time. more features, better implementation, etc. voice chat is a nice start.
 
Voice chat...but not in games?

Downloadable demos...that only persist while the system remains on?

I can't believe anyone is actually excited about those features.
 
-jinx- said:
Voice chat...but not in games?

Downloadable demos...that only persist while the system remains on?

I can't believe anyone is actually excited about those features.
... you tell me how to preserve data in RAM even when a system's power is turned off.
 
GaimeGuy said:
... you tell me how to preserve data in RAM even when a system's power is turned off.
Nintendo should have traveled to the future and picked up some cheap efficient non-volatile RAM. Obviously.

Seriously though, while these features aren't anything amazing, it's definitely a step in the right direction. I hope to see many more such steps from Nintendo in the next couple of years.
 
Tumalu said:
Nintendo should have traveled to the future and picked up some cheap efficient non-volatile RAM. Obviously.

Seriously though, while these features aren't anything amazing, it's definitely a step in the right direction. I hope to see many more such steps from Nintendo in the next couple of years.
Even though a lot of people are upset with the limited features of NWC, I'm pretty certain that most of the current limitations are due to the limitations of the DS hardware and the fact that NWC was barely in the design stages when they finished the DS design back in 2004.

I would expect a MUCH more polished and fully-featured version of NWC on the Revolution.
 
Fantastic news. Pre-game chatting for multiplayer setups, post-game chatting for the inevitable trash talking.

Downloadable demos. Fucking finally.
 
It's about time they got voice chat working. Too bad Mario Kart was released before they figured this out. :|
 
-jinx- said:
Voice chat...but not in games?

Downloadable demos...that only persist while the system remains on?

I can't believe anyone is actually excited about those features.

1)Can you take home those demos that you play at EBgames in the kiosk units? NO.

2)called sleep mode.

3)your called spoiled.

4) Stop crying.(seriously you that bored that you complain about videogames on the internet?) NICE
 
This does bode well for a bit more robust Revolution WiFi service too.

I knew future games would not be as limited as Mario Kart DS/Animal Crossing were. They're just getting their feet wet.

In the future if they do apply the game download service to the DS in addition to Revolution ... that will probably require a SD Card/adaptor (ala Play-Yan) ... so I suppose in the future you'll be able to save demos onto that.

Or when Rev comes out this fall, you'll just be able to download DS demos from your Revolution system onto your DS without having to go to the store. So that's kinda problem solved on that issue.
 
OMG VOICE CHAT!

Thank god Nintendo pulled their head out of their ass. I am so happy I could cry...

But I would have rather seen something implemented from that patent, the voice to text one.

And dammit pictochat needs to be an option too.
 
I don't think they wanted start Voice Chat on Mario Kart or Animal Crossing because both of those are kid-friendly games.

The T-rated Metroid Prime Hunters would make more so sense to start something like that with.
 
Im just worried this is all we wil get out of nintendo until March now :(

God damn
 
It's promising for Revolution. The Wi Fi Connection is...what, 3 months old? It's making small steps, rather than trying too much at once.
 
I wish I could talk to everyone, not just people on my friends list. I can't wait to hear the same little kids who snaked me in MKDS start screaming "I OWN YOU, BITCH!!!" in their high-pitched voices.
 
VOOK said:
Im just worried this is all we wil get out of nintendo until March now :(

God damn
yeah, i think that's it until gdc. i expect iwata will have some good stuff to show (new zelda trailer please :) )

soundwave05 said:
This does bode well for a bit more robust Revolution WiFi service too.

I knew future games would not be as limited as Mario Kart DS/Animal Crossing were. They're just getting their feet wet.

In the future if they do apply the game download service to the DS in addition to Revolution ... that will probably require a SD Card/adaptor (ala Play-Yan) ... so I suppose in the future you'll be able to save demos onto that.

Or when Rev comes out this fall, you'll just be able to download DS demos from your Revolution system onto your DS without having to go to the store. So that's kinda problem solved on that issue.
i agree. i think there will be a comprehensive wi-fi service on revolution (and ds in the future) and rev-ds interactivity could be great, especially for game demos.
 
Sho Nuff said:
I wish I could talk to everyone, not just people on my friends list. I can't wait to hear the same little kids who snaked me in MKDS start screaming "I OWN YOU, BITCH!!!" in their high-pitched voices.

Yeah, but those kids do own us. I even tried snaking one round vs some dude named Penishead, but i ended up giving up because my fingers cramped. :(
 
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