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NYT now has the email to Donald Trump Jr. offering Russian aid to "incriminate"

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TangoAlphaLima

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Shard said:
https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/884837027916763137
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hawk2025

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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Your ridiculous speculation aside --


Are you saying that digging into collusion with a foreign government is NOT the "mature adult" thing to do?
 
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Xe4

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Sweeney Tom said:
Steve Peoples ✔ @sppeoples
Bernie Sanders tells me re: Don Jr emails: ”These are very, very, very serious allegations" but ”there should not be a rush to judgment"

fuck this guy and his stans
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It's a pretty rare occasion when I agree with Sanders 100%, but this is one of them. People should be careful not to jump to conclusions. To take down a president as a result of an investigation, every single link must be solid. Right now we have an evidence that Trump Jr. colluded with the Russians, but that does not necessarily equate to evidence Trump did.

What is needed is that evidence, and people should not be jumping wholly to any sort of Trump-Russia collusion until then.

MyleMan1010 said:
I mean, that's what the wikileaks stuff revealed...
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Yeah, you're gonna have to fucking source that one, because pretty much every intelligence agency has said that Russia helped Trump explicitly because they HATED Clinton. Yes, I can source that if you'd like.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava said:
On a different note, the whole obstruction of justice case got a lot stronger if Kushner or Trump Sr wanted to stop Comey from discovering this very thing.
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Yeah, you have to remember that they all sat on this for a year. They know how incriminating it is.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server.
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Right, so they had THIS INFORMATION and made a deal to help Trump (who was floundering the entire campaign) but chose to release dumb shit like Podesta's risotto recipe instead.

You are the Sherlock of our time.
 
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Nafai1123

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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Putin fucking hates Clinton. This is a completely ridiculous theory.
 
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epmode

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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all.
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Are we posting fan fiction now?
 
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MyleMan1010

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hawk2025 said:
Your ridiculous speculation aside --


Are you saying that digging into collusion with a foreign government is NOT the "mature adult" thing to do?
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Of course it is, I'm just trying to make sense of all of this. That sentence in the email regarding, "Clinton working with the Russians" is the only thing that leads me to believe she had anything to do with things in the first place.

I've wanted Trump gone as along as anyone here.
 
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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Both sides amirite
 
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Horns

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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Except she never cheated in the primaries or fixes polls.
 
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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Man this is a weird conclusion. Don't you think that if such thing was true (in itself an hilariously ridiculous possibility) Trump camp or Russia through Wikileaks would have released the info back then? Wouldn't be under the glorious presidency of Dear Leader Bernie by now?
 
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RPGCrazied said:
What more can there be? Maybe that Trump knew about the meeting? Its kinda hard to believe Trump doesn't know about this, when he son does. Of course he would have told him about the meeting.
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Trump knows everything about this. Rhona made sure of it.

Remember Madoff? Guess who one of the first people who went to prison for him was...
 
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Eusis

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johnsmith said:
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... that actually is everyone following this news, isn't it? Hell, it could be inverted, it's probably about to be one of the worst days of Donald Jr's life but for us and especially the news media it was just another Tuesday for this administration.
 
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Mollymauk

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MAB128 said:
The problem is that the media and the left has been painting him as the devil for like 2 years. It's been constant. The world was supposed to end on inauguration day if they were right.

6 months later and the world hasn't ended. We're still here. And the left and the media are still at it.

To put it simply, it's the modern version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. So yeah, these people are done and will not believe you unless something catastrophic happens.
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Why you rooskies never got avatars?
 
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Shauni

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I don't even know why we need more to the obstruction of Justice case. Trump admitted to it on live TV. Shit is like an episode of Columbo where you see the crime and killer first and see them work through how to get there lol
 
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MyleMan1010 said:
I would bet that Russia reached out to her camp first because they had evidence she was cheating in the primary and fixing the polls by hacking her private server. Russia probably wanted to talk sanctions in exchange for keeping quiet. Hillary didn't bite because she thought the election was wrapped up, with Trump grabbing genitals and all. Once those talks stalled, Russia went to Trump as a "plan B."

This is what makes the most sense to me. The IC has been investigating all of this for over a year. I'm almost positive Russia was playing both sides with Team Trump being the ones taking the bait. Of course this looks bad all around, because of the implications that our politics can be manipulated by outsiders, so it was best to keep this quiet. But with politicians and news groups being the mature adults they are, leaks and further digging was inevitable.
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Hard to tell if you're just trying an angle or are actually simple.
 
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