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Official April NBA Thread - Playoffs coming sooooooon!
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LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
xnipx said:Congrats to my Wiz for clinching the playoffs. Whoever we see in the first round better be prepared for our terrible threesome.....
Unfortunately ESPN took that term a little too seriously when they put this picture up... :lol
:lol Holy gay signal batman!
BatiGOOOOOOL
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DMczaf said:
It's not like I expected the team to be playing great in Tim's return, after missing 12 games. Anyway, it's just a three point game heading into the 4th. TD and Manu will take care of business, as usual. *crosses fingers*
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Beaten again by Okur on the last play. What does this guy has against the Spurs? :lol 25 points and 16 rebounds. TP screwed us from the FT line though.
Oh well, #1 seed would be nice, but the Spurs don't need it to win. There's much more encouraging news out of this game.
Tim Duncan
20 minutes
17 points
6-7 shooting
7 rebounds
1 block
Very nice.
Oh well, #1 seed would be nice, but the Spurs don't need it to win. There's much more encouraging news out of this game.
Tim Duncan
20 minutes
17 points
6-7 shooting
7 rebounds
1 block
Very nice.
This game in Seattle is a hard watch because of the dumb ass refs. Who the fuck told these guys to blow their whistle until they just can't blow no more? I hate Joey Crawford. It's not really biased officiating in this game as much as it is OVERofficiating. These guys are blowing fouls for some of the dumbest fouls ever. Hell, guys on both teams are looking pissed as hell at the way this game is being officiated. Why doesn't the league do something about these refs? They're making games unwatchable.
Ninja Scooter
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Jason Kidd to LA next season? Looks like Phil's return is pretty much set now too. Man i hope now that Shaq isn't here he gets rid of his hardon for slow, unathletic, one dimensional players.
Optimistic
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I've always been a basketball fan but as I'm not in America and don't have foxtel I haven't been able to watch games...until I discovered other methods. But uh, my question is, why are the umpires so bad? I've never seen such atrocious umpiring at this level in any other sport. Hell, the umpiring in the social league I play in is fucking better. What gives?
And why are they all fat?
And why are they all fat?
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
The Chosen One
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Are there any Lebron Haters here like me who really hope Cleveland falls out of the 7th/8th playoff spot?
It'll be sweet justice if for the second year straight Dwayne Wade and Carmelo Anthony are both in the playoffs while Lebron James is at home watching the games on TNT.
It'll be sweet justice if for the second year straight Dwayne Wade and Carmelo Anthony are both in the playoffs while Lebron James is at home watching the games on TNT.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Duke graduates should not be allowed to play in the NBA:
Bobby Hurley: Horrible car accident, was never the same after.
Grant Hill: Ankle injuries have totally fucked up his career.
Jason Williams: Retard rides a motorcycle without a helmet, may not play again!
Luol Deng: Torn wrist ligament, will miss 3-6 months
Am i missing anyone else?
Bobby Hurley: Horrible car accident, was never the same after.
Grant Hill: Ankle injuries have totally fucked up his career.
Jason Williams: Retard rides a motorcycle without a helmet, may not play again!
Luol Deng: Torn wrist ligament, will miss 3-6 months
Am i missing anyone else?
I don't find any offense with Lebron James himself. It's just how the media hugs his nuts and gives him every freaking award and excuse in the book for his team's play that almost wants me to see him fail this year.
When the team is doing good, it's 100% Lebron. Look at how amazing this guy is playing! He makes everybody better! He is MVP material!
When his team is doing bad, it's, "OMG, these teammates suck! The coaches suck! These guys refuse to play with Lebron!"
Lebron is a very good player no doubt, but he hasn't proven anything as of right now except that he can put up every good numbers. People saying he's one of the best players in the league and putting him over guys who have been in the league proving things year in and year out is a bit offensive to me. Saying he's the new Mike Jordan when he's barely in the league is offensive to me. But it really isn't James's fault. It's the media that's so firmly latched onto his nuts that is almost making me want to see James fail, so that the miracle child image they built up will be torn down. I want to see a Lebron James where not everything is given in terms of recognition, but has to be proven. Ever since he's come into the league, he's been NBA's newest golden child. That's pissing lots of people off.
Also, a reason his teammates aren't doing so hot is probably because of all the media attention he gets. That may be why Michael Redd doesn't want to play with Lebron. He doesn't want to be known as the golden boy's sidekick. It's just speculation, but if you were a basketball player at the highest level, you'd have ego... And it would be annoying as hell that no matter how good you play, you'll never get any real credit for the teams's success? Look at sportscenter. When the cavs play, its 100 James highlights, while they totally ignore the other team members. "Drew Gooden put up 30 points tonight, but let's look at Lebron lay the ball in the rim! OMG Lebron James does a sweet pass to Ilgauskas! Lebron James SLAMS it home! etc. etc."
Finally, the way he got the rookie of the year pissed me off. Him and Melo had very comparable numbers, yet Melo made the playoffs in the West and James failed to make the playoffs in the East. I mean both of these guys are very talented, so why couldn't they split the rookie of the year award? "Lebron got the award because he lived up to the hype!" What kind of bullshit reasoning is that? If the media isn't jocking you before you come into the league, you can't get ROY? Another example is the Olympic squad. Lebron James was quickly invited to participate, but Melo was the last one invited, only after one of the players said he wasn't going to show up. I think it was Rip Hamilton maybe.
Lebron is a great player and I have nothing against HIM, but I can't lie. I'd probably enjoy not seeing him make the playoffs so maybe the media can get off his nuts and stop trying to convince us that he's Jesus reincarnted on the basketball court. Lebron James's image and game is like a hot pop radio song. Interesting for a while, but absolutely, mindnumbingly agitating when it's forced into your head through endless repetition.
When the team is doing good, it's 100% Lebron. Look at how amazing this guy is playing! He makes everybody better! He is MVP material!
When his team is doing bad, it's, "OMG, these teammates suck! The coaches suck! These guys refuse to play with Lebron!"
Lebron is a very good player no doubt, but he hasn't proven anything as of right now except that he can put up every good numbers. People saying he's one of the best players in the league and putting him over guys who have been in the league proving things year in and year out is a bit offensive to me. Saying he's the new Mike Jordan when he's barely in the league is offensive to me. But it really isn't James's fault. It's the media that's so firmly latched onto his nuts that is almost making me want to see James fail, so that the miracle child image they built up will be torn down. I want to see a Lebron James where not everything is given in terms of recognition, but has to be proven. Ever since he's come into the league, he's been NBA's newest golden child. That's pissing lots of people off.
Also, a reason his teammates aren't doing so hot is probably because of all the media attention he gets. That may be why Michael Redd doesn't want to play with Lebron. He doesn't want to be known as the golden boy's sidekick. It's just speculation, but if you were a basketball player at the highest level, you'd have ego... And it would be annoying as hell that no matter how good you play, you'll never get any real credit for the teams's success? Look at sportscenter. When the cavs play, its 100 James highlights, while they totally ignore the other team members. "Drew Gooden put up 30 points tonight, but let's look at Lebron lay the ball in the rim! OMG Lebron James does a sweet pass to Ilgauskas! Lebron James SLAMS it home! etc. etc."
Finally, the way he got the rookie of the year pissed me off. Him and Melo had very comparable numbers, yet Melo made the playoffs in the West and James failed to make the playoffs in the East. I mean both of these guys are very talented, so why couldn't they split the rookie of the year award? "Lebron got the award because he lived up to the hype!" What kind of bullshit reasoning is that? If the media isn't jocking you before you come into the league, you can't get ROY? Another example is the Olympic squad. Lebron James was quickly invited to participate, but Melo was the last one invited, only after one of the players said he wasn't going to show up. I think it was Rip Hamilton maybe.
Lebron is a great player and I have nothing against HIM, but I can't lie. I'd probably enjoy not seeing him make the playoffs so maybe the media can get off his nuts and stop trying to convince us that he's Jesus reincarnted on the basketball court. Lebron James's image and game is like a hot pop radio song. Interesting for a while, but absolutely, mindnumbingly agitating when it's forced into your head through endless repetition.
The Chosen One
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Kevm, I agree 100% with EVERYTHING you said.
I don't have too much against Lebron James personally (though his laisser faire attitude during All-Star weekend did annoy me). It's how the media is firmly attached to his nuts regardless of what he does that drives me completely crazy. Therefore, I admit that I'm a Lebron Hater.
When I watch his games, when James does a slightly above average bounce pass, the commentators sing his praises for 5 minutes, (which will end up being picked up by SportsCenter later that night). Nevermind the 360 reverse facial his teammate did to complete the play.
I can understand David Stern wanting to pump him up, but I just don't understand the media in every corner obsession with hyping this kid night in and night out. Yes, he's putting up good numbers, but he's not the only rookie/sophomore to do this who has gotten as much play time and shot attempts as him.
In fact, I'd say Dwayne Wade's numbers are more impressive than Jame's considering Dwayne has to share shot attempts with other good/great players such as Shaq, Eddie Jones, and others. He also plays less minutes than James. It could also be said that Dwayne Wade does a better job of getting his teammates in involved. It's one thing to do a few fancy passes a game, it's another thing to get your teammates involved to the point where they become an actual scoring threat. I think Dwayne does a better job of this.
Fortunately, Dwayne Wade is starting to get more media attention. Having Shaq come to town really helped him get exposure. But it just annoys me to no end that someone like Dwayne who is posting similar numbers to James and has a far better team record is playing second fiddle while James has already been crowned MJ's heir apparent by the media. It's definitely a slap in the face to players who have been doing it year in and year out for many seasons (ie. Kobe, Tmac, Iversion, and etc.). There's still a lot of unanswered questions about James before he comes close to being the next MJ. I wish the media would just step back and let the man prove himself first.
I don't have too much against Lebron James personally (though his laisser faire attitude during All-Star weekend did annoy me). It's how the media is firmly attached to his nuts regardless of what he does that drives me completely crazy. Therefore, I admit that I'm a Lebron Hater.
When I watch his games, when James does a slightly above average bounce pass, the commentators sing his praises for 5 minutes, (which will end up being picked up by SportsCenter later that night). Nevermind the 360 reverse facial his teammate did to complete the play.
I can understand David Stern wanting to pump him up, but I just don't understand the media in every corner obsession with hyping this kid night in and night out. Yes, he's putting up good numbers, but he's not the only rookie/sophomore to do this who has gotten as much play time and shot attempts as him.
In fact, I'd say Dwayne Wade's numbers are more impressive than Jame's considering Dwayne has to share shot attempts with other good/great players such as Shaq, Eddie Jones, and others. He also plays less minutes than James. It could also be said that Dwayne Wade does a better job of getting his teammates in involved. It's one thing to do a few fancy passes a game, it's another thing to get your teammates involved to the point where they become an actual scoring threat. I think Dwayne does a better job of this.
Fortunately, Dwayne Wade is starting to get more media attention. Having Shaq come to town really helped him get exposure. But it just annoys me to no end that someone like Dwayne who is posting similar numbers to James and has a far better team record is playing second fiddle while James has already been crowned MJ's heir apparent by the media. It's definitely a slap in the face to players who have been doing it year in and year out for many seasons (ie. Kobe, Tmac, Iversion, and etc.). There's still a lot of unanswered questions about James before he comes close to being the next MJ. I wish the media would just step back and let the man prove himself first.
The Chosen One
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Doc Holliday said:
You're missing Christian Laettner. After the two NCAA championships, everybody that he'd make a huge splash in the NBA. He had a couple of good seasons initially, but now he's a borderline journeyman. He never really got beyond "supporting role" player. Now he's only good for 5-6 points a game.
The Chosen One said:
To be fair to Bron, he IS the future of the sport. He's so young where some guys are just adjusting to the college game, much less dominating games and being an early-season MVP candidate. The kid is damn good, and though it pains me to say it, he's gonna be bigger than Wade in the long run. But hey, it's alright to hate. At least you're honest about it.
PEACE.Wade's first 40pt game, and he's cruisin. He's keeping us in this, although his FT shooting (and the team's in general) has been piss-poor all season. I figured we'd improve going into the playoffs, but it looks like that might end up being an achilles heel. We can't make FTs in the clutch with any consistency. I mean, why are we struggling against the Sixers? We had enough chances to put this game away. PEACE.
Cloudy said:Shaq with 9 turnovers and crucial missed FTs in the final minutes. Seems like the Heat were doing better when he was out of the game. Nash for MVP!!!!
Oh boy, am I gonna love it if Shaq wins the MVP and the Heat win the championship. Then TNT will post the Kobe "Gone Fishin'" pic and Konex will pull his hair out.
Yeah, Wade's definitely my favorite out of the rookies and I'm glad he's getting a lot more attention. And the great thing with Wade is that the media isn't slobbering all over the guy and people can basically make up their own minds. They've given him reasonable praise, and that's how I hope they keep it.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Nash has been a huge reason for the Suns success, but I'd never give the MVP to a player that is a complete liability on one side of the court. If it was like that, Ben Wallace would be a MVP candidate every year, based solely on his defensive prowess.
Shaq is this season's MVP.
Shaq is this season's MVP.
The Chosen One
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Cloudy said:If Bron and the Cavs miss the playoffs, the media will swing over to Wade's nuts. Will you start resenting him then?
Of course not!
Partially because Wade will have earned most of the attention he'd be getting. This will be the second year his team is in the playoffs. Whereas with James, it'd be two straight playoff absences. Admittedly though, Lebron has less to work with up in Cleveland.
But I'm pretty much against any excessive media hype toward any individual player sans Michael Jordan.
Is Nash really THAT much worse defensively than Charles Barkley was? Or Magic for that matter? I'm not saying that Nash is anywhere NEAR the player either of those guys were, and obviously when you put up the numbers they did, you're deserving of an MVP-- but if the only reason you wouldn't give him the MVP is because he's a defensive liability, then that's a bit wrong imo. I mean, it's not like whoever he's guarding goes off for 25/8 every night after all...
Oh please. What starting PGs play D in the league besides Jason Kidd and maybe Earl Watson? The Suns TEAM defense sucks and that's mainly because they don't even try to play D unless the game is close in the 4th. They have that much confidence in their offense.
Bron doesn't play a lick of D either and Shaq is STILL clueless on the pick and roll yet they've been MVP candidates all season. Hell, Bron would win it EASILY if his team had a better record...
BatiGOOOOOOL
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We're talking about a guy that doesn't sweat a drop on D. Comparing Lebron and Shaq to Nash, defensively, is ridiculous.
A MVP has to be a difference maker for his team in every aspect of the game, on and off the court. I could care less if the Suns gameplan is to run and score as much as possible, the guy is completelyuseless on the defensive end. At least players like Marion or Amare can say they do some work in D.
Nash isn't doing anything drastically different from what he had done in Dallas in the past. The Suns current squad just fits him better with all the athleticism and youth around him.
All of this IMO, before anyone wants to flame me.
A MVP has to be a difference maker for his team in every aspect of the game, on and off the court. I could care less if the Suns gameplan is to run and score as much as possible, the guy is completelyuseless on the defensive end. At least players like Marion or Amare can say they do some work in D.
Nash isn't doing anything drastically different from what he had done in Dallas in the past. The Suns current squad just fits him better with all the athleticism and youth around him.
All of this IMO, before anyone wants to flame me.
OK then, look at the players' former teams and how are they doing without them? Don't get me wrong, I love Nash and would be extremely happy for him to win the award. But he's not the MVP, Shaq is -- no question in my mind. Shaq is a more complete player offensively and defensively. Nash is definitely superior on offense, but lacks the defensive skills to make him a more complete player. Also, Nash can't "take over" a game quite like Shaq can.
And who's talking about 'Bron for MVP? Please, I put Dirk and even Wade higher than 'Bron.
And who's talking about 'Bron for MVP? Please, I put Dirk and even Wade higher than 'Bron.
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