Less then a week after the best race I've ever seen culminated at Suzuka, the F1 circus makes it's final stop of the season at the year old Shanghai circuit. Coverage of Friday's second practice is just about to start on Speed Channel. Also there's a new proposal for qualifying next year, which I'll post about later.
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Got a repeat of that practice session on now, with qualifying on right after.
Speaking of qualifying, this is the new proposal for next year...
Just sounds like overcomplicated gimmickery to me...just go back to the original format and be done with it.
There's also talk of getting the tire changing back, something that never should've left in the first place.
Speaking of qualifying, this is the new proposal for next year...
Just sounds like overcomplicated gimmickery to me...just go back to the original format and be done with it.
There's also talk of getting the tire changing back, something that never should've left in the first place.
Race coverage gets going on 1:30am EST. Here's the starting grid.
Chinese Grand Prix qualifying times
1. ALONSO Renault 1m34.080s
2. FISICHELLA Renault 1m34.401s
3. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m34.488s
4. BUTTON BAR 1m34.801s
5. MONTOYA McLaren 1m35.188s
6. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m35.301s
7. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m35.428s
8. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m35.610s
9. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m35.723s
10. WEBBER Williams 1m35.739s
11. MASSA Sauber 1m35.898s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.044s
13. PIZZONIA Williams 1m36.445s
14. KLIEN Red Bull 1m36.472s
15. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m36.707s
16. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m36.788s
17. SATO BAR 1m37.083s
18. ALBERS Minardi 1m39.105s
19. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m39.233s
20. DOORNBOS Minardi 1m39.460s
Should be a fascinating race...Renault appears to have gained some extra speed from the engines they got specifically for this race, but the McLaren's have run fast on heavy fuel all year and have probably done the same thing here. Montoya's time was damn good considering he was the second driver out. And Ferrari's looked pretty solid all weekend, relative to their pace for most of the year. Hopefully the Renaults and McLarens have good clean races to decide who wins the constructors crown.
Chinese Grand Prix qualifying times
1. ALONSO Renault 1m34.080s
2. FISICHELLA Renault 1m34.401s
3. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m34.488s
4. BUTTON BAR 1m34.801s
5. MONTOYA McLaren 1m35.188s
6. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m35.301s
7. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m35.428s
8. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m35.610s
9. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m35.723s
10. WEBBER Williams 1m35.739s
11. MASSA Sauber 1m35.898s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.044s
13. PIZZONIA Williams 1m36.445s
14. KLIEN Red Bull 1m36.472s
15. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m36.707s
16. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m36.788s
17. SATO BAR 1m37.083s
18. ALBERS Minardi 1m39.105s
19. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m39.233s
20. DOORNBOS Minardi 1m39.460s
Should be a fascinating race...Renault appears to have gained some extra speed from the engines they got specifically for this race, but the McLaren's have run fast on heavy fuel all year and have probably done the same thing here. Montoya's time was damn good considering he was the second driver out. And Ferrari's looked pretty solid all weekend, relative to their pace for most of the year. Hopefully the Renaults and McLarens have good clean races to decide who wins the constructors crown.
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Shit, I just woke up and missed the start. 
GO KIMI GO!!
Damn Montoya, it doesnt seem very likely for Macs to win the champioship...
GO KIMI GO!! Damn Montoya, it doesnt seem very likely for Macs to win the champioship...
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KIMI KIMI KIMI KIMI
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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I'm at work ...
someone please update
...someone please update
Alonso, Raikkonen, Ralf, Fisi, Klein, Massa, Webber, Button, Coulthard and Villeniuve are the top ten. Couple of safety cars fucked up whatever McLaren's pit strategy they had, and Montoya running over some debris that lead to the first safety car knocked him out of the race and basically handed the constructors title to Renault on a platter. Alonso was fast as fuck though...galloped out to huge leads at the start, as well as the restarts.
Bunch of other whacky stuff happened...Michael ran into someone else during the safety car period ending his race, and a Jordan lost control and got destroyed on the back straight. Pretty eventful race all told, though not nearly as dramatic as last week's classic.
Bunch of other whacky stuff happened...Michael ran into someone else during the safety car period ending his race, and a Jordan lost control and got destroyed on the back straight. Pretty eventful race all told, though not nearly as dramatic as last week's classic.
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:lol Alonso singing Queens 'We Are the Champions' on the car to pitwall radio after crossing the finish line. :lol
Hail Fernando
Hail Fernando
Bah, McLaren screwed their self with their qualifying strategy. Their pace in the race was controlled by Fisi, who was deliberately driving slowly to let Alonso run away and make a "safe" first stop. Had there been no safety car, they still would have lost.
Don't know why they always choose this conservative strategy in qualifying.
As for the race itself. Eventful it may be, but still awful all the same. Awful circuit design. That Herman Tilke(F1 circuit designer) is a joke. He fluked with Turkey, but all of his other circuits lead to awful races.
Don't know why they always choose this conservative strategy in qualifying.
As for the race itself. Eventful it may be, but still awful all the same. Awful circuit design. That Herman Tilke(F1 circuit designer) is a joke. He fluked with Turkey, but all of his other circuits lead to awful races.
goompapa said:
Probably because it worked. McLaren's all year were faster then everybody else with far bigger fuel loads, and as long as they could stay out longer then everyone else and stay in front after their pit stops, they were basically home and dry. I think they simply underestimated Renault's pace today, which was a lot faster then normal thanks to that new engine. Plus Kimi made a mistake on his qualifying lap that prevented him from being on the second row. That's really where they lost the race, safety car or otherwise...chances are he wouldn't have fallen behind Alonso nearly as much if he was ahead of Fisi.
Anyway, this could be F1's craziest off season in years...there's talk of at least two new B teams joining the grid (Honda and Mercedes), another outfit that Bernie talked about that could join them, the move from V10's to V8's, the driver carousel that appears to be affecting everyone but the top two teams, and making changes to qualifying for the 75th time in the last five years. You'd think Ferrari would be able to pick themselves back off the mat after this year's embarassment, but the new engine formula is kind of a wild card for everyone. Be interesting to see how things unfold.
I need to post a correction. Michael didn't run into anyone, or spin on his own on that safety car mishap. God just decided to personally smite him as a fitting end to easily the worst season of his career, as final compensation to the universal balance for the incredible wealth of good fortune he's had up until this point. There is no other explanation fo how shitty a run he has had this season. But he's getting it out of the way now, so look out next season. PEACE.
PEACE.:lol It's hilarious to hear people say that Michael is washed up, a year removed from owning the field like few indivduals in the history of sports. This year his car was shit, so he was medicore...that's all there is to it. If Ferrari gets back on pace with Renault and McLaren (provided those outfits don't drop off), you can expect to see some incredible racing between Michael, Fernando, Kimi and Juan. I think Michael could race at a high level for another three or four years...it's just a matter of if he'll want to or not.
And that's all I want to see...I want to see these driving studs going wheel to wheel, toe to toe, slugging it out for 30 laps or more. It's harder to do on most of today's tracks, but there's still enough good ones out there where we can get the sort of show that makes the drivers king.
Anyway, I finally finished downloading last week's Suzuka race...I literally teared up watching the Alonso pass on Schumacher on 130 R, and Kimi's pass on Fisi at 190mph into turn one. Lord willing I hope they're able to deliver this sort of display for another ten to fifteen years.
And that's all I want to see...I want to see these driving studs going wheel to wheel, toe to toe, slugging it out for 30 laps or more. It's harder to do on most of today's tracks, but there's still enough good ones out there where we can get the sort of show that makes the drivers king.
Anyway, I finally finished downloading last week's Suzuka race...I literally teared up watching the Alonso pass on Schumacher on 130 R, and Kimi's pass on Fisi at 190mph into turn one. Lord willing I hope they're able to deliver this sort of display for another ten to fifteen years.
Montoya is lucky he didn't get hurt when he ran over that drain cover. I can't believe it happened again. During the Aussie V8 supercar race at Shanghai, one of the drivers ran over a dislodged drain cover and sliced his car in half. It cut through his car and scratched his carbon fibre seat (http://www.v8x.com.au/cms/A_104588/article.html), if he had been any lower it would have got hurt bad. Montoya is sitting alot lower than a V8, if he ran a little wider... i wouldn't like to see the replay :\ As it is, he sliced his radiator which lead to his engine failure.
Montoya's accident lead to the safety car that made the race more interesting
Montoya's accident lead to the safety car that made the race more interesting
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LusDekkar said:Montoya is lucky he didn't get hurt when he ran over that drain cover. I can't believe it happened again. During the Aussie V8 supercar race at Shanghai, one of the drivers ran over a dislodged drain cover and sliced his car in half. It cut through his car and scratched his carbon fibre seat (http://www.v8x.com.au/cms/A_104588/article.html), if he had been any lower it would have got hurt bad. Montoya is sitting alot lower than a V8, if he ran a little wider... i wouldn't like to see the replay :\ As it is, he sliced his radiator which lead to his engine failure.
Montoya's accident lead to the safety car that made the race more interesting
Montoya would have been sliced in two, look at that damage to the v8. O_O
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